Tourism to lose billions over new travel laws
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Tourism to lose billions over new travel laws

2014-06-10 07:00

Cape Town - New regulations for passengers travelling by air with children will cost the tourism sector over R6.8bn in losses and could result in job cuts, warned the Board of Airline Representatives South Africa (Barsa) on Monday.

The ministry of home affairs amended immigration regulations concerning travelling with children amid concern about the growing issue of child trafficking.

From July parents will have to provide an unabridged birth certificate of all travelling children.

In addition, South Africans and foreigners will have to provide details of the child's father and mother. This will apply even when both parents are travelling with their children.

When children are travelling with guardians, these adults are required to produce affidavits from parents proving permission for the children to travel.  

Unabridged birth certificate applications can take up to eight weeks to complete.  

Airlines will be forced to refuse travel to families not in possession of these documents.

"The financial impact on service providers and reputational damage for South Africa is inevitable", said Barsa.

It also said the timing of the new policy comes at a bad time when South Africa prepares to welcome tourists over the peak European school holiday travel season.

A child denied boarding by an airline ultimately means a family can’t travel and, by industry estimates, until traveller awareness is 100%, tourist arrivals to South Africa could be negatively impacted by up to 20%.

"Based on 2013 numbers, 536 000 foreign visitors could be denied travel."

"The lost income to South Africa from these high value visitors could be over R6.8bn annually inevitably leading to job losses in the South African tourism sector."

The new immigration regulations have been widely criticised.

The Forum of Immigration Practitioners said it had an array of shortcomings which would make it impossible to apply for a work visa or any other visa.

Global Migration SA said it was unconstitutional and could result in litigation against government.

The strict visa rules also threaten to jeopardise South Africa's entertainment industry from future investment as foreign companies consider where to do location shoots and film movies, TV series and commercials.

The travel and work schedules of many A-list actors are such that they cannot return to their home countries to submit applications, said Global Migration SA managing director.

 - Fin24

Comments
  • Marnus Smith - 2014-06-10 07:13

    I bought tickets months ago, can I sue government to get my money back. The guy at Belville home affairs told me that one cannot put in an urgent application. They themselves did not now how to process the application in seeing that they haven't received "the email" yet. In effect I had to apply for a late application for a birth certificate for my 5 year old.

      Ayanda M Masina - 2014-06-10 07:32

      How come your five year old child doesn't have a birth Certificate? In the first place a child cannot get a passport without the birth certificate

      Gideon Joubert - 2014-06-10 07:37

      FYI Ayanda, you only get issued an abridged birth certificate: you must specially apply for an unabridged birth certificate.

      Laurent Greyling - 2014-06-10 07:42

      @Ayanda, he probably have a birth certificate, there is a difference between "normal" and unabridged certificates. And also to your other comment, I agree it is good in order to try and stop child/human trafficking, but lets be honest here, do you really think it will stop anything with our corrupt government. Only thing that will happen is that SA will make a loss from tourism and the "trafficker" will make some official and himself rich. And how difficult is it to type up an affidavit as a gaurdian, pay a cop/official to stamp it and say all was signed infront of him/her...

      Zohan Steppingstone - 2014-06-10 07:44

      Here's my question: What sort of parent does not have a birth certificate for their child?

      Gideon Joubert - 2014-06-10 07:50

      Zohan: maybe try reading before posting?

      Hayley Fredericks - 2014-06-10 07:55

      Zohan, Ayanda and the likes..... There is a HUGE difference between a birth certificate and an UNABRIDGED Birth Certificate! They are completely different documents. Ok so to explain it simply so you can understand, every child gets a birth certificate when they are born but NOT an unabridged birth certificate. A birth certificate just states the details of the child. An unabridged birth certificate, which needs to be applied for specifically OVER AND ABOVE a normal birth certificate has the details of the child and ALL the details of the parents. Got it?

      Fanie Viljoen - 2014-06-10 07:58

      Marnus, its a small price to pay to keep just 1 kid safe and out of the hands of harm. I have no problems with this and would like to congratulate Government on this hard stance. Well done SA!!

      Marnus Smith - 2014-06-10 08:03

      My son has a birth certificate, only not an unabridged one. I dont mind the regulation. Just dont announce it 5 weeks before implimentation but at the same time application takes 6-8 weeks.

      Farida Malick - 2014-06-10 08:14

      Zohan and Ayanda, an unabridged birth certificate is different from an abridged one. It has more information about the child, including the parents I.D numbers, and is issued ONLY on application...and it takes up to eight weeks (or more) to get processed. An abridged birth certificate has basic information and is given after the child is born. Hope that explains that..!

      Leigh-Rose Jenkins - 2014-06-10 08:27

      Sorry, I'm with Ayanda and Zohan on this one. My parents sorted all documentation out as soon as each of us were born. No waiting until we were 2, 3 or 5 years old before ensuring they were in possession of ALL legal documents pertaining to us.

      Ian Flack - 2014-06-10 08:38

      I would like to know how it can take between three and six months to get any type of birth certificate?

      karin.devereuxrackley - 2014-06-10 08:43

      I had the same problem yesterday, home affairs knew nothing, we fly next week, kids have passports, normal birth certificates, now we may loose a serious amount of money....pissed off...nobody from home affairs, immigration or travel agents know how the rule applies or when it's in effect, we leave in june and return in July, when we applied for passports why did they not ask ?????

      Alan Erwin - 2014-06-10 09:00

      The answer is simple .... have like most modern countries ONE TYPE of birth certificate from the start END of problem. Meaning an abridged birth certificate is the only one issued at birth.

      Patrick Starkey - 2014-06-10 09:17

      Alan, that would require the application of common sense. Not so common in our leadership.

      Chez Kri - 2014-06-10 09:29

      I only waited 3 weeks for an unabridged birth certificate so all is not lost. And once you have it, you have it forever.

      Gerrie Butler - 2014-06-10 09:36

      Again this has all the right intentions and none of the practical consideration. I spent a huge amount of time at Home Affairs last week trying to obtain an unabridged birth cert. They informed me it would take 12 weeks but can't promise anything. There was a lady in the line next to me who had been waiting for her son's cert since July 2013 - despite the fact that applied a second time in February. I agree that child trafficking is a huge problem and has to be stopped, but all govt does with the new red tape is to aggravate law abiding folk and nothing to stop the real problem. Oh and of course, let's quickly kill our tourism industry.

      Verna Pretorius Thomas - 2014-06-10 10:20

      you are supposed to get an unabridged birth certificate immediately (they print it in the office where you apply for it). you just have to have your child's birth certificate, your SA ID and Passport and the same for your wife. They just verify all the details with Pretoria and you should get it promptly. Try the Paarl office - they are brilliant with this. Phone and demand action!

      TheFith Element - 2014-06-10 12:58

      No Verna that is not the case. The request must go to the Department in Pretoria, where they go through archives. Like me my son was not captured on the system, so they had to physically look for it in boxes!!! They print an abridged in 10seconds. I waited 1 year for the unabridged, and that was 3 years ago. Good luck if anyone thinks that they will be getting theirs in that amount of time from July.........

      Eric Moneyvalu - 2014-06-10 15:43

      I think its a good idea. Only if you have children will you want to protect them . Im actually expecting thunbs down from Human traffickers and Paedophiles. My nephew went overseas and it took only a week to get the unabridged birth certificate.

      Verna Pretorius Thomas - 2014-06-11 09:05

      Van der Spuy & Partners Goeie nuus vir vakansiegangers wie geraak word deur die immigrasie regulasies- Die inwerkingtreding van die vereiste om te toer met volledige geboortesertifikate (pa en ma se besonderhede op) plus paspoorte vir kinders onder 18 is uitgestel na 1 Oktober 2014. Die kort vakansie begin 3 Oktober. So as jy en jou kinders na die Botswana kant van die Kgalagadi op pad is doen solank aansoek.

  • renofinch - 2014-06-10 07:13

    ANC brain power at work...you can almost smell the rubber burning!

      Hugo Monterro - 2014-06-10 07:43

      I'll support anything that protects children

      Spikkels NK - 2014-06-10 07:55

      Hugo do you really think somewhere there's a child trafficker reading this going "well that's that then, I'll have to get a real job now"? Don't be naive. Child traffickers will just find a workaround.

      Gideon Joubert - 2014-06-10 08:23

      Koos, are you retarded?

      Jonathan Woods - 2014-06-10 08:49

      Koosie if only just some of the BS that spurts from your retarted brain were remotely true ! The sad fact is that this might stop a few separating or divorced parents from illegally removing children from the country. But it is in no way going to stop or slow down the traffickers who avoid these methods of travel anyway. In their usual manner your stupid anc NATS are attacking this the wrong way. The only thing as stated that this will effect is the tourist industry and much needed foreign currency . As long as illegals can get into this country by simply walking a few km through the bush and either cutting the fence or digging under it this new implementation is going to do nothing to the real problem !

      renofinch - 2014-06-10 08:57

      Consult with people, understand the impact, introduce the law gradually and with sufficient warning. How many child traffickers go through passport control anyway? The people that make our laws don't think things through, in fact they don't think...period!

      Xenswim1 - 2014-06-10 09:03

      Imagine how many new black kids will not be allowed in from Africa and how many allowed out. Imagine the chaos. One good thing it will likely save on child grants but add to the orphanages as more kids are dumped upon the parents returning to their home land.

      Koos Bekker - 2014-06-10 09:18

      @ Jonathan, A comment from you, without insults, is just impossible !! But, I suppose a, a lack of education is the cause of this !! Firtstly, there are FEW , ANC Nats !! Less than 5 % of ANC voters are Whites !!! Secondly, you are wrong, again.... The by far the majority of child trafficking is done, via official border posts !! But, for some silly, childish ANC bashing, i will give you a 7 !! .

      Achmat Fouze Fredericks - 2014-06-10 16:16

      @spikkels: No doubt many will find a work around. But some will be deterred and if it makes it that much harder to do, then its already contributing to eradicating/or at least minimizing this Global problem... Perhaps its implementation required a little more planning. Perhaps its rushed (before peak traveling season). While peak European traveling season=good business, maybe the peak European traveling season corresponds to a peak in child abductions? Just a thought. If it makes our kids safer, i'm all for it...

  • peterroy.logan - 2014-06-10 07:19

    Welcome to our world,ANC style

      Piet Fourie - 2014-06-10 07:29

      Agreed Peter . Once again acting without thinking

      Rik Ruiters - 2014-06-10 09:09

      In Europe exact the same laws were approved concerning children that travel and they ll be applied drom the same day as in South Africa... So you pretend now that the ANC also rules Europe... Lol... Get first your facts right...

      Kroese Luis - 2014-06-11 08:59

      You are a liar, Rik Ruiters. There is no such law approved in Europe. Idiot.

  • rory - 2014-06-10 07:24

    Lets self destruct. Unions do a good job of losing jobs, no we have another avenue to screw our economy. More beggars to feed. ??

  • Ben Stone - 2014-06-10 07:26

    So do I understand correct? You guys are more concerned about the buckets of money you are going to loose, than the welfare of the kidnapped children that this law is meant to protect? Disgusting!

      Justice Mukhola - 2014-06-10 07:31

      I agree with you very much Ben.

      Reality - 2014-06-10 07:56

      @Ben..and you really think that this law will protect kidnapped children with a corrupt government in charge? Disgusting!

      Ian Harrison - 2014-06-10 08:06

      To most people this is a problem they are hardly aware of. Who are these children and what evidence has been presented to justify this action?

      Edward Spainell - 2014-06-10 08:21

      Heinrich, so go and apply for the unabridged certificate now. No need to wait, they don't expire. And as of 4 March 2013, any birth certificate issued is only the unabridged one, so the problem will slowly go away. And this is not a new global practice either. We're bringing ourselves in line with the rest of the world, rather late as well.

      Leigh-Rose Jenkins - 2014-06-10 10:50

      Ben, that is exactly what their problem is. To hell with the other children, right? I seriously don't understand what the issue is. Every single thing that our Home Affairs department are now requesting when issuing children with Visas is absolutely no different to the procedure you would follow if, for example, applying for a Shengen visa. Wow, look at how much tourism has been lost in the Shengen regions!!

      Kerri- Lee Barlow - 2014-06-11 09:59

      Um Edward not true, I have checked with home affairs. We are expecting our little one in July and I requested that I get an unabridged when I register him. I was told I first have to register and attain an abridged (normal) birth certificate and then apply for an unabridged. It is not automatically issued.

      Tracy Musto - 2014-06-11 13:03

      I have a foster child who has been with me for 10 years already. We are wanting to go visit cousins in Namibia. Now how does this get done? I have a court order placing him in my custody until minimum age of 18. No way are we getting anything from his neglecting and violent biological mother who there is a protection order against. His biological father, as per his unabridged birth certificate, is unknown, as is his whereabouts. What also about adopted kids? Also, his old school used to like to insist on unabridged birth certificates that are not older then 6 months!!!

  • Bruce Gee - 2014-06-10 07:28

    Typical totaliatarian approach to the problem - like RICA, FICA, BBEE, makes life hell for the average tax paying, law-abiding person, yet the nasty criminals and baddies will continue their activities unabated. And what about the case where the father was a passing ship in the night and is not listed on the birth certificate? crashes the system #bringbackmystepdaughter

  • Ayanda M Masina - 2014-06-10 07:29

    This new law is a way to curb child trafficking as it is on the rise and secondly some ppl fight with spouses n elope with children. What people must do is to comply with regulations that protect the vulnerable, travel agencies must inform travellers about the new laws & our embassies abroad are there for that. When we travel abroad we also comply with their Laws. We would rather lose R6.8 Billion that have our children trafficked by Peadophiles, slave traders & prostitution syndicates

      Gideon Joubert - 2014-06-10 07:39

      This law will not curb child trafficking: our borders are porous enough for it to continue unabated. It will simply put another bullet into our economy's head. This is what happens when people think with their hearts instead of their heads.

      Reality - 2014-06-10 08:03

      And you really think this law will curb child trafficking with a Government in charge that "mislaid" R 30 billion each year in taxpayers' money. That taxes people (e-tolls) and send 40% of the "tax" overseas. That takes no action against people who steal from the taxpayer. Then you probably believe in fairies as well.

      Justin Pretorius - 2014-06-10 08:19

      Dear God Ayanda, think with your brain! If you are going to traffic people you are going to use the cheapest means possible and less riskiest route and this is LAND BORDERS!!

      Albert Steyn - 2014-06-10 08:27

      Gideon, I believe that they are rather "thinking" with a part further south in place of sitting on it... or not at all! Nobody arguing against these regulations or against any forms of child abuse. Maybe they should start with the easy more common sense stuff like curbing the uncontrolled influx over our northern borders first!

      David Joffe - 2014-06-10 09:26

      This is what happens when we rush into policy based on hysterical moral panic, and flawed statistics and 'evidence'.

  • Willie Olivier - 2014-06-10 07:37

    I think it's a great idea! Can you imagine the kidnappers of Madilyn McCain' s kidnappers are somewere in the country, and now they have to produce a unabridged birth certificate to take her somewhere else in the country! Come on people! It can be your child at risk here!

      Chris Edwards - 2014-06-10 07:44

      Agreed for once money and foreigners don't count!!

      Reality - 2014-06-10 08:05

      > ..and now they have to produce a unabridged birth certificate to take her somewhere else in the country! Ever heard of cars? You can get from one part of the country without flying.

      gingit1979 - 2014-06-10 09:02

      It is a good idea. I just think there should be given some time to allow people who already made the travel arrangements, time to get proper documents. It isn't fair that people who paid for their travels already, lose the money paid as well as the right to travel, over a law that was passed and implemented without warning. I also doubt it will curb child trafficking much, sadly :-(

  • Justice Mukhola - 2014-06-10 07:37

    What do people want exactly? Money or safety of South African Citizens? I completely agree with this laws.

      DerpyHooves - 2014-06-10 08:10

      We should also ban all recording equipment (including camera phones), since it may be used in the production of CP. Let's also van the internet while we're at it. I can say this because 'it's for the children' is a argument that justifies any illogical action.

  • Kobus Pienaar - 2014-06-10 07:37

    The problem in SA is that this will negatively affect legal travellerz while doing nothing to stop the criminals. Corruption in our country has reached the level where criminals will just get/buy the dics they need to continue their activities. I am all for protecting our children, but fix the bigger pdonelm of corruption first, otherwize this will not have the desired effect, but instead will just make life difficult for all. And in addition there should be systems in place to deal wit excdptions to the rule...there are always valid exceptions.

      Reality - 2014-06-10 08:06

      Totally agree. Without curbing corruption this is just another law to be ignored by lawbreakers.

  • Scumezza - 2014-06-10 07:38

    8 weeks if you are lucky - I have been trying to get my unabridged certificate for over a year now - about to throw in the towel again. Not the first time - starting to think I do not exist!

  • Gerrie Bossert - 2014-06-10 07:39

    Honesty this is a stupid regulation. The tourist industry is RSA bread and butter and becuase of this we going to have alot of hungry children because of the jobcuts. This wont solve child trafficking and these documents can be easily falsified or an official can be bribed. So this doesint solve anything.

  • Qxtsa - 2014-06-10 07:40

    @Ayanda and where do you think the lost billions would be recovered from?

  • Altus Kirsten - 2014-06-10 07:42

    ANC trying to get to DA because Cape Town is number 1 holiday destination. Politcs at work again.

  • arthur.salvado - 2014-06-10 07:43

    SA now a crime hubb ? No longer the financial hubb of Africa so we might as well excel in crime. I think we're champion already

  • Leoni Du Preez - 2014-06-10 07:43

    Traveling overseas? Or in SA as well ?

  • lskosana3 - 2014-06-10 07:44

    What's the difference between an abridged and unabridged birth certificate?

      Christi De Vos - 2014-06-10 07:56

      Hi the one only states the mothers name not the fathers name this is normal practise with a birth certificate. Both my girls have passports but now you have to go and re apply for a birth certificate with both parents on the certificate before you can travel. I have no problem with security for your kids. But with holiday plans made and no planning from government this is going to cause major issues.

  • gavin.allchurch1 - 2014-06-10 07:48

    Congrats SA government. For once I agree wholeheartedly with your decision. To all the moaners .... Just imagine for 1 second that your child is taken and as a result of this law , they are found IN SA before they are trafficked away. Well done RSA. Well done. If anybody thinks that money is more important than the life of a child ... Well let's just say , maybe take a long hard look at your life...

      Gideon Joubert - 2014-06-10 07:52

      If you for one second believe that this law would do anything to curb human trafficking, then you are braindead.

      dirkie.theunissen - 2014-06-10 07:54

      Well said

      Sthembiso Jali - 2014-06-10 08:18

      I do agree Nathan- only child traffickers will have a problem with this.

      Justin Pretorius - 2014-06-10 08:22

      Try and get a normal birth certificate buddy ;) Lots of luck to you

  • Steve Bobs - 2014-06-10 07:50

    What age is a child not a child in these new laws? 15, 16, 17?

      karin.devereuxrackley - 2014-06-10 08:37

      18......

  • Peter Gugelmin - 2014-06-10 07:52

    Most 1st World countries issue an unabridged birth certificate at the registration of the birth of the child, same as an unabridged marriage and death certificate. To make things easier going forward, that is also what SA should do with immediate effect.

      Justin Pretorius - 2014-06-10 08:59

      Unfortunately this is not the case and that is the problem with this law. The system is not in place to cover this law and most traficking occurs via land borders - ask the EU about that problem which they can't quite stop with the Schengen treaty

  • Neville Krauss - 2014-06-10 07:52

    Home affairs had better step up their game , a few years ago I applied for Unabridged Bith Certificates, I took over 8!!! months. A agency in Cape Town could do it in 4 weeks but wanted R 2500.00 per application. Suggest all travels check their travel insurance.

  • Brett Scheepers - 2014-06-10 07:54

    i fly alone with my kids and i have never had a problem with any immigration officers before. Now SA wants to make it harder for genuine tourists to visit the country or for Saffas to see the rest of the world. Surely the same rules should apply for people entering or leaving SA by car or boat.Why just by plane?

      Justin Pretorius - 2014-06-10 09:00

      That is the point. Traffickers use land borders mostly because it is cheaper and you bribe the officials. At airports it is pretty much a waste of time. This law has been thought of in Nkandla whilst swimming in his fire pool

  • Marco Nicolai - 2014-06-10 07:56

    Ikosana3 The difference is as follows, the normal certificate only have the name of the mother the unbridge have the name of Father and Mother

  • Warren Lagendijk - 2014-06-10 07:56

    I agree that child trafficking is in no way acceptable and all measures should be taken to curb it - but how about all the jobs set to be lost in the travel industry? I for one work in the travel industry and it is already strained as it is with ridiculous inflation, ailing economy, e-tolls and a volatile rand. Tighten your belts travel industry - It's going to be an uncomfortable and bumpy ride.

  • Joe Casquilho - 2014-06-10 07:59

    So what they going to do if you don't have the paperwork? Take the kids away? I want to see who will try to take my grandkids away if they are traveling with us. Somebody is certainly going to get hurt....badly!

      Thembi Poppy Mnisi - 2014-06-11 16:04

      They will not take away your kids but will turn you back

  • Fred Smith - 2014-06-10 08:01

    Obviously we need to protect against international child trafficking, this is a serious issue. We should be following international best practice and making sure we have all the infrastructure in place for implementation.

  • pete.mears.96 - 2014-06-10 08:05

    Whahahahaha! ANC buffoons thinks politics trumps being pragmatic. Stupid is as stupid does I suppose

  • T-bos Man - 2014-06-10 08:06

    child trafficking is not curbed by making travelling regulations strict. all u need is to root out corruption at our borders because as I am writing I met a woman who crossed into the country illegally yesterday with 2 kids without any documentation.

  • Wilhelm Snyman - 2014-06-10 08:10

    But the other immigration laws are insane, unthought through...

  • brettinlux - 2014-06-10 08:10

    The European schools close for Summer Holidays in 5 weeks time. Thousands of those kids do community work in SA during that time period. Just wonder how this will impact those kids that are travelling with a chaperone and not a parent?

      Justin Pretorius - 2014-06-10 09:06

      They won't be allowed in as the PC brigade patch the wrong wound. I guess they don't care about the thousands of people who depend on tourism industry for their OWN children

  • Johann Pretorius - 2014-06-10 08:11

    I wish people would actually think what they say before they open their mouths. The law is a fantastic idea, and frankly should have been implemented long ago. But like all new laws of the recent past the implementation and enforcing of it has not been thought through. I personally know of at least 6 families who will be affected by this immediately. All having booked travel for the next few weeks. As of late last year all children now get issued with an unabridged birth certificate at birth, but that leaves 17 and a half years worth of children on the dry dock. You cannot just one day decide to implement a law whilst at the back end your DHA is so backlogged that it takes 2 months if you are lucky to get the Document. Malusi Gigaba has never been my favourite person. Now he's at the top of the list.

      Kerri- Lee Barlow - 2014-06-11 10:06

      No they don't. And if they do my home affairs hasn't heard about it. I am due now in July and have heard nothing about receiving an unabridged birth certificate with birth. I have even gone to my home affairs to ask and been in their website. Please tell me where this is done?

      Kerri- Lee Barlow - 2014-06-11 11:35

      Apologies you are correct. The new birth certificate is an unabridged certificate

  • craig.seaton.37 - 2014-06-10 08:11

    I guess most of the ones in favour don't travel much, my kids school here in SA and travel to UK where we also live for school holidays. I travel with them and my wife resides in London. Talk about a mission when we have all the relevant visa documentation already now these added issues.

      Thembi Poppy Mnisi - 2014-06-11 16:15

      I live in the uk and had to have this certificate in 2005 when I took my daughter with me it was a requirement from the British embassy

  • Izack Madisa - 2014-06-10 08:15

    ek worry met the billions i do not know it worry for

  • Karin Camara Versfeld - 2014-06-10 08:15

    Barsa/SA Tourism is worried about money loss?? Really??? What is the price of a child's life??? Brilliant new law!

      Justin Pretorius - 2014-06-10 09:22

      Thinking emotionally makes one blind to the stupidity of this law as it mentions nothing about land borders where kids are trafficked

  • Josey Da Silva - 2014-06-10 08:16

    I applied for an unabridged birth certificate for my daughter in 2012... still waiting... What a stuff up!

      Justin Pretorius - 2014-06-10 09:23

      Yip, that is the point! The systems are not in place even for this law

  • Lums Zindela - 2014-06-10 08:18

    Unabridged birth certificate applications can take up to eight weeks to complete. A fellow from Nigeria can obtain such birth certificate in less than 30 minutes, and that's how things really are, watch this space.

  • Stefan Van Der Spuy - 2014-06-10 08:18

    "How to ruin a country's economy: A step-by-step guide". Proudly brought to by the ANC.

      Stefan Van Der Spuy - 2014-06-10 08:19

      to YOU

  • Emiel Vanden Houte - 2014-06-10 08:23

    We applied for an Unabridged birth certificate on 15 Feb 2013 We are still waiting to receive it 15 months later. There is no backlog at Home Affairs as the new Minister said

  • Loza Napi - 2014-06-10 08:26

    I think its a gud idea but I think its short notice,they should have atleast said th process will start aftr 12 months or so. July s jst around th corner. Otherwise ts a great idea, why wuld it be difficult to have all the necessary documents if u really travelling wth yo child? ppl dnt wana do anything they wanna hav things delivered in a silver plate. lazy lazyys

  • Patricia Roos Fletcher - 2014-06-10 08:27

    Wow I think this is great. maybe now we will be able to keep all spongers on our resources out. Tourists travelling with children are anyway dumb if they do not have every possible doc to assure their safety.

      karin.devereuxrackley - 2014-06-10 08:31

      Excuse me....we travel often with our kids, we received their new passports last year (4 kids ) and nothing was said, I booked and paid for our holiday and was not informed, travel agents, airport and home affairs knew nothing when we phoned to inquire..we have normal birth certificates passports, so Patricia take your dumb comments and shove it. I agree with the new rules, but it needs to be implemented properly with informed notices.......

  • Michelle McLean Peyper - 2014-06-10 08:28

    If this new law can even just keep one kid safe im all for it !

  • Sunshiny Day - 2014-06-10 08:29

    I think it's a very good policy, however they should then make exceptions for those who made travel arrangements before this new law took place OR they have to allow for urgent applications for abridged birth certificates. You can't just make such a law but not make provisions for people who already have made plans and paid money.

  • Niel Pretorius - 2014-06-10 08:29

    Dear government - I would assume that, as I had to file north certificates, and take my wife along with proof of her ID, that you have a database which shows that we are her parents? One swipe of her passport should indicate that we are indeed so? Again its overkill - yes, child trafficking needs to be addressed worldwide, but this is stupid. Why don't you then insert a page into a child's passport indicating the parents' details? As for spouses 'abducting' kids, the Hague Convention has specific procedures for this, and this bit of regulation will not prevent that or any other form of child trafficking. Another shining example of the incompetence of the clowns running this circus

  • Sopholis Solspice - 2014-06-10 08:29

    Chill old people, some of us (Reffering to the youth) who have recently been blessed with babies, we have 'UNABRIDGED CERTIFICATE' thats y the question y ppl dont have it. So chill and go and apply for one.

  • carrie.debruyn - 2014-06-10 08:30

    If a child trafficker can fake a passport, why can't they fake a birth certificate and the parental documentation??

      Justin Pretorius - 2014-06-10 09:25

      They can fake anything indeed ;) Oh and does it have to be translated too from a foreign language officially? That is going to cost

  • Hilly Hardeman Dunsbergen - 2014-06-10 08:32

    My husband went overseas with our eldest daugther in Nov 2013. He really had some trouble in the Netherlands to get her through. They asked her some questions ect, although she has an EU passport and the surnames were the same. This is a world wide campaign and not just South African politics. This won't b ea trouble for us because when our kids were born we requested al the nessecary documents at once. Suggest all people do that from now on.

  • Pooty Tag Sapataw - 2014-06-10 08:32

    You can not put a price tag on children safety Im sorry.I can live with tourism industry losing couple of millions. LETS PUT KIDS FIRST PEOPLE.

  • Morapedi Tshwarelo - 2014-06-10 08:33

    Its amazing how people who critisize this law care about money and not the safety of ther kids!

      Tito Jade - 2014-06-10 13:08

      Everyone is so concerned about everyone but the themselves. Its about time the anc fulfill to those that concerned migration n human trafficking. ...happy I guess ull never b as long as its anc.

  • Stephanes Heunis - 2014-06-10 08:33

    those idiots in government don't think they only act, without concerning, and after that they use the unions to do their dirty work

  • Michael Falatsi - 2014-06-10 08:33

    So this air lines are saying child traficing is good because it bring money shame on them

      Justin Pretorius - 2014-06-10 14:15

      That is a ridiculous statement. Most children are sent through land borders - catch a wake up

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