AA urges motorists not to pump own petrol
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AA urges motorists not to pump own petrol

2013-09-10 16:21

Cape Town - The strike by petrol attendants has made increasing number of motorists wonder why they cannot just fill up their petrol tanks themselves.

This would not be a good idea, according to the Automobile Association of South Africa (AA).

Although current reports claim that only a handful of filling stations have been negatively affected by the recent petrol pump attendant strike, the AA has issued a statement to urge the public to remain patient while the strike continues.

"There are specific laws that make filling your own tank at a petrol station illegal," the organisation said in a statement issued on Tuesday.

Section 2A(5)(b) of the Petroleum Products Act clearly forbids self-service by consumers of prescribed petroleum products on the premises of a licensed retailer.

"In addition, there are various health and safety matters to consider," the AA said.

"Petrol pump attendants have been trained on how to work with fuel, use the various types of pumps and to know the limits of individual makes of vehicles."

The organisation urged motorists, for their own safety and the safety of those around them, to leave the filling up of vehicles to be handled through the measures put in place by filling stations.

"The AA urges all consumers to think long-term regarding this strike in the event it drags on," it said.

"The best solution is to ensure that your tank is filled up on a regular basis. So even if your tank is half full, make sure to top up at every opportunity to avoid being stranded."

- Fin24

Comments
  • Paul Gibbings - 2013-09-10 16:30

    So is the AA saying that every person in Australia, UK, USA and the rest of the world has been trained as to how to fill their vehicles? Those countries are generally much more anal about health and safety than SA, yet everyone fills their own vehicles up... but ok, if you've never filled your vehicle, then ya rather don't

      Konstabel Koekemoer - 2013-09-10 16:51

      What a stupid comment by the AA. Will we now be arrested for filling our own tanks? Government should not protect jobs with ridiculous laws like this. It would be like government banning ATMs because bank tellers are loosing their jobs.

      Wayne Strydom - 2013-09-10 17:07

      Methinks its all about job preservation that this has an "act" for it...

      Troy Jennings - 2013-09-10 17:07

      Maybe they're just saying that SA's just aren't capable. What a lot of job protectionism bull.

      Michael Pietersen - 2013-09-10 18:14

      No no no, that's not what the AA are saying at all. What they are saying is that South Africans are actually cretins who are incapable of performing this task, and that we are inferior beings to our cousins in the UK, USA and Australia.....so in the opinion of the AA we clearly have neither the intellectual capacity nor the physical aptitude to fill a tank.... So, if this is the case, we should in fact not own cars at all...and yet our government rakes in billions in taxes related to the motor industry, and even more ludicrous...the AA owes it's existence to the motor industry which we as consumers keep alive and well....

      Paul Gibbings - 2013-09-11 08:00

      @ Frank - look at where the nossle rests, in 99% of all cases it is marked petrol or diesel.

      Feik Mc Heither - 2013-09-11 09:01

      Who listens to Alcoholics Anonymous. I prefer drinking in public.

      Visa Book - 2013-09-11 11:18

      Section 2A(5)(b) of the Petroleum Products Act DOES NOT "forbid self-service by consumers of prescribed petroleum products on the premises of a licensed retailer". The AA cannot even comprehend what they read!

      Richard Wraith - 2013-09-11 13:14

      @VISA Book read again... No person may make use of a business practice, method of trading, agreement, arrangement, scheme or understanding which is aimed at or would result in- (b) self-service by consumers of prescribed petroleum products on the premises of a licensed retailer. IE that's a negative for self-service.

      Visa Book - 2013-09-12 17:44

      Section 2A(5)(b) of the Petroleum Products applies to the "owner" of the business and not the person pumping the petrol. The law is silent regarding the actions of the customer.

  • Compos Mentis - 2013-09-10 16:30

    LMAO.... Must be a geographic thing then, because when I am in Europe I quite easily understand the way a fuel pump works... it is just in South Africa that I don't understand fuel pumps. "Petrol pump attendants have been trained on how to work with fuel, use the various types of pumps and to know the limits of individual makes of vehicles." LMAO will have to introduce the AA to some in my area who don't know how to open my cap.

  • BLUESILVER2012 - 2013-09-10 16:34

    This has nothing to do with safety and even the AA is grasping at straws by making these broad statements. By your account then, the WHOLE of Europe is untrained and should not fill their own cars???When we go abroad, who do you think fills our cars AA? The legislation was put in place to create jobs and this is a well known fact, nothing more, nothing less and this has been debated many times in the past, it'a sll about politics/votes.

  • Foodie Beeach - 2013-09-10 16:34

    have never ever read such crap in my whole life. If pumping your own fuel was dangerous there is no way the Poms would be allowed to do it as they live in the most stringent nanny state. The AA are losing their minds.

  • Indi Fusion - 2013-09-10 16:35

    AA makes it sound like you need a PHD to fill up petrol. i doubt the petrol attendants at the garages i go to know how much is my tank capacity. In countries where there fill there own tanks there is no course as i cant recall been thought how to fill a tank in Europe and as well in Canada. They just scared that if we start filling our own cars then attendant will no longer required. All of the sudden there is a law which forbids you to fill your own tank.

  • Wynand Smit - 2013-09-10 16:40

    What utter nonsense !! You have to be kidding. Anyone/ anything can fill a tank. If it is against the "law", so what!! This is Banana Land. Stupid. Get rid of pump attendants permanently. They do not add value. Parasites, just like parking attendants.

      Feik Mc Heither - 2013-09-11 08:47

      Sadly this is true

      Johan Holtzhausen - 2013-09-11 11:05

      The day before yesterday a woman in my area's shopping centre got robbed of her vehicle as she was climbing in to leave the parking area. The car guards did nothing to assist, so why are they there? Just to prove this is not a racist remark, the guards were all white.

      Mark Thomas - 2013-09-12 09:22

      I disagree for three reasons. 1) I am a lazy sod. 2)It does create lot's of jobs - and this country needs jobs! 3) Having lived in the UK - people fill their tanks, then have to go pay and while paying pick up a few items from the shop. WHILE YOU ARE WAITING BEHIND THEM IN YOUR CAR. It is not a good system, IMO.

      Gail Hayes-Bean - 2013-09-14 18:20

      Mark Thomas. I agree with you and wish to add the following. I am a woman and elderly and just being at a petrol station gives me a headache - allergic to the fumes or something. Secondly, many petrol stations today also have Electricity outlets for the prepaid meters as well as ATM's so that one can pay cash for electricity. The queues for electricity can be horrendous and would mean there would have to be more parking for those people who are drawing money etc. Last but not least selfservice would not work here as how would one control the shysters who fill up and drive off without paying? In other countries it works on an honour system, the motor vehicle users would not for example use routes like Field's Hill to avoid paying toll fees because law enforcement there is actually effective. You also find in those countries that parking is selfservice whereas there are still places here where exit points are manned to prevent people from leaving an open parking area without paying. One must compare apples with apples and I honestly don't mind paying a tip when I have money on me.

  • Kalahari Kgalagadi Safaris - 2013-09-10 16:45

    The rest of the world pump their own fuel. Are we south africans too stupid? Ah! I know! We will just drive off without paying!?

      Gwilym John Howes - 2013-09-13 17:11

      There is a solution for that too. In some places overseas, you have to pre-pay inside, or swipe your credit card at the pump, to activate the pump and start filling. So no problem with the 'fill up and drive off' risk.

      Gail Hayes-Bean - 2013-09-14 18:38

      Thanks for that bit of info Gwilym. I must be honest I've never encountered the swipe card situation overseas but then mostly I am being driven by other people. I still feel though that mechanisation is not the way to go in a country where work opportunities are scarce and being a petrol attendant or car guard is an attempt to render a service rather than expect a govt handout. I used to object strenuously to car guards until one saved me a R500 ticket and I realised that I should be grateful that I am not standing out in all weathers to earn a pittance to keep body and soul together. I rarely carry money even in coin form and often chat to the guard and tell them that I will take my chances as I don't have money and I have never had a problem since then. If I do have money I give them a tip but generally I just thank them.

  • Bertus le Roux - 2013-09-10 16:45

    If I want petrol in my car I am definitely not going to wait until the day they decide to end their strike.

  • Stephen Vee - 2013-09-10 16:46

    Dear AA, I think you have just lost the respect of the majority of vehicle drivers in South Africa by issuing this idiotic statement. Motorists in many countries pump their own petrol. Let's face it, petrol attendants are merely a job-creation scheme. I challenge a fuel retailer to swap to self-service and break the mould.

  • Brian Enslin - 2013-09-10 16:47

    What a load of crap! I know exactly what "the limits" of my vehicle are in terms of its fuel. I have filled up my vehicle with diesel hundreds of times on construction sites. Not too mention generators and construction plant. Really? This is the most pathetic statement I have ever heard coming from the AA. Rather stick to campaigning against E-Tolls.

  • Freddie Jones - 2013-09-10 16:55

    PLEASE READ THE ARTICLE! The AA is NOT saying it is dangerous to pump your own fuel. The AA IS SAYING is that it is AGAINST SA LAW. What we need is a change of the law, as many contributors point out, 'pumping your own gas' is common place in the UK, the USA and mainland Europe. And yes, I've done it many times in each of those places.

      Keiran Reilly - 2013-09-10 18:00

      Actually Freddie - it seems like they said both. Had they stuck to just the first part and not mentioned how specific training is apparently required it may have been better.

      Rustic - 2013-09-10 18:47

      In any event, stuff the law where it is so stupid. And why is the AA bleating on behalf of gvt??

      Gi Da Costa ESilva - 2013-09-10 20:43

      I work for a mining group. Due to the large number of vehicles, there are fuel pumps on the mine. We fill our own vehicles everyday!! And strangely enough, from the cleaner right up to the manager knows how to fill their vehicles.

      Mark Thomas - 2013-09-12 09:25

      Gi - did you all do the same course on filling your tanks? Did any study further and take their Masters or PhD in tanking filling? :)

  • Ant Keyter - 2013-09-10 16:56

    Such BS from a supposedly trustworthy organization. I've been filling up my own car for the last 17 years in Europe and Australia and bloody hell I didn't have to have formal training to do it. She. Did they get so full of crap.

  • Andre de Lange - 2013-09-10 17:05

    Is the director of the AA also linked to the strike action ! All petrol pumps are in any case equipped with safety valves!

  • Raymond Douglas Pickering - 2013-09-10 17:08

    I first had to fill my vehicle in 1971 whilst touring Europe more than 42 years ago. What has changed in this country - press a pump trigger and your petrol gushes into the petrol tank. The AA seem to be in a dream world or is there a sinister plot before the 2014 elections?

  • Tony Bosman - 2013-09-10 17:10

    Please AA, in general I respect you but when you make a comment about the training etc, then I laugh at you. When travelling in Europe, I pumped my own petrol and I did not need training.

  • Gideon van Zyl - 2013-09-10 17:13

    What rubbish. I think with this statement the AA is losing credibility!

  • Bruce Lawson - 2013-09-10 17:17

    Hahahahahahahahahah AA you made my day!! Where did you dream up this drivel?? So all petrol pump attendants are clearly affected on a daily basis by an unhealthy environment - OH wait until they read this - then see the strike go pear shaped as they demand masks and protective suits - Pulllease AA you are way way better than this - and I just renewed my membership dammit!!

      Dwen-Hein Heiberg - 2013-09-10 17:30

      Does the University of Stellenbosch recognize this training course? Id love to book myself a spot, would be part time though, so I should have my degree in petrol pumping in 3 years. Boom! Cant wait for my new highly trained skill set.

  • Bernard Grobbelaar - 2013-09-10 17:18

    This is mind blowing. So in SA it's illegal to full your own car! In Canada we all have to fill our own cars, and no one is being negatively affected. And what a laughable comments about being trained to use the automatic stop on a pump or the different kinda of petrol. This is so ridiculous that the AA should publish an apology. If you won't motorists to show solidarity with pump attendants that say so openly. And shame on the SA government f

  • Michael Hibbert - 2013-09-10 17:18

    Oh cry me a river. What utter rubbish. This is so condescending of the AA, do they think we are all idiots (well maybe some). Topping up a tank is certainly no rocket science. Despite that theres a law (stupidly) forbids it, I'm more worried and at risk of idiots behind the wheel driving, than topping up a tank.

  • Bernard Grobbelaar - 2013-09-10 17:19

    Shame on SA government for making it illegal.

  • drohan.vandenberg - 2013-09-10 17:22

    I agree Compos. If you dont check them they will fill your diesel vehicle with 95, and then its eish sorry ne. Even with autostop telling them the tank is full, some of them will keep their hand on the trigger and spill a liter or two. I am sure I can do it myself. It is called unskilled labour for a reason (you dont need any skills).

  • Theo Smith - 2013-09-10 17:22

    thay why we get dumasse like you 2 full up your thanks

  • Bruce Lawson - 2013-09-10 17:23

    The more I read this the angrier I get - how dare a respected (well used to be) organisation that I have been a member of for plenty years, issue this total BS and actually expect us to believe it and act on it - shame shame on you! Its like an April Fools joke email that's late!!!

  • Geoffrey John Van Wyk - 2013-09-10 17:25

    What a load of bill, I have seen many times Taxis been rocked to get as much fuel in as possible way past the tank limit , plus a 5 year year old can work a fuel pump its not rocket science, government is just protecting jobs which is fine but at least be at work so there is no need for us to fill our own tanks.

  • Frederick Cunliffe - 2013-09-10 17:26

    "Petrol pump attendants have been trained"?????? So have truck and taxi drivers?

  • Aidan Berry - 2013-09-10 17:26

    Hahaha!! AA you talk so much ####

  • Dexter Tangocci - 2013-09-10 17:26

    What a stupid statement. The AA must be drunk.

  • Mario V Calcagni - 2013-09-10 17:26

    Can someone please fact check this article and see if the AA really did make this statement. It sounds a bit fishy to me.

  • Jonathan William King - 2013-09-10 17:27

    Try and stop me.

  • Ntombi Zulu - 2013-09-10 17:27

    The AA that gave this info must be Alcoholics Anonymous.

  • Peter Pullen - 2013-09-10 17:34

    I will not be renewing my AA membership. I do not want to belong to an organisation that is run by idiots!

  • Peter Van Der Linden - 2013-09-10 17:37

    WHAT A LOAD of rubbish.......... so we the vehicle owners must be held over a barrel by the strikers...? In a 1st World country like the UK - we do not have petrol attendants, we pump our own fuel, pump our own tyres and check oil & water levels ourselves... all this in a country that's probably the strictest anywhere with their 'Elf & Safety Laws...... AA - you are a joke... do you really, really think we're morons and that you can basically say that we are not "qualfied" to pump our own fuel. I'm SO READY to cancel my AA Membership due to this idiotic comment!

  • Nettie Potgieter - 2013-09-10 17:41

    AA can you please tell me what degree I need to become a pompjoggie.

  • Dagga Movement - 2013-09-10 17:45

    NOW I have heard everything. Americans help themselves everyday.

      Kathy Le Brasse - 2013-09-10 18:00

      Nonsense! S.Africa must be one of the last countries where petrol pump attendants fill your tank.Here in Ireland,at my first attempt to fill the tank,I was unsure..but another driver helped...Wouldn't ever expect anyone now to put petrol in my car.I'm nearly 70yrs old and well able to do a simple task as pumping peyrol!

      Kathy Le Brasse - 2013-09-10 18:00

      Nonsense! S.Africa must be one of the last countries where petrol pump attendants fill your tank.Here in Ireland,at my first attempt to fill the tank,I was unsure..but another driver helped...Wouldn't ever expect anyone now to put petrol in my car.I'm nearly 70yrs old and well able to do a simple task as pumping peyrol!

  • Dawn Kilian - 2013-09-10 17:45

    The aa are full of s**** in NZ u fill your own car same applies to Europe ..,

  • Jan Henning - 2013-09-10 17:48

    Now it seems that the AA is also making brainless statements. Most new fuel pumps are equipped to take cards and can be programmed to issue fuel by the litre or amount. The statement on attendants knowing the capacity of a specific model's fuel tank is equally brainless. It is irellevant if the fuel tank is not totally empty. I will surely vote for self service, then I don't have to wait for an attendant at a vacant pump.

  • Morgana Robbertze - 2013-09-10 17:56

    What a load of crap. People in europe all pump their own petrol and actually pay for it.

  • Haydn Marchant - 2013-09-10 18:05

    Hahaha, what a joke - we all fill our cars in the UK - even 94 year old Mrs Miggins! Fire the damn strikers and join the rest of the world filling your own!

      George J Moffat - 2013-09-13 08:56

      That's rubbish you not in the UK!

  • Erichsen Welgemoed - 2013-09-10 18:09

    O please wat a lot off bull

  • Mahandra Sukhnandan - 2013-09-10 18:19

    Really a stupid comment from AA, i understand safety and do understand Security, but petrol company's, can adapt safer mechanisms to fuel your own car. They say attendants are trained, trained to be told what to do. Some cant even read the tyre pressure gauge. Its time we help ourselves, as service all round, in SA sucks.

  • Michael Peters - 2013-09-10 18:19

    Why??? What a dumb request by the AA. The petrol attendants are trained in what? All of them are morons. We do not need them. Period.

  • Pieter Scheepers - 2013-09-10 18:22

    I can picture clearly in my mind how some idiot fills up with a ciggie in one hand and a baby in the other and burns down the whole forecourt...

  • Jannie Snyman - 2013-09-10 18:25

    As an AA member you are talking absolute rubbish. No need overseas to be trained etc to fill your tank and we lived and worked there. I would welcome a move to self help. The sooner the better. Scrap these stupid laws.

  • Funwithgoats - 2013-09-10 18:31

    Is the AA insinuating that we are all idiots, people pump there own gas world wide. Rather park your car at the garage and wait for the strike to end. WTF.

  • Terry Burne - 2013-09-10 18:39

    So AA, you're saying that they actually train these people to dribble petrol down the side of your car, and smear your windscreen with dirty muddy water?

  • Mike Mugadzaa - 2013-09-10 18:47

    I see in the movie in the United States people pump their own fuel,why stil put up with Strikes in Africa?

  • Robbie Crouch - 2013-09-10 18:55

    Those laws were put in place to "protect" the attendants jobs. In most other countries you fill up yourself!

  • Jean-Pierre De Lapelin Dumont - 2013-09-10 19:01

    Biggest pile up rubbish I have ever heard. All over the world motorists are able to fill up their own vehicles with absolutely no training whatsoever. The AA should be encouraging motorists to take a stand and show the government that we dont actually need petrol attendants.

  • Andre Oosthuisen - 2013-09-10 19:04

    So the idiot who put petrol in my diesel car ( after I told him) the other really knew the limits didn't he. So I am allowed to fill and fly a plane, and run a company but too uneducated to fill a car. Ok so lets all get tested as part of our license and get this aspect covered. Call it what it is, idiotic job creation!

  • siyaziwa.mjali - 2013-09-10 19:22

    I would personally take AA's advice into consideration unless in disparate situation. Lets ask ourselves these questions.1 Is the secondary protection equipment and maintenance standards between these countries and our the same?2 Are safety regulations and procedures the same? Are we awere of the evacuation procedures and warning systems? It is not only about payment. Systems it all revolve around safety. If the answer is not on any of the above we might be putting someone elses lives in danger.

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