SA 'can't afford bloated Zuma cabinet'

SA 'can't afford bloated Zuma cabinet'

2014-05-26 11:55

Johannesburg - President Jacob Zuma's new cabinet is too big and will be too costly, the Steel and Engineering Industries Federation of Southern Africa (Seifsa) said on Monday.

"While we understand that cabinet appointments offer the president an opportunity to reward his supporters and to balance the interests of various influences within the ANC-led tripartite alliance... we are very concerned about the size of our cabinet, which is among the biggest in the world," said Seifsa CEO Kaizer Nyatsumba in a statement.

"A developing country like ours, with a small tax base and whose economy has been seriously under-performing, cannot afford such a bloated cabinet."

He said South Africa needed to have more people with experience as business leaders and entrepreneurs so that government would be more sensitive to the interests of business, "which is the goose that lays the golden egg".

Not enough business-savvy ministers

"Our cabinet is made up of people with different experiences, including those from the ANC’s allies in Cosatu and the SA Communist Party, with very little business representation," said Nyatsumba.

"Most of the ministers have never held a corporate job in their lives. Striking a healthy balance among all the interest groups would have made for a more balanced cabinet."

Seifsa, however, welcomed the appointment of Nhlanhla Nene as finance minister and the retention of Rob Davies as trade and industry minister.

"Davies has been readily accessible to the business community and has interacted with it with an open mind," he said.

"He has a very good appreciation of the challenges confronting the business community in the country and understands that our economy will continue to under-perform unless manufacturing in the country is stimulated."

Nyatsumba said Nene had had an opportunity, as deputy minister in the portfolio, to under-study both former finance ministers Trevor Manuel and Pravin Gordhan in the past decade.

"Mr Nene has worked very well with ministers Manuel and Gordhan, both of whom are generally acknowledged to have been the most outstanding ministers since the dawn of our democracy, and he is more than ready for the task at hand," he said.

Sacci welcomes Nene appointment

The SA Chamber of Commerce and Industry welcomed the appointment and said Nene was a skilled and experienced leader.

"The Cabinet shows a commitment to the priorities... these being accelerated infrastructure investment, radical economic transformation, and jobs growth," Sacci CEO Neren Rau said in a statement on Monday.

"Sacci will be an active partner toward an improved economic and investment environment but remains of the view that this must be predicated on lower levels of state interventionism."

The Chamber of Mines congratulated the new cabinet and welcomed the appointment of Ngoako Ramatlhodi as mineral resources minister.

"The Chamber of Mines is encouraged by the appointment of... Ramatlhodi as he brings years of experience in government as a former premier of Limpopo and deputy minister of correctional services," it said in a statement.

"The South African mining sector faces challenges that require concerted efforts by all stakeholders and the chamber believes minister Ramatlhodi can only add value through his leadership of the department."

The Police and Prisons Civil Rights Union (Popcru) said it expected the new cabinet to pick up where the last administration left off.

"We believe that this is an opportune time for the government to deliver many of the South Africans still living in dire poverty from that situation and improve on the unemployment figures," it said in a statement.

"Popcru trusts that the president's decision to establish the new ministry of small business development to be led by minister Lindiwe Zulu will lift some of the pressures felt by those attempting to aid the unemployment crisis through self-employment."

The union also welcomed the merging of the justice and correctional services departments.

"This combination will undoubtedly lift the heavy burden placed on the justice system resulting in overcrowding in our prisons.

"We view this as a step in the right direction..."

  • Leon Le Roux - 2014-05-26 12:06

    SA can't afford Mr Zuma !!

      Margaret Cox - 2014-05-26 12:26

      Or Mrs Zuma, and Mrs Zuma, and Mrs Zuma and Mrs Zuma. And the multitude of Zuma offspring, legitimate and otherwise.

      Frederick Kaczynski - 2014-05-26 12:49

      "Most of the ministers have never held a corporate job in their lives." = Kraal Mentality or if you prefer ... Running a 21st century economy like a tuck shop

      matches - 2014-05-26 12:56

      Increase the tax by getting more people to pay personal taxes... thus even the labourer is to pay personal tax even if it is R10 rand out of a monthly R3000. This will stimulate democracy as the voters will then know who and what they are voting for. The irony of the last election is that during apartheid few paid taxes to suppress many and in our new "freedom" few pay taxes to be suppressed by many...

      Jonathan Woods - 2014-05-26 18:32

      I have an even better suggestion. As they refer to what we have as a representational democracy. The representatives of each party in parliament should be paid for by those who voted fro them. In other words the 11 million barely employed, unemployed, illiterate and a few black business faithful can pay for all their anc representatives. the rest will pay for their current opposition representatives. Maybe then the majority will learn who they should be electing !

  • SA Citizen - 2014-05-26 12:09

    What i dont understand is that the Prez said radical economic transformation is coming.That means he will take more away from the minority taxpayer to keep his voters happy.But why then add more ministers and deputy ministers,adding to state expenditure,and therefor meaning increasing the tax burden even more.?

      Elvin Henry Coulter - 2014-05-27 12:54

      Gravy buddy, the piper must be paid. Zooma doesn't care about SA, soon he will retire, wealthy, fantastic housing, nice undercover bank account, new nearby town and new roads. All paid for by the taxpayer. When the rest of the country collapses, Jacobs little fiefdom, Remains. The only thing he's forgotten, is if the body dies, so does the (shower) head.

  • Joe Black - 2014-05-26 12:10

    Job promises, during the election.

      Johan van der Walt - 2014-05-26 12:17

      the job creation he promised, all for his cronies an parly

  • Smithfield Mpenvana - 2014-05-26 12:18

    Nywe nywe's to the next 5 years. Cheers to President Zuma :)

      anton.v.schalkwyk - 2014-05-26 15:43

      Idiot. Either you dont see whats happening or you dont care. Enjoy living on your grant in your shack.

      Blinde Sambok - 2014-05-27 12:52

      Moron doesn't pay tax so he doesn't care. Probably cannot count either.

  • Siyaxolisa Matomela - 2014-05-26 12:21

    These are the jobs he said his gona create.. Pravin G was too clever n was moved aside for wantin to cut government spending

  • Dawid Jacobs - 2014-05-26 12:21

    Again, who cares, not the poor or the shows the corrupt anc can do as they wish.....

      Billy Andrew Croucamp - 2014-05-26 12:30

      The sheep voted.... so they must not bleet... I dont care about the poor, they are the ones voting to be that way..

  • Billy Andrew Croucamp - 2014-05-26 12:28

    Just more and more and more and more on the gravey train.....

      Matome Molefe - 2014-05-26 12:43

      "sheep voted". Who are you referring to Billy?

      Jasper Sterling - 2014-05-26 13:27

      Sheep is a metaphor for gullible people who much like actual sheep simply do as they're told and follow where they are led. A sheep can be characterized by its lack of individuality and independent thought or decision making ability. A sheep will simply follow another immediately in front him, who follows the one ahead of him, and so on, without any real thought or consideration for the destination or whether proceeding is even a good idea or desirable; even when being led through steep and treacherous mountain paths overgrown with dense thorny vegetation, with wolves picking off stragglers, the mindless sheep simply presses onward doing as his mate in front does, assuming his mate is applying his mind as to the merits of continuing on their ominous path; only, that is the exact same thing that wool head in front is also assuming all the way to the front where the lead sheep who wasn't actually leading anyone anywhere just got lost, and is floundering around hoping to find his way back to the meadow he had no intention of leaving in the first place, but is glad his mates are with, cos it's dangerous out where they are, and he feels safer in numbers (plus hopefully someone knows wtf they are and can lead the herd back...oh dear). Such is the nature and mindset of the ANC voter at election time, hence the metaphorical comparison to our wooly numbskulled ruminants. Hope that clarifies, bleat if you need me to simplify further.

      Naas Du Plessis - 2014-05-26 14:42

      Billy is referring to the uneducated masses given parcels to vote. If you want sa to be like zim and increase our national debt, and let all other services even perish more you vote for him. There are no white and black in sa. It's becoming educated and uneducated people. So yes. The masses are sheep and with the unemployment rate only increasing who in their right mind would vote for zooma.

  • mmmmTim - 2014-05-26 12:35

    Maybe it is so big because the members are all so utterly useless that they can only attempt to manage a tiny part each!! And they still can't do that little bit properly in most cases. There is the odd outstanding exception though, but they must be appalled at the incompetence of most of their colleagues

  • Jaen Esterhuyse - 2014-05-26 12:42

    Ons as belastingbetalers moet 'n vereniging stig waar ons in opstand kom oor die vermorsing van ons belasting geld !!!!!!!!!!!!!

  • Steven Bresler - 2014-05-26 12:43

    I tell you that Zuma and the ANC don't give 2 hoots about the welfare of this country and it's people. What I would like to see is for him to stand in front of the people of this country and one by one justify the appointments. If you look at the country as a whole then not one of the outgoing ministers did what they were supposed to do and it will not change with the incoming ministers.

  • Thuso Encore Salomane - 2014-05-26 12:51

    all one shud do now is focus on their own family and leave those suffering to fend for themselves since they are the ones who voted for him

      Fanie Gerber - 2014-05-26 14:21

      Indeed. Charity begins at home?

  • Coda - 2014-05-26 12:52

    Bad news for S.A. what is Zuma thinking???? We simply cannot afford all these overpaid, overfed ministers who drive the BEST cars money can buy, live in mansions etc.etc. Unebeliveably stupid!!

      Fanie Gerber - 2014-05-26 14:20

      Coda he is not thinking - he is running this government as if it is his own playpen, and he is not responsible for the cost. Completely infantile

  • Robert Starke - 2014-05-26 12:55

    What you expect, Gravy Train just got bigger. Looking after the old boys club. Pathetic

  • Boer Boel - 2014-05-26 12:56

    I have as little respect for Zuma and his clan as I had for PW Botha and his clan.

      Naas Du Plessis - 2014-05-26 14:45

      Pw and zooma are the same person. Maybe pw came back to haunt us. Zuma is just not as clever to hide it well. Zuma and sa don't even feature internationally. But that's what the sheep like. Land turning to unproductive wasteland. Dust. Thats the future of sa if this continues.

  • ester.kruger.5 - 2014-05-26 13:00

    Jip I agree with almost everyone!Let them fry in their own stupidity!

  • Moroamadile Mohlala - 2014-05-26 13:00

    waste of time stating the obvious - it's time to cut losses and get back to work and get the economy going – no help crying over spilled milk

      Naas Du Plessis - 2014-05-26 14:47

      Not gonna happen in the next 5 years. Pravin was a good man to make it happen but zooma doesn't agree with curbing expense. How does a grade 7 have any idea about economics. He can't even make a speech. He just reads whatever Mac writes.

      Jonathan Woods - 2014-05-26 18:56

      Problem is that the milk is being spilled at such a fast rate there will be little or nothing left by the time we get to the other side of the street!

  • Matshane Seleko - 2014-05-26 13:04

    Just this,while we are told by those in the know,that the USA,which is bigger than SA in almost everything,have only a 23-member cabinet.Having said that,my suspicion is that SA have a bloated cabinet because there are so many faces that seemingly had to be rewarded,and though the tax payer may question it,they are 'powerless' to do anything about because the ANC do not rule,they dictate.

      Sterling Ferguson - 2014-05-26 13:32

      Most the cabinets serve no purposes and the people have nothing to do.

      Naas Du Plessis - 2014-05-26 14:48

      It's just giving away money that should be used to uplift the poor.

  • pmalungana - 2014-05-26 13:04

    How about his wives in cabinet?

  • Tarbo Letshego Hmn - 2014-05-26 13:05

    I mayb outta my league here bt really wots da use of having communication & telecommunication ministers,rescue me here experts.

  • Jaco de Clerck - 2014-05-26 13:07

    Jobs for friends - corrupt swine

  • louis.elst - 2014-05-26 13:08

    More takers sitting in parole meant that will be exposed over the next couple of years Zuma your incompetence is obvious you are taking the country down ,as you don't listen to advice from educated professionals that can help you more than appointing people that do not have the know how

  • Adriaan Pieterse - 2014-05-26 13:13

    It seriously doesn't help moaning about the people they have appointed and how big the cabinet is the ANC will go ahead anyway. What the DA must do is stop **itching and when it comes to policy implementation and legislation then they can appose and make their voices heard.

      Adriaan Pieterse - 2014-05-26 13:16

      oppose* my bad.

  • Izack Madisa - 2014-05-26 13:19

    easy question where is maharaj ?

      Mbu Pikoli - 2014-05-26 14:34

      IN HELL

  • Moudy Mudzielwana - 2014-05-26 13:20

    I find it strange that people at senior level always instigate negativity and shifts focus on real issues while fighting what cannot be changed

  • Bongani Nsele - 2014-05-26 13:23

    the biggish cabinet will be offset by its production, they need to hit the ground running

  • Maxi Fox - 2014-05-26 13:51

    Oh well - financial understanding being what it is with our "government", they will simply increases taxes!! Wonder what the EFF think? Would love to see their comments.

  • Clifford Vance Hack - 2014-05-26 13:52

    Please do not complain if you didn't vote or if you voted for the ANC !!!

  • Christian Evans - 2014-05-26 14:02

    The ANC think they can stay in power by promising to the poor with money that is collected from a tax paying minority. It somehow spells disaster in the long run. These promises are doom if you don't deliver, so they will keep on feeding cake to the masses.

  • Lesiba Ernest'o - 2014-05-26 14:06

    You must start your party, contest elections, win decisively and form your own Cabinet..stop whafling.

  • David Wilson - 2014-05-26 14:24

    The eCANCer continues! This is never what Mandela fought for. He would be so ashamed the greed now within the ANC.

  • Clifford Vance Hack - 2014-05-26 14:25

    This is not about race Mofasa, its the fact that the members of the ruling party who are elected to government are making poor choices which is making people angrier and angrier. For example a bloated cabniet is a result of our president cutting deals with other ANC members to vote him in as president of the ANC and a result of having such a bloated cabniet will be a poor performing economy. No one would have a problem with the ANC if they just could produce a proper leader that could fix the real problems in South Africa.

  • Naas Du Plessis - 2014-05-26 14:38

    True but that's what the majority voted for. Why should all these uneducated poor people's vote count the same as the taxpayers vote. They are just supporting the incompetence and mis management of the country while the ANC ensures that the min get educated. That way they can loot as much as they want.

  • Real Realist - 2014-05-26 14:42

    There is one thing that is consistent with the African National Comedians is that they create jobs for the boys and girls of the ANC at Taxpayers expense.

  • Positive Citizen - 2014-05-26 14:51

    It is way more effective to change the perceptions of those around us who have different opinions by discussing their ideas in a structured manner . . . i.e. vs insulting and calling their ideas retarded etc. If only, during the next 5 years, we are able to send a positive message and discuss the reality in a constructive way so we all understand it . . . then we have a chance of transforming this country . . . So to those who insult other people on this site because they think differently I say . . . f^*&&ck you, you are doing more damage than good, because you are alienating the very people you are trying to change. Your methods will never help the change you are looking to create!

  • liz.fivaz1 - 2014-05-26 14:54

    You cannot go forward if 5% of the population have to carry the 95% by paying tax! Plus the lavish parties costing millions for silly celebrations etc by government! Like I said previously, this fountain is going to dry up - what then? I often wonder if they know the difference between a thousand and a million, let alone a billion, they think if it's there it must be blown! aaaaarghh!

      Shelle Malan - 2014-05-26 17:44

      Is it perhaps simply the African way...seems culture dictates that the "Village Headman" holds office for life and is ENTITLED ...and the sheeple must be obedient irrespective of their own suffering

  • Kevin Marsh - 2014-05-26 15:22

    Will someone please tel this fool that we cannot have a cabinet this size .

  • Mike White - 2014-05-26 16:27

    Here goes my TAX!

  • Gerrie Malan - 2014-05-26 17:06

    What about the bloated staff complements of executive mayors?

  • Masti M Soomaru - 2014-05-26 17:34

    Fire Your Maids and Garden Boys!!!!

  • Bastille French - 2014-05-26 17:58

    I m very pleased with this cabinet. The diversity is impressive. Especially gender representation is what i am pleased with. This is a dream team of a cabinet.. It's probably one of the best cabinet ever assembled in democracy south africa. Size does matter, considering the developmental challenges facing your country. The telecommunication minister for example will have to deal with high technology issues like increase of connection to the world wide web. Like south korean connection is the highest in the world. And this connection is beneficial in terms of access to information and the enterprise opportunities that are available in this are good.

      Pensieve - 2014-05-26 20:05

      Bastille, I am not sure if a ministry will be able to deal constructively with issues as the department of telecommunications fails consistently due to incompetence - see the digital migration fiasco. Our telecommunications is behind if compared to other countries BECAUSE of the government's continual failure in this regard...Please also then compare literacy levels of those very countries with fantastic telecommunications - we need to deal with basics as well and our wonderful ministers in both basic and tertiary education definitely are not concerned with increasing the levels of education, but rather to consistently lower the standard of education in order to create a false impression of adequacy. We don't need ministers as much as we need competence on all levels of government. You would also rather be able to work effectively with 5 people that know what they are doing, as opposed to 20 that do not know what they are doing?

  • Richard Young - 2014-05-26 20:54

    Correct there are more in the cabinet to take over when others don't want to work or don't know how to

  • Welcome Mabaso - 2014-05-26 21:05

    "Lets wait and see, and let us be positive, though ofcourse there are challenges here and there, but lets see those who will truely be loyal to their oaths" If they truelly love the ANC, there has to be a lot of changes in which they were doing things. Let us not be negative, however, they must know that people are now different from the first elections, and they have been exposed and knowledgeable to a lot.

      kevern.upton - 2014-05-26 21:27

      Be positive, here's the math, SA has the biggest cabinet in proportion to its country tax base...... Savvy.

  • kevern.upton - 2014-05-26 21:17

    Hope y'all voted anc have your Etolls up to date, they gonna bleed every cent they can..... Big cabinet needs money.

  • paul.d.murison - 2014-05-27 21:06

    I can't help laughing every time I see this clown.

  • rowan.louw.5 - 2014-05-27 23:12

    Zuma obviously don't want another Thuli on his hands. He is employing loyalists to make him look good.

  • arthur.salvado - 2014-05-28 07:46

    SA can't afford ZUMA. Dont worry about the cabinet

  • Peter Petrovski - 2014-05-28 10:11

    Zumaism = World class efficiency!! Population per cabinet minister: SA 1.5mil, India,s new cabinet 78 mil and down under 82mil. We are the worst I could search. Typical ANC - but keep on voting for them and pay.

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