Judgment day for Gauteng e-tolls

2012-09-20 07:38

Johannesburg - Gauteng motorists will hear on Thursday whether e-tolling will go ahead, when the Constitutional Court decides whether to overturn an interim interdict preventing e-tolling.

The high court in Pretoria granted the Opposition to Urban Tolling Alliance (Outa) an interdict on April 28, ruling that a full review needed to be carried out before electronic tolling of Gauteng's highways could be put into effect.

The interdict prevented the SA National Roads Agency Limited (Sanral) from levying or collecting e-tolls pending the outcome of a judicial review.

Sanral and National Treasury appealed the court order.

Sanral argued that delays in the project, due to the court's order, prevented it from paying off debts incurred in building gantries.

National Treasury lawyer Jeremy Gauntlett said High Court Judge Bill Prinsloo did not provide adequate reasons for his decision to grant the interdict.

Outa's lawyer Alistair Franklin argued that Sanral's choice of e-tolling as a method of funding caused it more damage than the court order.

He said the interdict was not the cause of "irreparable harm" to the road agency.

It rather suffered "self-imposed" harm by not looking at alternative funding models, Franklin said.

Sanral lawyer David Unterhalter SC said the costs of collection for e-tolling should have been examined holistically, but that the rate of non-compliance was not a proper reason for a review of the project.

He submitted that there were measures to manage deviance.

Unterhalter admitted that there were mistakes and faults with the system, but said it was ready to be introduced.

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  • - 2012-09-20 07:53

    Once again more money to come out of already empty pockets because of governments bad decisions - 2012-09-20 08:08

      Lets see if the con courts moto moto is a pet of the anc or does he stand for the people'...

      jc.jonck - 2012-09-20 08:28

      Speak for yourself, dude. I'm an honest citizen, so therefore I will not pay a cent :)

      alan.gernet - 2012-09-20 08:36

      me neither .. even if His Honour Judge Moegoe Moegoe is the victim of 'policial interference alla SA' and rules in favour of Scamall .. they will never get me to register. If that means avoiding Toll roads .. so be it, but I absolutely refuse to pay a cent for using these new toll roads. End of story.

      jc.jonck - 2012-09-20 08:43

      @Alan: At the moment I see it as funding corruption. That's my excuse.

      alan.gernet - 2012-09-20 08:49

      I agree - the decision to implement tolling that costs more than the roads is beyond stupid, and can only make me think that corruption is behind it all. That is why the Govt. is fighting the in-depth review - too much dirty washing may get exposed. Simpy put - I believe that the arrogant ruling party has declared war on the citizens of SA, and I believe that this is the biggest mistake that the ANC has ever made. There is no way that the tax payers are going to give in on this one. It's blatantly wrong!

      clive.wannenburg - 2012-09-20 09:13

      we should learn from our miners, stand up and fight while distroying the stations till we get our way and that is no toll.

      alan.jerrold - 2012-09-20 10:20

      Yes, we the taxpaying public who are being bled dry to pay for ANC leaders' luxury, must demand to see an independent audit of exactly how TWENTY BILLION RANDS was spent on the tollgates. Especially since the overseas deal involved one of the companies originally part of the Armsgate scandal. Hundreds of millions have been raped from the taxpayer for ANC pockets in this tolling deal - of that you can be sure. So are we all just meekly going to pay these crooks?

  • arthur.salvado - 2012-09-20 07:55

    The government will force its wors to steal more money from the taxpayer. People must not soften their stance. Their collection method IS unmanageable. They will threaten with jail, hanging, black listing but they must do that to 6 million drivers............daily, everyday, every week and month. Go away Sanral.

  • mable.jacobs.90 - 2012-09-20 08:05

    If it's a yes, I hope South African make it unworkable and not register.

      maree.cassie - 2012-09-20 08:28

      I'm with you. Even if it goes through, I SHALL NOT PAY!!!! Lets just hope everybody stands together...

  • Sedeshan Naidoo - 2012-09-20 08:05

    we did it before, so we can do it again! don't register! i am tired of paying for the corrupt governments mistakes!!

      mark.singh.9889 - 2012-09-20 08:09

      Bad news is that you will still pay whether you register or not. They will use your vehicle licence number to bill you and it will cost you more that with a tag.

      JManAtheoi - 2012-09-20 08:15

      And if NOBODY pays?

      charl.reaper - 2012-09-20 09:49

      @mark I wonder how many people will drive without license plates attached and disks on the windows then.

      sedeshan - 2012-09-20 14:13

      They simply do not have the capacity to issue those fines/ summons to millions of people on a daily basis. Don't let them use scare tactics against you.

  • phumi.ntlabati - 2012-09-20 08:08

    The Wealthy and the middle must stop complaining and start doing their civil duties as responsible citizens of this country. The government cannot be massaging the ego of those who demanded laxury, but at the end they are refusing to pay for it! e-Talls will happen until the Gauteng well-to-do pay their self-inflicted debt!

      allen.visser - 2012-09-20 08:22

      Dont be a complete and utter chop. The trucks delivering food that both, the wealthy and the poor eat, will also have to pay the e-toll costs. And who do you think is going to absorb the costs here? Only the wealthy? In the end, the poor will suffer the most when bread and milk shoot up by R3. Dont be such a moron. The wealthy can take the hit, the rest of us will suffer.

      arthur.adams.988 - 2012-09-20 08:24

      PHUMI , everybody will pay even the poorest who will not use the roads. when food prices go up they will also pay.

      colin.dovey - 2012-09-20 08:25

      What unadulterated rubbish you spout - there are all "classes" of people using the roads, including low earning pensioners, students, workers. What you write has no basis in fact. The tolling of lorries and trucks will increase the price of food & fuel across to everybody! BTW - learn to spell LUXURY - and work hard 'cos you will never get it unless you do - that is the right of people who do - they did not demand it - they WORK for it.

      alan.gernet - 2012-09-20 08:52

      Hows life in Limpopo nowadays Phumi? Any sign of the educational textbooks yet?

      alan.gernet - 2012-09-20 10:09

      Well said Docwally - but sadly your response to the likes of Phumi is 'bridge to far'.

      sedeshan - 2012-09-20 14:18

      The government preys and thrives on people like you. It seems that everyone here has already graced you with an accurate answer, but I'll say it again - every single person in gauteng who eats bread and drinks milk, amongst every other food there is, will be effected by this!

  • lekkeperd.chevyss - 2012-09-20 08:08

    We back you all the way OUTA!!! Good Luck

  • allen.visser - 2012-09-20 08:15

    e-Tolling is inevitable. There are too many corrupt fingers in the pie. Gov needs to find new ways to line their pockets and steal from the people.

  • glen.e.huysamer - 2012-09-20 08:19

    It is almost as if the ANC government ha not understood that the Nation has said enough is enough, but they continue to push through regardless. It proves that they do not have the citizens of South Africa's interest at heart and are only lining their own pockets and to hell with the rest. How far do they think they can continue to push. It seems that these politicians are setting up the toll fees to serve their great grand children's trusts. This Scam-ral needs a in Juju.

  • paul.davids.923 - 2012-09-20 08:26

    we are going to drive ourselfs to bankruptcy

      alan.gernet - 2012-09-20 08:42

      nope - the Govt is trying to do that in their quest to pay for their mismanagement and corruption. Viva Service Delivery... viva!

  • muis.vandenheever - 2012-09-20 08:37

    I can put money on it that the appeal will be granted as they had plenty of time to negtiate a bribe with the judge and other parties involved. I do however hope that all South Africans will come together and fight this corrupt and unjustified system. Where do they exspect us to get additional money for this rubbish and why are they not using the fuel levies to cover the costs of upgrading and maintaining of roads. This SUCKS!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  • siyanda.yeni.5 - 2012-09-20 08:38

    They should have known that this would happen before they built those things! We were never consulted as the public! This government of ours just impose things on us! Hope the ConCourt upholds Prnsloos's decision!

  • grant.logan.94 - 2012-09-20 08:43

    As a person of colour, I believe that the ANC does not care for the people or South Africa. They only care about their own needs and therefor I will NEVER EVER vote ANC. And may they never again rule in the Western Cape.

  • bbooyse - 2012-09-20 08:43

    Regardless -- I won't pay. SANRAL and this kleptomaniacal government can get stuffed. Case Closed.

  • jay.vyas.984 - 2012-09-20 08:48

    The SA OVERTAXED Citizens' war continues. DO NOT BUY an e-TAG .... EVER!!!! Stop using the e-Toll Gantry Routes!!! It is called PASSIVE RESISTANCE - Hurt SCAMRAL - Just be Smart!!!

      muis.vandenheever - 2012-09-20 08:52

      Gantry or GALLOW??? That is the question

  • walter.lebza - 2012-09-20 09:08

    They must be fools to think I'll pay gantries. Those who bought etags must be chickens.

  • tshidiso.mathang - 2012-09-20 09:10

    Where are the Economic Freedom Fighters (ANCYL)? What happened to economic freedom in our lifetimes, or this does not apply?? \r\nGovernment can suck my etolly too!!

      henk.vanrensburg.31 - 2012-09-20 09:21

      No it is only economic freedom to the cadres.

      alan.gernet - 2012-09-20 09:31

      Dont worry - if Govt. tries to push this through - Cosatu will organize the Strike to end ALL strikes.

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