Open your pockets for striking miners - Amcu
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Open your pockets for striking miners - Amcu

2014-04-16 05:30

Pretoria - The Association of Mineworkers Construction Union (Amcu) on Tuesday asked the government and the public for funds to help striking members in the platinum sector, who have gone nearly three months without pay.

Amcu members went on a strike 11 weeks ago at Anglo Platinum (Amplats) [JSE:AMS], Impala Platinum (Implats) [JSE:IMP] and Lonmin [JSE:LON], demanding a more than doubling of monthly wages to R12 500.

"We opened a strike fund in pursuance of a living wage for our members... we want as much money as we can raise," Amcu president Joseph Mathunjwa told reporters in Pretoria.

Mathunjwa declined to say if union funds had been depleted, but said the money would be used to "sustain" Amcu members as they were on strike under the "no work, no pay" principle.

The strike fund, which was opened on Monday, currently held R1m from Amcu and R50 000 from the union leaders and other members, he said.

The strike is costing the economy billions of rand in company revenues and salaries.

There is no end in sight for the strike as government-brokered talks have so far failed to seal an agreement between the unions and platinum producers, who say they cannot afford to meet the wage increase.

Mathunjwa said the employers and the unions met last week to discuss Amcu's demand. He said the companies were expected to give a response following the talks.

Comments
  • Terrence Schwartz - 2014-04-16 05:45

    What am I reading - you dont want to work for 3 months - and you expect handouts, you must be joking. Perhaps the petrol is a bit too expensive for the luxury cars you drive, my car is a 2001 Corolla.

      Fussed Anderson - 2014-04-16 06:03

      Sell all AMCU's assets, Gumtree will help. You made the call to strike, you made the call not to accept. DONT ASK US FOR HELP

      Tye Malone - 2014-04-16 08:06

      You choose to stand together, protest together, disrupt the economy together, now starve together.

      Tye Malone - 2014-04-16 08:10

      Im surprised AMCU isn't begging for money yet. With most of their members not earning any money, I'm sure they are also struggling to pay off their Merc's, helicopters and third and fourth homes.

      Cjay Thango - 2014-04-16 08:24

      I think at the back of all the huge revenue mining houses are loosing, AUTOMATION is probably a consideration now, these guys are really destabilizing the sector and it will get to a point where we feeling the effects of this else were at the same token why are the mining houses so reluctant to meet these demands half way, find a compromise, its not succumbing to threats/demands but its just really at the end of the day solving a business case impacting operations and cleary now one which is impacting shareholder's return......oh well we just have to wait and see

      Boaz Yarmarkov - 2014-04-16 08:40

      Dozens of factories that used to supply the mines have already closed down sending hundreds if not thousands of workers home - now unemployed. The chance of a factory reopening after bankruptcy is very small as usually a Chinese suppliers takes over when the mines reopen for business. The strike on the mine has affected millions of South Africans negatively, for the simple reason that the infighting between the unions has caused the demands to be ridicules. The one Union promising more then the other…It’s a game for the Unions… a game that has cost this economy way too many jobs. Let’s be fair - everyone wants and deserves a living wage - but what the violent strikers have asked for is unreasonable, is destroying the economy, and has cost many people their livelihood. Union leaders should be jailed for being the number two threat to job creation (after Zuma) in South Africa. The striking workers have lost. The Mines have lost. The thousands of suppliers to the mines have lost. The South African economy has lost. South Africa lost. China won.

      Jacob Majola - 2014-04-16 08:59

      We have not lost Boaz, I will support my brothers in this struggle. Together we will win this country back from western imperialism. Then we can all live in our own land and not a poor and oppressed.

      Freddie Miller - 2014-04-16 09:42

      No thanks. Those too dumb to think must feel.

      Japie JJ du Toit - 2014-04-16 12:33

      uh now I understand the term "sharing your wealth" I work - you strike - you ask for donation - I must give. Eish bru the price of beer and smokes gone up - cannot help. If you strike then you, strike because you believe in the cause - so then let the cause support you.

      TBang Bang - 2014-04-17 11:45

      Jacob, jy is DOM.

  • Dann Druff - 2014-04-16 05:52

    No Joseph Mathunjwa, take some of the union fee's you collected and give the workers money. There is no way on God's green earth that a striker will see a cent of my money

      Sickup Andfed - 2014-04-16 06:15

      I thought exactly that, pay your striking members like you should. In fact they should not be paying only a %age but full pay while on strike.

      Imagine Sense - 2014-04-16 08:19

      False prophet MaTHUGwa, just add another zero to your "demand". With R 125 000 per month they can earn back what they lost in no time.

  • Mthokozisi Sniper Myende - 2014-04-16 06:01

    4ward With Nationalisation of Mines..... Unlock The Chains Of Poverty Slavery!!!

      Brutus Roy - 2014-04-16 06:17

      You think you will become rich overnight if your mine is nationalised, think again. Stop allowing yourself to be used.

      Andrew Mackie - 2014-04-16 07:19

      How stupid can you get! Mines need working capital and importantly development capital to grow output. Firstly government does not have the capacity to operate mines least of all the finance. Investors will always move their money to gain the best return on the investment. In the case if SA the record of ROI on government run businesses this is sorely lacking and need look no further than SAA, SABC and Eskom to name but a few. So idiots who call for Nationalisation think again.

      Ruaan Van Der Merwe - 2014-04-16 07:57

      Wow!! You are not the wisest person out there, are you?? Lets destroy the economy and create a new Zimbabwe. Oh wait you think you will ger rich if the mines get nationalised??? Think again. Your goverment will get rich and the people will remain poor. Be it ANC or EFF they are all the same. Corrupt!!! They make these big promises to win the vote of people like you and in the end its you that still sits with nothing!!

      Nigel van Ysendyk - 2014-04-16 07:57

      dumb as a brick

      Tye Malone - 2014-04-16 08:08

      Why limit yourselves to R12500 per month, Nationalise the mines and you can all earn R100000 per month and free BMW's to all!

      Sydney Manyibane Oa Mazibu - 2014-04-16 08:34

      Only an idiot can post such a dump comment,those ppl s families r struggling as we speak yet u ppl r busy playing politics with their lives,this is a twiddle.

      Emelia Lawrenz Stanton - 2014-04-16 12:47

      Nationalisation equals NOT productivity. Producing something is productivity. offer something you can sell to someone who needs or wants it, in exchange for what you want - in other words an exchange of goods or services is what feeds, cloths, pays for education and whatever else you want. Hope I've put this in the plainest language possible.

      TBang Bang - 2014-04-17 11:37

      Do you even understand what you just wrote??

  • Marc Llewellyn Rule - 2014-04-16 06:04

    NO. NO WORK NO PAY!

  • Trevor Whitehead - 2014-04-16 06:09

    Go back to work,half a loaf is better than no loaf

      Jacob Majola - 2014-04-16 09:02

      I would rather starve so my children can have a future in this country than work another minute under this opression.

      Hugo McDonald - 2014-04-16 10:32

      Jacob....You do realise that your children will probably also be starving if you dont have work?

      Jacob Majola - 2014-04-16 10:57

      We all grow our own vegetables and mielies, we will never starve.

  • Brutus Roy - 2014-04-16 06:15

    Ha ha ha ha.

  • Wynand - 2014-04-16 06:26

    If AMCU acted in the interest of their members, there would have been a reasonable request for an increase, and no strike. AMCU is responsible and should feed its members. I do feel terribly sorry for the people in that they have been swindled into believing empty promises made by AMCU, and now they sit with empty stomachs. Just go back to work and get paid - that is how things work in reality.

  • rice.safari - 2014-04-16 06:26

    What? !!! Just choked on my coffee.

  • Thombela Ka Mjoli - 2014-04-16 06:26

    I just need acc no: to deposit that money

      Fortes Fortuna Adiuvat - 2014-04-16 07:34

      There is no medicine for you. Sorry.

      Nigel van Ysendyk - 2014-04-16 07:58

      ABSA 408887817 Fourways

      Tye Malone - 2014-04-16 08:08

      You have to have money to deposit money Thombela

      Deeked De Dose - 2014-04-16 09:11

      THombela The Account Number is 123 - 5324-6789 With Capitec bank, branch code 1432 Account Name - J Mathunjwa TRust

      Peter Boettger - 2014-04-18 11:40

      IS THAT YOUR CONSCIENCE ,YES GIVE SOME OF THE STOLEN MONEY TO YOUR BROTHERS

  • Clint Wall - 2014-04-16 06:30

    The blind leading the blind. Ps amcu members, this comment has nothing to do with blind people.

      Aron Makama - 2014-04-16 07:14

      Clint u're right look, these black pple are always being used,On toy-toy-e-e Zille put them on front and Where are Children of Zille and other White Africans Like her?

      Deeked De Dose - 2014-04-16 09:14

      Aron.... THe reason blacks are used is that there are so many of them. 44 years ago, Whites made up 38% of the population and (African) Blacks made 51%... Now the whites make up 11.5% and the blacks make up 82.3%...

  • Lassi MShini - 2014-04-16 06:42

    i will offer R25000 today b4 end of business hrs...

      Christopher Ackerman - 2014-04-16 15:44

      Show us the deposit slip, i doubt you have 25k if you have enough brains to earn 25k and give it to them

      Peter Boettger - 2014-04-18 11:43

      LASSI IS IT YOUR MONEY OR STOLEN MONEY YOU SEEM VERY QUICK TO HAND OUT

  • Pieter Theron - 2014-04-16 06:42

    Whaaaaaaaa !!!!! THANKS FOR MAKING MY DAY. WHAAAAAAAA. Thats one thing I got to say about Joseph, his got a sense of humour

  • Annie Saunders Grobbelaar - 2014-04-16 06:45

    You don't deserve a cent from the Public. The mines are going to closed down and every one of Joseph followers will be without a job, you caused SA to lose billions, go to you're presidents NKANDLA en take what you need, there are chickens, cattle, Jacob will have to give you some of his expensive suits to wear, you can swim in his fire pool watch movies in his theater, a clinic to look after your health, sleep on his bed and use his body guards. The public says you can, you and the public paid for every cent he has. Jacob will also give each one of you R1000.00 for your vote. That way you'll have everything you want without having to WORK !!!!

  • Lauren MacLeod - 2014-04-16 06:48

    You called for the strike, you pay them.

  • Jimmy James - 2014-04-16 06:54

    HOW MUCH DO YOU WANT AMCU......UNLIMITED FUNDS AVAILABLE...

  • Marieta Marx Grundling - 2014-04-16 06:58

    If you choose the action, you choose the consequences!

      Chris Faurie - 2014-04-16 07:48

      Cause and effect

  • Robert Clark - 2014-04-16 07:17

    Burning you house to indicate your unhappiness, and then begging for a new one because you are down on your luck. Its the same story in a different form.

  • Herbert Smith - 2014-04-16 07:19

    WHY ?????

  • Siyaxolisa Matomela - 2014-04-16 07:21

    Lol Mathunjwa now u showing that the mining cmpnies hv u by the balls ae this fool.

  • Hetty Oliver - 2014-04-16 07:22

    LOL! Get off your bloody arses and get back to work, no hand outs here I'm afraid. NO WORK, NO PAY! Then they wonder why the economy is failing and when they receive their ridiculous wages and the company cannot afford to keep them and are retrenched they don't understand why.

  • Scott Blane - 2014-04-16 07:24

    What we all seem to forget about is the collateral damage cause by these fools...the hundreds of companies that are closing down left right and center because the mines are not buying/using their products/services! Screw the mine employees, they are the least of the people that are suffering!

  • Altus Kirsten - 2014-04-16 07:25

    Starve or collect from Amcu.

  • Andrew Mackie - 2014-04-16 07:30

    The strike is a voluntary action and taking taxpayer money to pay strikers, is definitely not an action to be tolerated. Not only has government no funds for this, millions in taxes from both workers and company sales has been lost to the fiscus. Let these people get back to work as many have indicated that desire, so as to earn wages for food etc. Remember the AMCU leaders are not suffering the hardships here but the workers who are so intimidated and forced to remain away from work.

  • Tinus de Jager - 2014-04-16 07:45

    You e a bunch of idiots! The mines are going to mechanise to prevent crap like this in the future and while you are sitting on your rock in front of your shack you can then reminisce about the good old days. Maybe ask the anc for some handouts as the lot of you are asked to support them again.

  • Chris Faurie - 2014-04-16 07:45

    Why does AMCU not help. They are responsible. This is typical, none wants to take responsibility for their actions. You strike, its is no work no pay. What about the irreparable damage they have done to the economy, are they going to pay that back?

  • Ansie Fourie - 2014-04-16 07:48

    Gaan na Joseph se BB in Witbank. Bly op sy rekening daar.

  • Ruaan Van Der Merwe - 2014-04-16 07:54

    So you are destroying the economy and causing massive job losses due to companies that needs to restructure due to your strike. The mines made a decent offer yet you refused to take it and now you want money from the public???? Sorry I didnt get an increase this year due to your strike so there is no way in hell you will see a cent of my money!! The workers should go back to work so that they can provide for their families!! AMCU you are the worst union there is and you only care abour yourself and not your members

  • Magda Smith - 2014-04-16 07:55

    Mathunjwa said he had not called the strike and feigned surprise at those suggesting he was deliberately “starving” employees as a result of the prolonged strike. (Yeah right !!!! ) He also said Hunger has not been introduced by this strike. And .. If Ethiopia, considering the hunger in that nation, still exists, then 10 weeks (of strike) won’t kill us. (Yet him and his family/children lives in luxury) He said the strike fund is going to be opened to "pursue" the strike (lol so then how much is the members going to get out of that? ) He joked that Magara, Amplats CEO Chris Griffith and his Implats counterpart Terence Goodlace were having sleepless nights and were taking copious amounts of sleeping pills as they felt the “pinch of the strike”. “If they say they are not feeling the pinch they are lying.” The strike has cost the companies about R10bn in lost revenue and workers about R4.4bn in lost wages. (Who's wages ? Not his !! A joke ? I don't think so !!) And last but not least he said Our agenda will be decided by our members. Even the government cannot decide our agenda. ( But yet he still makes the decisions all by him self and ignore the pleas by the members that they want to go back to work !! ) So .... I rest my case !

  • Phathutshedzo Maisha - 2014-04-16 08:00

    They must just go back to work and get paid.

  • Malose-Nyatlo - 2014-04-16 08:04

    Bloody fools!

  • Ontlhabanetse Steve Baepile - 2014-04-16 08:05

    Please help no food,children no longer going to school because of transport money, burial policies lapsed and no money to buy bread.

  • Sisie Indola - 2014-04-16 08:10

    Haha - what crock is this. It was your choice Joseph Mathunjwa now you have to live with the consequences. This fund will be able to give each striking worker all of R14, wow and what can they get with that - a lof of bread - you Mister are living in a dream world all of your own. I bet they money is for you and your so called committee so that you can live in the manner that you are so getting used to. Go suck and egg!

  • Robert Moore - 2014-04-16 08:13

    go and ask JACOB ZUMA and the ANC for a hand out...they good at that.

  • I am not black or white I am South African - 2014-04-16 08:16

    The ugly truth is that within 24 hours you could fill every mine worker who is on strike with another person willing to do the job. This is the nature of a high unemployment rate of 30+% This is why Unions and Strike action do not fit the circumstances. You have an oversupply of job seekers and a Union demanding higher wages?? What should have happened in the last 20 years is a concerted effort by the ANC to create new jobs for the unemployed - but as we all know the focus by ANC leaders has been on enriching themselves and their cadres. Sadly, the average ANC supporter cannot see how they are being ripped off!!

  • Mkulu Mkulu - 2014-04-16 08:18

    Hahahahahahjahahahahahaha The bunch of idiots following Matengwhas Mafia. Welcome to the real world. Now think if the mines were nationalized there would be strikes at the drop of a hat and the mines would eventually collapse into a big hole. It has happened everywhere else where mines have been nationalized. Zambia for one.What makes the EFF and other idiots so confident they can make it work.They do not have any rocket scientists or mining engineers or for that matter anyone with a brain in their numbers.

  • Arcadia Jane - 2014-04-16 08:19

    WOW! You expect us to pay you money for sitting on your ass for who knows what and how long while your union boss gets rich! I work for my money - perhaps time you start doing the same... BUT i wont hire a single sould from a union that strikes on a whim!

  • Chesa Max - 2014-04-16 08:22

    You have decided to use the principle of "last man standing" on mining companies without a backup? It's a pity it isn't you who's starving.. u still getting your fat salary..

  • Sydney Manyibane Oa Mazibu - 2014-04-16 08:23

    Go to hell Mathunjwa!u decided to politicise ur AMCU now u want help from us,tell those who said u must bring down our through embarking on that protracted strike,irresponsible of u,idiot.

  • No.You're a handbag - 2014-04-16 08:25

    Lol. Nope.

  • No.You're a handbag - 2014-04-16 08:27

    Lol. Nope.

  • Herbert Smith - 2014-04-16 08:32

    Mechanize the mining industry. Lesotho citizen are welcome to return and work on uplifting their economy; from "sun-sitting-doing-nothing-subsistence-farming" to revitalizing their kingdom into something meaningful. They have a beautiful country, get going and do something meaningful. As for all the other unskilled and semi-skilled labourers, start using your intellectual abilities and get off your backsides and generate work for self and others!!!!

  • Smiso Pamz Mcoyana - 2014-04-16 08:33

    Mathunjwa u r an idiot. Can a Million Rand feed 70000 ppl + their family, I thought dis was joke jst imagine 1million devide by 70000 = 1 white Albany, drink-o-pop n fix pop. So if dat is wat u gonna donate jst keep ur money coz u r cnt give ppl R14 to survive 4 de whole month dats a disaster. Or u wld send it via de bank accounts bt still no1 wld get it,tjo de bank charges wld deduct definitely so ppl I hp u s how stupid Mathunjwa is, he doesn't know how 2 count I bet he didn't go 2 skul.

  • Eidel Bock - 2014-04-16 08:36

    Why? It is their choice. They are in the process to strike themself out of a job an in the process destroyng the econamy

  • Allan Edward Ferguson - 2014-04-16 09:03

    So problem easy resolved! Go back to work & you can earn a wage. Can't expect Government to subsidize a strike with tax payers money. Hello wake up and smell the roses.

  • Brian Simpson - 2014-04-16 09:10

    The AMCU has the begging bowl out but the members could earn an income if they were not misled by the Power hungry Union Offic1als who still get paid during the strike. Let COMMON SENSE prevail!

  • Tebogo Wageng - 2014-04-16 09:39

    The members are paying subscription to the union. Union must pay it's members for prolonging the strike. Take responsibility for your members. Finish and klaar.

  • Pieter Pretorius - 2014-04-16 10:50

    What a joke, let the unions who are the cause of them not working for 3 months give them hand outs. It is time unions pay for the damage they cause. And it is time that workers stand up against unions and realize that unions are there only for their own benefit, not for the benefit of the workers.

  • Winifred Watson - 2014-04-16 11:51

    @Jacob Majola, it is not only the miners that are struggling for a living wage, think about the thousands who do not have a job at all and will do anything for a chance at a job. How many professionally qualified people are doing menial work but at the end of the day its puts a slice of bread on the table. When the economy is good, businesses thrive and money wheel turns so wage earners enjoy from this as well. When the economy is bad, and its all around the world, then we have to bite the bullet. These miners are merely being used by their Union who should be better educated about the financial situations in our Country. Asking already hard tapped people for help support their members one should ask, why dont they help support their members, they have after all called the shots. There are many people who have suffered from this strike action not only the miners. The miners can go back to work tomorrow and they have a job, what about the suppliers who lost their businesses etc many lives have been ruined and each and every one of us is suffering in some or other way because of it. Investors are shying away. Stop always putting the blame on the past, start looking on the present to see the blame. The past is gone never to come back blaming it there is the easiest way out. I take it, you will be donating a portion of your salary every month to this cause. Everybody deserves a job, a decent wage, but who said life is easy.

  • Malose-Nyatlo - 2014-04-16 13:30

    Mathunjwa's luck has finally run out, after destroying so many families. Now AMCU must close shop and give way to another madding outfit!

  • tanya.truckenbrodt.3 - 2014-04-16 19:57

    Go back to .............ng work then!

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