Price inflation not an e-toll problem - official

Price inflation not an e-toll problem - official

2014-11-05 13:31

Pretoria - Any problems in the pricing structure of goods cannot be blamed on e-tolls, said transport department acting director general Mawethu Vilana on Wednesday.

"If there are problems in the pricing structure, it is not an e-toll problem," transport department acting director general Mawethu Vilana said.

Trucking and goods companies decided on prices and were in the wrong if they decided to impose exorbitant prices due to the tolls, he said.

One of the arguments against the electronic tolling system had been that it would increase the prices of goods transported by road.

Vilana argued that if a truck paid R1.50 per gantry the cost of a single item in the truck should not be increased by that amount. Instead the R1.50 should be spread across all the goods in the truck.

"But it just can't be an e-toll problem," said Vilana, adding that goods pricing fell out of his department's jurisdiction.

Vilana was answering questions from the panel appointed by Gauteng premier David Makhura in July to review the tolling system.

It was set up to examine the economic and social impact of the Gauteng Freeway Improvement Project and the e-tolling system set up to fund it.

The panel was expected to present its findings to Makhura at the end of the month.

  • Made-inthe South - 2014-11-05 13:35

    Remember it is a indefinite system,It is forever and forever.So it works like this. Step1-Kapsch pay the bribes for the right to milk us forever Step2-Kapsch take profits out of the country as long as ZANC is in power.They made one mistake,they thought the people of Gauteng are sheep and milk cows

      Richard Frederick Jarvis - 2014-11-05 13:57

      How naive an arrogant is this fool. Go play on the highway you idiot.

      Adrian Bruwer - 2014-11-05 14:28

      That's not what the retail industry says.. there e-toll accounts are millions and that filters down to the consumer.

      Yob Vas - 2014-11-05 14:47

      eish, we the ANC are not responsible for anything bad, unless it is something good, then THAT we will take full credit for, does anyone have any examples so that we can make a leest ?

      Stefan Van Der Spuy - 2014-11-05 15:23

      Let's hope he is Acting Director General for a very short time period...

      Cynic Martian - 2014-11-05 16:50

      He's right, it has no economic. That's because I refuse to pay it!

      TheOldCynical - 2014-11-05 17:14

      They build the highways for the soccer world cup. The world cup should have paid for it. The soccer bosses and ministers got huge bonuses and told each other how good the cup was. Now we have to pay for roads that South Africa could not afford in the first place.

      Ian Flack - 2014-11-05 17:49

      where does he get R1.50 from?

  • Renaud Dehainaut - 2014-11-05 13:45


  • Silas Mapuroma - 2014-11-05 13:55

    ANC MPs never study the implications of their Tender-System. It Enrich ANC-MPs and leave us poor. I have to ask more money from my Employer to be able to pay E-Tolls and the Employer has to increase service costs to clients, Then???

      Made-inthe South - 2014-11-05 14:02

      And the price of basic food like bread increase as well because of transport cost because of e-trolls

      Werner Nel - 2014-11-05 14:10

      But 62% of the people said yes!

      sxp - 2014-11-05 14:36

      People who vote ANC does the same evil, they do not think.

  • Made-inthe South - 2014-11-05 14:04

    E-trolls,arms deal and the coming R1 Trillion Russian nuclear deal have something in common.It is how ZANC is making money out of us.Politicians take their cut and 10% goes to ZANC as a party.The only way to stop it,is to not pay for it

  • Claire A Ingram - 2014-11-05 14:09

    And let's pass the buck . . . go!

  • Terrence Schwartz - 2014-11-05 14:13

    It is a problem for US, maybe not for YOU - Vilana - Check the prices at the Supermarket for a start, then go to the butcher, baker, candlestick maker.

  • Plastiek Spies - 2014-11-05 14:18

    Clearly he does not understand economics! When nput costs go up the price the consumer pays goes up. Economy 101.

      Nthabiseng Nthabi - 2014-11-05 14:38

      You really want to talk economics to people led by a person who didn't even reach high school?

      dclangley - 2014-11-05 14:39

      When our commander in thief has a grade 6 these simple concepts wont be understood

      Made-inthe South - 2014-11-05 14:50

      @dc Langley.Its grade 3.not grade6

      Roger Pacey - 2014-11-05 17:47

      Agreed. He is trying to suggest that there is NO effect of e-tolls on inflation, which is patently false. He is also suggesting that price inflation is driven by profiteering by retailers without substantiating it.

  • Mahomed Ismail - 2014-11-05 14:30

    This stupid, dumb idiot should go back to school and demand the school fees he never paid. Eish the clowns we put up with. ...

  • Phillip Marchant - 2014-11-05 14:33

    Who would have cared a hoot if it WAS an 'E-tolls problem', Mr Fool? It is precisely that it is a CONSUMER PROBLEM, which is why your canny idea to further self enrich your puppet masters at the expense of those 'consumers' has failed! Have they not stolen enough already?

  • Egler Bare - 2014-11-05 14:35

    Besides your stupidity there is no R1.50 gantry.

  • sxp - 2014-11-05 14:35

    No contract no payment due. Even there adds say it; register and pay, which leads also to "Do not register and do not pay."

  • Nthabiseng Nthabi - 2014-11-05 14:36

    Blah blah! No amount of discussions, excuses, feedbacks, reviews, whatever else you people say will make us pay! E-tolls not our problem either!

      Henry Kruger - 2014-11-05 18:10

      Waiting for these dweebs to come arrest me and charge me. Make me an e-criminal. Eish. :)

  • drsparky - 2014-11-05 14:36

    Where do they get these clowns?

      Melanie Slyper - 2014-11-05 14:48

      Spawn of the ANC! All = Dumb

      Roger Pacey - 2014-11-05 17:50

      The Transport Department's acting DG would be a political appointment. It follows that his goal is his own political advancement, not the public good.

  • Bradly Minnaar - 2014-11-05 14:36


  • amadeus.geldenhuys - 2014-11-05 14:37

    Similarly it is not our problem if you don't get your e-toll money

  • Graham Johnson - 2014-11-05 14:38

    There would be no place within the ANC for an honest person! The blatent lies, denials & corruption are proof of this.

  • Herman Booysen - 2014-11-05 14:38

    How can this argument be one of an acting director general, surely their must be someone that had or can explain to him\her something about economics and perhaps the impact of tariff\taxes on the economy and the multiplier effect.

      Roger Pacey - 2014-11-05 17:51

      He's a politician, playing politics, not a business person.

  • Melanie Slyper - 2014-11-05 14:40

    What a joke - Lord please help me hahahahah - Crock of Cr*P

  • Bradly Minnaar - 2014-11-05 14:47

    We aint paying clowns

  • tony.ribeiro.77 - 2014-11-05 14:48

    When last was mr vilane close to a gantry? I think the cheapest truck fare is over the R80!!!! And I stand to be corrected!!??

  • Nitro Nori - 2014-11-05 14:48

    Yes Sir, you are correct it is not just e-tolls. We have a defunct rail system so road transportation is all we have. Also your fuel levy ever increases with no justification during every mini budget and even when crude prices increase. The oil price dropped on average 13% over November yet our fuel adjustment is just 3% when the currency was stable if not stronger. And yes our retial market is not the most honest as prices never drop on basic goods but if your ministry provides a platform for them, anyone will take advantage of an opportunity. Please do not treat your citizens as "dummies" as the same can thus be percieved of you and the department when you do not justify any statement with hard and logical facts.

  • Melanie Slyper - 2014-11-05 14:50

    We were using the Highways before Sanral came along....

  • Renee Marais - 2014-11-05 14:50

    Are these people imbeciles? Cause and effect. When something costs you more to produce, transport and sell the price will go up. . .

  • Rudolf Jahn - 2014-11-05 14:55

    I wont pay for the ANC's stupidity!!!! You can collect e-tolls from the idiots who voted for you.

  • Warren Gates - 2014-11-05 14:56

    I'm actually starting to think this minister is in Grade 3

  • Jaco Jansen - 2014-11-05 14:57

    Where do they find these clowns?? It doesn't take a rocket scientist to figure out that the cost of E-Toll will be passed on to consumers through increased prices in goods. Transport companies can't simply absorb the hundreds of thousands of Rands in e-tolls they have to pay every month.

  • Peter Webb - 2014-11-05 14:57

    Bull sht, the moment zuma signed it into law, the transporters put their prices up and soon after the prices in the shops also increased.

      Erwin de Ruiter - 2014-11-06 08:32

      The moment e-toll rumours were spreading - five years ago... certain big brands already pushed their prices up - just look at Licqui-fruit. Five years ago we were paying R7.50 for a litre of fruit juice - it now averages at R18 and climbing!

  • Maketela Maleka - 2014-11-05 14:59

    not are problem either, if we don't pay

      Jaco Wium - 2014-11-05 15:04

      Yes, but it's about the food retailers who (regrettably) do pay. Not to mention the convenient excuse afforded to charge higher prices, no matter who pays or doesn't pay e-toll fees.

  • Jaco Wium - 2014-11-05 15:01

    And still the ANC just can't understand that the population has members who can think for themselves - well, the 38%, that is.

  • Derek Chapman - 2014-11-05 15:03

    SANRAL just keep on spewing sewerage when they open their traps

  • Ze Don - 2014-11-05 15:11

    Let's try and explain this to this moron. Using tomato sauce as an example: Sauce: tomatoes, sugar, vinegar & spices. Bottle: sand & lie. Top: steel, paint & plastic. Label: paper, ink & glue. Box: cardboard, ink & glue. Only the sauce is made by the supplier so all the materials and products must be transported, usually by truck. So before it is transported to the shop for sale, it's travelled through gantries 19 times. If we use 5c per item transported we're already talking about 95c per bottle. This cost will be transferred directly to us the consumers. Then they expect us to believe that tolls have no effect on inflation?

  • Lynn Hugo - 2014-11-05 15:16

    Arrogance knows no bounds. Fork the poor.

  • Johan Nothnagel - 2014-11-05 15:20

    Yip, not an e-toll problem.........blame this on apartheid as well....

  • Alan Robertson - 2014-11-05 15:23

    Uncaring callous attitude to the poor: proudly brought to you by the anc

  • Andre Grove - 2014-11-05 15:23

    They are Dumb and deaf we will not pay!!!

  • Leroy Reynolds - 2014-11-05 15:33

    I repeat, what has and is happening to all the money generated by fuel levies, current gantries/tolls and our general licensing fees? Why must the amounts keep being added to complete the same jobs, more people use the roads, more taxes received....I cannot understand why they think this problem is not corruption related. Dont take us for fools!

      JD Koekemoer - 2014-11-05 15:47

      It's been lost.

  • Roddy Jardim - 2014-11-05 15:38

    Lol 1.50 the example he gave was as pathetic as his explanation.

  • Ralph Siphiwe Nongqayi - 2014-11-05 15:44

    Well its not my problem that u implemented e tolls without proper consultation, btw i am not paying u a cent...

  • John November - 2014-11-05 15:59

    What a laugh, and this is just one example of how bright our ministers are, haha. I think he should rather keep his mouth closed. Of course all prices will go up with e-tolls, what would you expect, the cost of doing business has increased, that margin needs to made up somewhere, people's salaries then need to be increased as inflation and now e-tolls has made it so that people don't have sufficient spending. Thus public spending takes a dive, prices as well as inflation go up. Please send these ministers for Economics 101, even grade 6 economics will do the thing.

      Roger Pacey - 2014-11-05 17:54

      With a 30% pass, I doubt that grade 6 economics would suffice. It would mean he doesn't know 70% of the subject material

  • Brian Nobin - 2014-11-05 16:48

    I'm not the least bit surprised by what Vilana says. Spokesmen for IDIOTS INCORPORATED (IQ) Ltd. say all the right things to impress their sponsors and patrons.

  • Pietie Philander - 2014-11-05 17:05

    What an idiot! Affirmative action

  • Bertus Pretorius - 2014-11-05 17:07

    Apartheid is to blame.

  • coenraad.vaneeden.5 - 2014-11-05 18:40

    And still I will.not pay

  • Ledger Barnard Colleen - 2014-11-05 18:48

    I repeat, we not pay, meet till jesus comes, we cant afford it, we not paying.

  • Mark Austin - 2014-11-05 20:32

    Sanral bunch of dumpasses. Your costs have an inpact on everything

  • Bobby Muller - 2014-11-05 20:34

    Yawn ........

  • Kobus Pienaar - 2014-11-06 06:46

    ANC still having their heads in the sand on e-tolls. They think that if they pretend there is no problem, then there is no problem.

  • Mouna Cox - 2014-11-06 11:16

    Pay bills before looking at next projects, why put us in debts! you have resources to fund a nuclear deal we have survived without for million years, well, you can have it, we dont care, but first PAY YOUR E-tolls bill and stop putting them on us government!. we aying levies, taxes and everything for crying out loud. As it is, working is nolonger enjoyable as all our moneys are deducted by you!

  • arthur.salvado - 2014-11-06 16:09

    Quite right. Don't blame e-toll. I don't pay e-toll so I won't complain. I'll be happy to pay a fuel levy ONCE THEY PAY BACK THE STOLEN BILLIONS. Yes, I did say BILLIONS. NOW GIVE BACK THE MONEY

  • Bradley Duncan - 2014-11-20 10:26

    Blithering idiot!!!

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