Give Sanral a medal - economist

Give Sanral a medal - economist

2014-11-19 19:44

Pretoria - The SA National Roads Agency Limited (Sanral) should get a medal for its work, an economist on Wednesday told the panel reviewing Gauteng's e-toll system.

Economist Roelof Botha, whom Sanral commissioned to research the impact of the Gauteng Freeway Improvement Project (GFIP), praised the toll roads and their contribution to the province.

He was effusive in his praise, suggesting the agency ought to "get a medal for what they have done".

"Gauteng is the 'motor province', the economic hub not only of South Africa, but probably of Africa," he told the panel, sitting in Pretoria.

"One of the early benefits of GFIP is that the road commuter pain index has been reduced significantly."

This meant that drivers' frustration and irritation had been "more or less removed... thanks to Sanral".

The improved road network saved people commuting time, which translated into productive time where people could earn more money, or leisure time, which allowed people to get home earlier, leaving them more rested, and more productive for the next day.

Read: E-tolls is an excellent idea, says Botha

Botha argued that if the roads had been funded by government then the freeway upgrade, had it been undertaken at all, would have used money that could have been used for delivering services to the public.

"This government does not have money to build fancy roads, unless people are prepared to pay for that."

The panel was appointed by Gauteng premier David Makhura to examine the GFIP and the electronic tolling system put in place to fund it. It was expected to present its findings to Makhura at the end of the month.

A second economist, Keith Lockwood, submitted that a fuel levy would have a disproportionate cost for the poor, who generally used highways via public transport, which was exempt from e-tolling. This was because public transport costs would go up as the fuel price increased.

Sanral board member Peter Derman, who has a social science background, told the panel that a social impact assessment had not been done for the GFIP.

Based on his previous experience, he "would hazard a guess" that the GFIP would benefit the poor in the long term. Such benefits included townships assuming a more urban character, and job creation.

Sanral was making final presentations to the panel to "clear up misconceptions" about the e-tolling project, which had been met with significant public resistance.


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  • Frans Jacobs - 2014-11-19 19:54

    I still wont pay them a cent!

      Made-inthe South - 2014-11-20 00:49

      This Roelof Botha is nothing but a ZANC imbongi,singing for his supper.They are getting desperate,e-tolls is basically dead already.People are not paying,and at the same time ETC[Toll Collections] has laid off their staff meaning there is nobody working on collections anymore.They are counting on people to pay on a voluntary basis,which they wont do.

  • Isebel Botha - 2014-11-19 19:58

    The money that the poor people whould have had for petrol must now go for e-toll. Not everybody in Gauteng or SA is rich. Think of the people who is suffering already. Go ask Zuma for the e-toll money he signed for this stupid thing. Not me or anybody thats against it. I wil not PAY. Im to poor.

  • kevern.upton - 2014-11-19 20:00

    I travel the route daily, what a joke, congestion relieved my@ss, what a joke.... How much did they pay you Botha?

      Konstabel Koekemoer - 2014-11-20 09:10

      "This meant that drivers' frustration and irritation had been "more or less removed... thanks to Sanral" ... does this fool ever drive on the freeways, besides a few exception in most areas the traffic is as congested as ever during peak. And he provided no audited facts or figures.

  • michael.dempsey.9279 - 2014-11-19 20:01

    What about alternative routes? Every suburb is closed in Gauteng, and here's another point no one has brought up, those blue lights at night blind me for 3 seconds cause they so bright. Don't think that's in their report hey

  • Michael Mnguni898 - 2014-11-19 20:02

    What a cheerleader this Botha guy is! Wow, an ambassor post is awaiting you. You are the most disgusting, pathetic soul. How much were you paid to dispense this nonsense?

      rowan.torr.9 - 2014-11-19 20:08

      Rolf is been paid by SANRAL to say nice things about Etolls at the publics expense. They need 65 billion rand per year to maintain the roads. That money should be spent on giving us world class public transport.

  • Sibaya Sembongolo - 2014-11-19 20:02


  • Michael van der Merwe - 2014-11-19 20:03

    The Pain index for drivers has been reduced? There is no frustration?? Commuting time is reduced? Roulof......... ARE YOU SMOKING CRACK???? When last were you on the N1??? They haven't and still won't see a cent from me!!!!

  • tony.ribeiro.77 - 2014-11-19 20:06

    No secret who is paying Botha!!!!

  • Ronnie Webb - 2014-11-19 20:07

    Ag shame the poor guy.may be he will get a increase

  • Ronnie Webb - 2014-11-19 20:08

    I wont pay them a cent also

  • Tokkie Ndlovu - 2014-11-19 20:10

    We pay tax...our tax money can pay for the roads

  • Michael Cassel - 2014-11-19 20:12

    Wonder how much they paid him to say that??? As anybody who has done economics knows it has an overall negative impact on consumers if they paid... The only reason why it can be seen as better is because no one is paying so therefore it is pain free

  • Sifiso Myeni - 2014-11-19 20:14

    Yoh! "This government doesn't have money to build fancy roads". Next we gonna hear they don't have money to provide water, sewerage systems, and what next? Who then should provide those services if not the government?

  • denise.coates.98 - 2014-11-19 20:16

    Botha, how much are you being paid to talk such trash?

  • Freddy van Wijk - 2014-11-19 20:17

    Roelof Botha, have you been at the "nyeope" again?

  • Theo Ferreira - 2014-11-19 20:17


  • gruffalo.bill.3 - 2014-11-19 20:18

    Pay the idiot enough and he says what you want !

  • BrianExmachina - 2014-11-19 20:19

    This joker should come drive with me to work every day, after a month he'll be begging to not go on the freeways. Pain index decreased? Are you delusional? I've been driving on these roads for years and it's as bad as it ever was. I'll give them credit for Allandale, but overall my commute takes longer now than it did 6 years ago.

  • Jack Thomas - 2014-11-19 20:19

    what some people wont do for money... Mr. Botha , what ever you do, dont tell your frends what you are trying to do they surely will diss your arsk! Plonker!

  • H John Marquis - 2014-11-19 20:19

    If this had been so good for us economically, why have we not seen a jump in Gauteng GDP figures since the road upgrade.

  • Walter Barnes - 2014-11-19 20:22

    Yes Roelof, We also paid for our presidents R248 Mill mansion. Of course there is no money.

  • William Steven Pearson - 2014-11-19 20:22

    I flip a floyd at you Both and just for fun @ you to Lindiwe Zulu.

  • Casper Vorster Skillspro - 2014-11-19 20:23

    What a dildo

  • Ricky Manne - 2014-11-19 20:26

    Agreed fully.. While we prepare their medal why don't you have a shot of Strychnine --- I mean Vodka.. It's on me! I'll have mine after you have yours, I promise.

  • Alan Stewart - 2014-11-19 20:31

    They always refer to the government. Gov paid this or that. We give the gov money to have all the services we've got!!! And municipality paid for toll - now we paying 3 times for the same service!!! It seems only government can go against thier own laws. Sounds like an African state.

  • Eddie Murray - 2014-11-19 20:34

    Obviously on the payroll tsk tsk

  • Yugan Naidoo - 2014-11-19 20:38

    Don't you get it, you Bothas have failed dismally has politicians . Is this a way to redeem the Bothas name. Are you looking for a ministerial post?

  • Bonga Sihawu - 2014-11-19 20:39

    one wonder how much did SANRAL pay Economist Botha for the research report? Let us hope no 'GRAVY' was involve to make our economist sing Sanral praises.

  • Fiona Ursula Allymoo Liang - 2014-11-19 20:40

    He is Naazir Allie's b**tch

  • Grant Montgomery - 2014-11-19 20:41

    I've posted this on other threads. SA should ban the use of paid 'expert' witnesses in court and the should apply to hearings such as this. It goes without saying the 'expert' will say whatever they are paid to even if they know it to be false. I wonder what Botha's family and former friends thing of him?

  • Pieter van Staden - 2014-11-19 20:41

    Over the radio he sounds like a real @ssw1pe.

  • Theo Dor - 2014-11-19 20:41

    So this good idea and nobody buys into it. For economists I must say a wise statement. Selling something nobody wants and at a bargain, Twit the operational cost all by itself can pay for the upgrades Then the profits where is that going. What a stupid argument if the roads been funded by government. Who funds government? the same bloody people twit. Government has no money they steal from a few. Then please explain why most of the money goes out of the country.

  • Jamba - 2014-11-19 20:44

    Not a very clever economist. Sanral works for taxpayers and they are unhappy. Raise the point of ethics and nepotism.

  • Charmaine Stone - 2014-11-19 20:47

    What about the money from the fuel levy - that is supposed to pay for roads and maintenance?

  • cobus.j.rensburg - 2014-11-19 20:48

    Talk about a conflict of interest!

  • Sandra Brown - 2014-11-19 20:51

    Definition of an expert - an ex is a has-been and a spurt is a drip under pressure

  • Johann Malan - 2014-11-19 21:00

    For steeling?

  • Lpk Pmc - 2014-11-19 21:04

    You idiot - you give the term "economist" A BAD NAME!! Business management specialist.

  • Rendani Nemavhidi - 2014-11-19 21:08

    Mr Botha seems to be deliberately embarked on a mission to spite the public that is overwhelmingly opposed to e-tolls.

  • Jongizizwe Modecai - 2014-11-19 21:12

    i am afraid to comment since i use public transpot... better do myself a favour and "shut up" mr Bothaa dts not a way to adress people you will eat ur words with ur sanral...

  • davids5070276 - 2014-11-19 21:15

    I'll give them a medal, a Noddy badge should do it.

  • Drexlar Miutente - 2014-11-19 21:18

    First Comment: It does not take an economist to refute this un-scholary gullible academic named Botha. I have done Economics and being an academic myself, I can say there are other empirical studies with opposite findings. Botha is not the only Economist/Academic on planet Earth. His arguments are pathetic to say the least.

  • Drexlar Miutente - 2014-11-19 21:28

    Second Comment: So Botha tells us the poor, to ''shut-up'', well since the e-tolls were introduced, the price of food went up, and that does not need a crooked Sicko-nomist like Botha to tell us otherwise. Logistics companies are paying more for goods due e-trolls, which automatically impacts on pricing of goods.Tell the poor who pay more for goods that they dont have a say. Dumbf*ck!

  • Kieran Harrop - 2014-11-19 21:35

    What ox wagon did this clown roll off??its the most corrupt system on the roads

  • nkosinathi.solomon.5 - 2014-11-19 21:36

    You can always get an economist to justify anything. Remember the old joke about one handed economists. It was to guard against anomalies like this.

  • Drexlar Miutente - 2014-11-19 21:44

    Third comment: I don't give a sh*t about this panel's mandate. This retarded system together with Sanral's Sicko-nomist Botha can kiss my as* . I aint paying for sh*t. This sh*tty system did not work in Turkey with 70% Compliance. We don't even pay traffic fines here, with our less than 10% compliance.Plus 100% crooked JMPD.Scamral can go to Nkandla.

  • Brian Victor - 2014-11-19 21:57

    So nice of him to do it for free to show that he is objective. Even if it is a load of crap.

  • Christopher Hart - 2014-11-19 22:22

    Fuel levy is meant to pay for road maintenance and infrastructure instead it goes into the pockets of the clowns in government

  • Stuart de Lange - 2014-11-19 22:28

    I would love to know what botha is smoking and how much the idiot is getting paid by scamral

  • Emone Nomore - 2014-11-19 22:46

    For a moment I thought that Botha was actually Leon Schuster performing one of his pranks. His presentation was good enough to be in a Leon Schuster movie: "You must be joking SANRAL".

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