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Pay disparities persist - Zuma

2012-10-30 14:41

Cape Town - Census 2011 results show the black majority remains worst affected by poverty, unemployment, and inequality, President Jacob Zuma said on Tuesday.

Zuma accepted the results during an official handover by Statistician General Pali Lehohla in Pretoria.

The census reveals that blacks earn significantly less than their coloured, Indian, and white counterparts.

The average household income in South Africa has more than doubled the past decade.

In 2001, South African households earned on average R48 000, which had increased to R103 204 by October last year.

"Black African-headed households were found to have an average annual income of R60 613 in 2011," the census statistical release revealed.

White households earned on average about six times more than blacks.

"White-headed households had the highest average household income at R365 134 per annum."

The average coloured household made about R112 000 a year, and Indian households just over R250 000.

As expected, households in Gauteng earned more than those in the rest of the country, raking in about R156 243 a year on average, followed by the Western Cape with R143 460.

"Census 2011 found that Limpopo remained the province with the lowest average annual household income at R56 844, followed by the Eastern Cape, where the average was R64 539."

Commenting on the results Zuma said: "These figures tell us at the bottom of the rung is the black majority who continue to be confronted by deep poverty, unemployment, and inequality, despite the progress that we have made since 1994."

Zuma noted that access to basic services such as piped water, electricity and refuse removal had more than doubled since 1994.

"However, much remains to be done to further improve the livelihoods of our people, especially in terms of [the] significant disparities that still exist between the rich and poor," he said.

Zuma said the National Development Plan, the blueprint for development in the country, would help the government achieve better outcomes.

"Government departments must now use this information wisely in planning for the extension of services mentioned in the National Development Plan," Zuma said.

Comments
  • george.outremer - 2012-10-30 14:48

    Education, education, education.

      richard.hipkin - 2012-10-30 14:50

      Whites also start and own more companies.

      John.Yossarian22 - 2012-10-30 14:52

      Yes, yes, yes!

      richard.hipkin - 2012-10-30 14:52

      Whites also average 2 children per household. Whites also do not have to pay thousands of rands to a sangoma to cure an illness that a medical doctor can do for 300 bucks.. It is all about education. One miner on SABC news demanding 16,000 rand said she wants that much because she has seven children... erhem.

      Rabbler.Rouser - 2012-10-30 14:57

      That must highlight the glaring failures of the ANC government. They promised 5 million 'decent jobs' by 2014. It was splashed all over their election manifesto in 2009.

      bruce.williams.1044186 - 2012-10-30 14:59

      He makes it sounds as though he is surprised. How can this chasm close when the education system is such a shambles. He wants to spend R200 Million on his little village when this can be used for better things such as education and general growth. What an idiot!!

      frank.vankaapstad - 2012-10-30 14:59

      Yes, the ANC loves drawing the divide along racial lines so that it can increase support for it's racist policies. Perhaps that stat should be looked at from an education perspective. You will most likely see roughly the same sort of results, but at least the root of the problem is highlighted to the nation. It isn't about black and white, it is educated and uneducated. By enforcing BBBEE upon the nation (which is a racist policy by definition) you are not solving the issue. It just reinforces the idea that white people should hand money to black people in return for nothing. This is not progress, it is racism.

      rbphiri - 2012-10-30 15:03

      The figures all boil down to education. "Census 2011 found that Limpopo remained the province with the lowest average annual household income at R56 844". If text books were delivered, maybe than more people would be educated and change the current figures drastically. Another reason why black people bring in less money is because we depend a lot on social grants instead of becoming self sufficient by being enterpreneurs. Zuma said the National Development Plan, the blueprint for development in the country, would help the government achieve better outcomes...Oooh yes MR President, we can clearly see the outcome with you mansion in Nklanda.

      ebon.geist - 2012-10-30 15:07

      Can't stress the link between poverty and children enough. It boggles the mind that after nearly 20 years the government still isn't doing more to promote RESPONSIBLE family planning. Having more children than you can afford is the usual fate of the destitute and uneducated. These people are unable to educate their children, and as a result their children will grow up destitute and uneducated. It's a vicious cycle which would be a lot easier to break if government: a) recognised the problem; b) created public awareness of the problem; c) took active steps to create a programme to assist its people in remedying the problem. It would also help a lot if our leader wasn't a terrible example of irresponsible family planning (21 kids!!!).

      clint.thorpe - 2012-10-30 15:32

      I think everyone is missing the big picture here too. These figures are based on 4 million whites (who are mostly educated) versus 40 million blacks (who are mostly uneducated). Regardless of race, if you took a group like this in any country, I am sure the minority would always come out tops. Fact is there are more blacks, which means there is a greater portion of the poor that is black, which in turn means you earn less. Once again News24 publishes so as to antagonise one group ...

      wwrer.ww - 2012-10-30 15:33

      50% of blacks are unemployed, 10% of whites are unemployed. So that means 50% of blacks are not getting an income, while 10% of whites are not getting an income. So whose job is it to create jobs? You the government is the one that is responsibility for inequality. MR. PRESIDENT. If you don't create jobs for the 50% of black people they will never catch up - because they don't earn an income. You're responsible for jobs. Not the whites.

      willem.vanrensburg.562 - 2012-10-30 15:46

      Well, now I suppose we will get screwed even more by their stupid BEE and AA, chommy chommy, comrades only policy. I just hope that they include the coloureds and Indians this time, so that they too can realise what a bunch of losers we have in parliament...crazy country..Oi

      jaco.bruwer.73 - 2012-10-30 16:02

      Education is sent the problem. over population is one major problem. if u swith the population around u wil have differant stats. swap white population with black population. if u do this u wil have the following result. White = 41 million with a 50% jobless statistic because they are the the majority. Black People = 4.59 or was is 5.59 million with a 10% jobless statistic because they are not the majority. U only need 5.59 million black jobs to have a 0% jobless statistic. According to the current Census there are 20.5 million jobs for blacks (50% op black are employed) and only 5.03 million white jobs. For every white person, 4 black people are employed. Then u have an average growth for blacks of 15% and 7% for whites. that is double the amount of whites. u can the state in the near future u wil have 82 million blacks to 11 million whites. there will always be more blacks unemployed because of mas majority.

      lwazi.zibi.7 - 2012-10-30 16:10

      Yes Yes Yes... But how do you go to higher education when that salary you earn can only cover the basic needs of the house... Changed the earning scale and see our intelligent is a Black person... If out of the little we earn we can hold a house... just imagine... it is easy to says "education" when the Trust Funds are leaking Millions from Grandpa and Grandma...Because my Grandpa and Grandma were trying to sort out South Africa to be a better country for all...

      SarelJBotha - 2012-10-30 17:29

      Education per-se is not the answer. It is education in the right subjects and fields. Do you really think all these people with degrees who are out of work studied engineering, geology or such tough degrees? Nope, BA languages, BA political shyte, BA art...wake up, this is the real problem.

      juannepierre - 2012-10-30 18:00

      @Iwazi I went to a government school where the classes were split in three based on ones marks. The middle class was fair with all races but the dumbest class was filled with black scholars while the smartest class had only two black guys. It's not higher education, just the tenacity to do the work that is the problem. I'll tell you a secret, you can learn the stuff yourself, it's called a text book, so long as you can read you can learn. I'll admit that being white has it's economic privileges if you admit that being black has it's lazy privileges...?

      jeremy.forbes.1293 - 2012-10-30 18:11

      Whites are proportionally such a small section of the population that to compare incomes on a like for like basis produces a skewed statistical picture. It would have been more accurate and interesting to compare the number and pay levels of the highest 20% of black earners with that of white earners. It would have demonstrated the massive growth of the black middle class, a very good thing, but I'm not sure our government is entirely comfortable with. It takes away the old chesnut of blaming the whites.

  • fazel.bolley - 2012-10-30 14:48

    You earn what you work for- No such thing as a free lunch.

      Eterni80 - 2012-10-30 15:08

      except if you work for the ANC then everything is free..

      kolobe.mzansi.7 - 2012-10-30 20:14

      of course non of these whites will have apartheid in their vocab

  • charl.malan.12 - 2012-10-30 14:49

    And I wonder whose fault it is that the masses are still in the position they are in? But blame apartheid if it makes you feel better Jacob Zuma!!

  • mbuti.manopole.3 - 2012-10-30 14:52

    True

  • peter.jefferies.90 - 2012-10-30 14:52

    WOW! So Zuma needed to wait for a census to see the obvious!! The mans stupidity is endless! The solution?? Stop stealing all of the tax payers money so that you can use it for important things!! Also, one thing that is never mentioned is that white south africans might earn the most but we also contribute the most to tax which runs the country and keeps the ANC's pockets flush with money. I would like to see the stats on tax and see how many people in each ethnic group who have jobs and actually pay their taxes! I think you would see that the majority of tax paying citizens are white people.

      Rabbler.Rouser - 2012-10-30 15:00

      When you speak from the kingdom of Nkandla (courtesy of the tax paying subjects) any fairy tales are possible. Let them eat cake.

  • nikondaniel - 2012-10-30 14:53

    This coming from the man who's getting funding in excess of R200 million for his village?!?!

      jannie.snyman.96 - 2012-10-30 14:59

      ABSOLUTELY -if you are a politician then evry other race in this country can only dream of the money earned by this mostly useless to society specie

      john.fourie.18 - 2012-10-30 15:02

      And R 20 million for his legal fees against Zapiro. I forgot how much he got to weasel out of the criminal charges against him.

      gerrit.snyman1 - 2012-10-30 15:30

      He did not do badly for himself. In 3 years he moved from a person who could not pay his own legal fees to a person that lives in a multi million Rand mansion.

  • lwazi.zibi.7 - 2012-10-30 14:55

    It make me sick to see and hear Zuma way "Government departments must now use this information wisely in planning for the extension of services mentioned in the National Development Plan," He and his cadres are the one who lifted the earning numbers because Black South Africa annual income is at R96000 pa.

  • John.Yossarian22 - 2012-10-30 14:56

    Echoing George.outremer's comment. Transfer of knowledge is cheap, as the giver retains he/she had before the transfer. But then the recipient must be willing to listen and learn.

  • riaan.louw.18488 - 2012-10-30 14:57

    2 words: education + entrepreneurship....

  • mark.ross.779 - 2012-10-30 14:59

    I don't know how much water this holds but could it not be that post apartheid the whites who had access to better education then haven't lost those skills and have gained a further 18 years experience since 1994. It's logical that they earn the most. They are at the top or nearing the tops of their trade. Also, it said that the emerging black market was growing very quickly, which again makes sense. So its not a case of 'ah, the whites still have it all etc'. It's working as it should. We are moving forward. As time goes on and more educated people enter the workforce, statistically it should even out (well, that would be if we could sort out the education of the youth). My one concern is, what do black guys who judge whites for this stat want them to do? stop working? stop being productive? stagnate to let them catch up? rather than cut down the people doing the work, build up those at the bottom who can't get the skills. So rather than crap on the whites for earning, crap on government for not getting textbooks to schools so that the black youth can earn. It makes no sense for productivity to slide just so you can go to bed a little happier.. When will people realise that Joe Smith selling his stock and making lots of cash is actually helping the country (taxes, jobs, FDI, stimulating the economy), as opposed to a the corrupt fat cats getting tenders and embezzling that cash, not paying taxes etc. Your anger is misguided!! And give equality time! Quick fixes don't work

  • dean.hart.58 - 2012-10-30 15:00

    Just proves that the bee model doesn't work

  • kobus.hattingh.5 - 2012-10-30 15:01

    Well then in that case my pay slip says I'm a coloured?

  • Daniel Mah - 2012-10-30 15:01

    so whats the solution shower head

  • johan.jacobs.5680 - 2012-10-30 15:03

    What does the results say about the black, super advantaged few.

  • paul.malherbe.7 - 2012-10-30 15:04

    when is africa gonna figure out that her culture of looking at creating as many kids as POSSIBLE AS an asset IS NOT CONDUCIVE TO PROSPERITY? HAS IT NOT BEEN PROVEN OVER AND OVER AND OVER AGAIN IN COUNTRIES LIKE ETHIOPIA THAT IT AINT WORKING! AND NOW I WILL BE TOLD THEY'RE NOT EDUCATED!!! YEAH!!!!!! WHY? AND THAT BRINGS US BACK TO THE POINT THAT U CANNOT EXPECT OTHERS WHO TAKE FAMILY PLANNING SERIOUSLY TO PAY FOR YOUR IRRESPONSIBLE MULTIPLICATION!!!!! PART OF THE EDUCATION IS BEING TOLD TO HAVE LESS CHILDREN, WHICH MEANS INTERFERING WITH THE CULTURE, I MEAN THE LEADERS R SETTING THE "EXAMPLE" FOR CRYING OUT LOUD!!!

  • Eterni80 - 2012-10-30 15:07

    just like the amount our idiot president earns against what he's worth in terms of performance/output. 200 million rand on an 'upgrade' 500 million on road 'upgrades' 20 million for legal fees. http://www.iol.co.za/news/politics/nkandla-road-claims-rubbished-1.1400473#.UI_QceEqAgI hey JZ F U.

  • vivian.harris.73 - 2012-10-30 15:09

    Lmfu....of course they worst off you idiot! That's because you and the ANC are stealing the money, filling your pockets and wasting billions on yourself. You just got R20million for legal fees and R250million for upgrades to your household.

  • gvangreunen - 2012-10-30 15:10

    Because BEE & AA have forced white people to work harder and be more entrepreneurial and ultimately earn more whilst the black population sits on it's backside waiting for hand-outs! Furthermore, the white youth do not burn down their schools and throw their books into the fire when they have some arbitrary gripe with the system. They knuckle down and work harder to prove a point as they know how important education is - something that you, Mr President, should perhaps also have done!

  • renier.lubbe.7 - 2012-10-30 15:11

    It is easy to distort statistics. Show us the formula used to determine this statistic!

  • mastersvoice - 2012-10-30 15:12

    It is time the ANC and their "leader" Zuma started to face facts - pay disparities exist due to skills disparities. Skills disparities exist due to manipulation of Matric and graduation results to create the impression that Black pupils and students are being educated. BEE and AA have also not done Black folks any favours in the long run. As long as this status quo persists, black South Africans are destined to remain among the lowest income earning population groups. Zuma should really be saying: "Blacks are not earning what they should have been earning after 18 years of democracy. The ANC is to blame."

      SarelJBotha - 2012-10-30 17:35

      Read the Bell Curve.That book tells the real story of why some are richer than others. It's not easy to accept but the truth needs telling.

  • WantrisPkc - 2012-10-30 15:14

    And what about the ANC cream... that takes and steal form their own

      arthur.salvado - 2012-10-30 15:23

      And from all others may I add . They think that they own the monies paid by the very kind tax payers. They are entrusted with our money to provide services. Instead they steal it and we give them more. Now that's very very benevolent of us tax payers. Maybe things will change.

  • mart.botha - 2012-10-30 15:24

    The 'haves' would have a chance of bringing the 'have nots' up to speed IF they weren't outnumbered 10 to 1. It's simple mathematics.

  • mrova.blaza - 2012-10-30 15:25

    Does every article that get's published on News 24 have to be about race.

  • bobbie.crowther - 2012-10-30 15:26

    Based on the comment made of President Zuma in this article, it is assumed that all other things are equal and black people still earn less. All things referring to Whites and Blacks being on the same education and skill-level. If that is the case, Mr President, then I agree.

  • warren.deeves - 2012-10-30 15:28

    So the average black family's income has increase from R43k to R103k over the last ten years. Just over doubled. It would be interesting to know how much living expenses have gone up during the same ten years.

  • Michael - 2012-10-30 15:28

    There are white people who are making a difference in this country, and unfortunately there are many of you whos job is to complain and throw insults at Zuma here at news24; when will that end? Look you will complain for a very long time, this man is here to stay.

  • impi.masondo - 2012-10-30 15:29

    the law must take affect because we cant have economic freedom

      BigChiefPlumbPudding - 2012-10-30 15:58

      Economic freedom already exists, as well as AA, Bee etc, but the fact is you and millions like you still just don't make the grade. Everything is actually in your favour more so than towards Whites, yet you still can't cut it.

      SarelJBotha - 2012-10-30 17:36

      The law cannot make an idiot or lazy bumpkin free, nor can it change anything in anyone's DNA.

      maylani.bezuidenhout - 2012-10-31 08:43

      You have it, but you just don't know what to do with it - read, read, read. Network, network network. Get a move on, time waits for no one!

  • anton.coetzee.5 - 2012-10-30 15:30

    Mr Zuma, compare your Cost to Country to that of F W or Mandela, then we can talk about disparities.

  • johan.verster.90 - 2012-10-30 15:31

    I would like to see how much the "well connected" black minority are now earning compared to to 2001-if the census figures are correct it means that the "new democracy" did not mean anything for the black majority,which means that history is just repeating itself,this also happened in all the other African countries where the "freedom fighters" came into power.

  • darryl.maze1 - 2012-10-30 15:31

    Mr President!! Hows about you and your corrupt government drop your over paid salaries. Stop blaming the whites, coloureds and indians. Its not our fault we are working hard to keep this country afloat. Tell your ppl to stop having so many babies and wives. If you all wanna have so many wives and kids on small salaries(except you mr president cause you get all the tax payers money to pay for your wives and kids) well its your own fault

  • Muffin_man_can - 2012-10-30 15:37

    Thats it zoom zoom, ride that horsy and continue the racial devide to secure your rule.. Question is what have you done about alleviating poverty, why do you continue to steal millions of rands each week if you are so concerned?

  • sean.odonnell.1466126 - 2012-10-30 15:41

    Just because you Mr Zuma get paid (notice i didn't say 'earn') R2m plus per annum, plus (extreme) benefits with only a Grade 4 education, does not mean the rest can get a livable salary with the same or less education. You Mr Zuma epitomize the expression "everything for free" and then blame us for the disparity in incomes. It is therefore not for the skilled to earn less, it is for unskilled to catch up and if your Gov was educating the masses as you are obligated to do, it would go a long way to narrowing the skills gap and as such the earning gap.

      Grant Wykerd - 2012-10-30 16:29

      I could not have said it better however, earlier someone used a fools way, together with profanity to express a point that I wish to put right, unless someone did so after this post; President Zuma, how can you be so obvious in as much as, encouraging racial divide by using uneducated statistics, derived from uneven odds in racial economic status that in no way can be deemed logical! For your dream to realise WITHOUT increasing job opportunities wherein the answer actually lies (please open your eyes), all those holding qualified positions (be it professional or experience based) would be required to swap jobs with Blacks and THIS WILL WORK, RIGHT....!??? - I mean the government in its entirety, bar a few good ones, have proven that you can enter into an unknown field of EXPERTISE, realise how hard it actually is to carry out, so blame someone else or set them up or even start a conspiracy theory and after everyone forgets about your useless...ness, ultimately re-write the book of skills required for your own job and its subordinates, thus allowing less intelligent candidates in that will never realise how poorly you function at your job at hand. It has been proven over and over that no legal or constitutional regulation has managed to stop such incompetence from managing ALL TAX PAYERS MONEY. Stop being so obvious and take heed of the world and its lessons already learnt as you make me sad if I think how barbaric your view point is - THE WHEEL has already been invented, no need to reinvent, only IMPROVE and by that I mean, your way of thinking is to reinvent the wheel, however, square it must be and that's that. We the TAX PAYERS who pay you and the Government at large will never stay stupid long enough for a Rwanda Genocide. Pleases just think or get better advisors and make a difference.....................

  • johan.erskine - 2012-10-30 15:41

    Perhaps it's because they are 48 Million and we are only 3 Million.. Seriously.. And yet we're the only country where affirmative action works the other way around...

  • neilza - 2012-10-30 15:42

    Look who goes on strike all the time. So it will stay that way if they don't change

  • GordonMck - 2012-10-30 15:43

    Zuma said: "These figures tell us at the bottom of the rung is the black majority who continue to be confronted by deep poverty, unemployment, and inequality, despite the progress that we have made since 1994." More like because of the "Progress" made since '94. progress: BFFEE = Best Friend Forever Economic Empowerment.

  • lebogang.petlele - 2012-10-30 15:43

    "Government departments must now use this information wisely in planning for the extension of services mentioned in the National Development Plan," Zuma said. Put the right people in those departments to do the job, not friends or in-laws..

  • cyril.laubscher - 2012-10-30 15:43

    Always going back to 1994, saying that access to facilities has doubled in 18 years is actually pretty poor Mr President, if you take all the money spent by the government on useless endeavours, expensive trips, corruption, and general misuse of funds you could have given access to millions more people. Education is obviously the key for employement, just look at Limpopo with the education crisis they are sitting as the lowest income group in the country. Are no alarms going off? I dont care which party is in power as long as they are doing the best to help this country and the people in it

  • jacques.smit - 2012-10-30 15:45

    Pitty alot of this census will be open to corruption like everything else cANCer. In our area the census people insisted that we fill out the forms with a pencil.. I refused and used a pen, tough, but makes you wonder how many people did use pencils, that can easily be modified again...

  • litha.luzipo - 2012-10-30 15:47

    What they say here is true. Thats what JZ does best. As always he takes time to prepare the speech highlighting inequalities. Unfortunately, He does the opposite when it comes to answering questions. Infact, he does not even answer. I'm still waiting for the tasked commission of enquiry on the Limpopo textbook saga. Eastern Cape education, the list is endless.

  • mike.langdon2 - 2012-10-30 15:53

    Do the figures show how much of the \household income\ is from a salary or from a government handout?

  • ntokozoe - 2012-10-30 15:53

    "Whites start and own more companies"(remember, this race is not a fair race, we never started on the same line. when whites were going to school, starting companies, we were fighting for freedom). Now we have arrived and we have a buying power. white business are slowly perishing and black people are slowly becoming industrialists and that is confirmed by a growing number of white people on the streets begging for food. things are slowly changing. in 2014 I predict, almost 50% of young black people will be job creators. dont worry Msholozi we are slowly getting there.

      mitch.dhooghe - 2012-10-30 16:07

      "we are slowly getting there".. Just a question.....Do you agree with the R250 million spent on nkandla when u still see so much poverty around you? How can you still believe that your president is doing his best for his people and country? Surely you gotta realize something is not right.......or are u to blind to see it?

      ntokozoe - 2012-10-30 16:44

      @Mitch.dhooghe, just a question...Dou you agree that we never started in the same line? I dnt agree with Zuma spending 250 million in his own residences but that does not mean I must hurl insults and call him names and also call black voters. surely something is not right. it is not right for white people to continue enjoy the fruits of apartheid while we suffer the effects. BEEE and EEE effects are showing and have helped the black population to get profesional jobs otherwise we would never have matched white people in terms of skills given the circumstances. dont turn a blind eye on that becoz it is the reality.

      mitch.dhooghe - 2012-10-30 17:14

      I hear what you saying,. I'm fully aware that transformation needs to take place and things could not continue like they did pre '94. But surely you have to agree that the systems are being abused by those in power. It's clear for all to see that the rich are getting richer while the poor remain where they are. Our country will never evolve to its full potential if this doesn't change. Logic tells me that I CANT accept millions on parties, R250 million rand homes, 20 wives living of the state etc etc, while the majority suffer! Maybe I'm missing something.......and it's not about race, it's about the abuse and self-enrichment of those in power!

      SarelJBotha - 2012-10-30 17:41

      Wrong. When whites built Rome , you built mudhuts or lived in caves. You have been behind from long ago and that was no white man's fault. When whites came to SA, you have not even had a though about the wheel. Thus again, not our fault and so I can mention many more things.

  • lex.holmes2 - 2012-10-30 15:55

    If ANC returned all the billions of R's that they have squandered through corruption, fraud and theft it would make a serious dent in the disparity. I think the first contribution should come from Zoomer himself. Arms scandal and Nkandla just for starters. He can set the example instead of spewing crap ever time he opens his mouth.

  • johan.harlaar.9 - 2012-10-30 15:55

    This is actually political hogwash. If you compare the no of black against whites in the same jobs then there are probably more blacks earning the higher incomes than whites.

  • theresa.pickering.1 - 2012-10-30 16:01

    The census also found that 60% of our children don't finish school. Could this be the bottom line to the income differences!!\r\nAlso so many orphans yet the adoption process is so ridiculous!\r\nThen of course our presidents salary and those of execs in this country. Maybe they should give their 13th cheques and bonuses in 2013 to the over worked state medical and police employees !!!

  • jannie.kotze.7 - 2012-10-30 16:02

    Zoompie, tell us how much you pocket each year, including all your perks such as entertainment, traveling, accommodation, the so called key point security that you enjoy because you and your government are responsible for the crime that spiralled out of control. And do not forget that your total package is us whites' taxes that you abuse. Also give us an insight in how much your fellow useless minsters get. The poor blacks that do not make any progress is also a direct result of your lies and empty promises who unfortunately have not wake up yet still keeps you in power. Once the racist policies, i.e. BEE, BBBEE. AA, EE, TRANSFORMATION ETC.is scraped and people regardless of colour can live out their talents with no restrictions on race, but merit only, than all will prosper that is not waiting for hand outs. Communism and socialism are the corner stone of poverty and dictatorship.

  • michael.freeman.16752 - 2012-10-30 16:06

    Why? Because you and all your clowns have taken all their money.

  • peter.l.morris.3 - 2012-10-30 16:20

    If the current Government stops stealing, overspending and give jobs to their buddies who is incompetent and mis-use the taxpayers money, but it looks like it is the culture of the now government to not educate the masses

  • EricksonTL - 2012-10-30 16:21

    Indeed. Consider the following, however. Let's assume, for the sake of argument, that every white South African earned R1 - or about R4 million. Now divide that R4 million among the 40 million black South Africans out there - 10c each. Not hard to see that when you're dividing even equal earnings among vastly different sized groups, the averages are way different. In fact, given the above, one could say that as long as the average earning of a black South African was not less than 10% of the white South African, equality has been reached. Also, Mr. Pres and your commie buddies, you DO realise that say, a brain surgeon SHOULD earn more than a ditch digger, right? That's not discrimination - it's called FAIRNESS.

  • alan.mcnab.35 - 2012-10-30 16:23

    It all boils down to education , the will to become educated and the will to work ! Education also is a leader when it comes to working out how many people can be fed , sustained and educated to give them a 'fair' chance in the employment market .

  • jayce.manelo - 2012-10-30 16:31

    @pointblank chief your comment is so white i am black i have culture an hell i do pay for a sangoma that what make me a south African enough,if should should know how many white miners are earning big an their not even educated cant even write English, an u come an insult black people for paying a sangoma look at were u come from

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