Foreigners won't be allowed to own SA land
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Foreigners won't be allowed to own SA land

2015-02-12 20:35

Cape Town - Foreign nationals will not be allowed to own land in South Africa, but will be for long term lease, President Jacob Zuma said on Thursday.

In his State of the Nation address he said a bill in this regard will be submitted this year.

On land reform he said more than 36 00 land claims have been launched nationally and the cut off date is 2019.

"We are also exploring the 50-50 policy framework on rights for people who live and work on farms."

Zuma said 50 farming enterprises will be identified as pilot projects.

"In terms of our new proposed laws, a ceiling will be set on 12 000 hectares.

In future foreigners "will not be able to own land in South Africa" but could lease it, Zuma said.

Although this policy position has been mulled over by the ruling party, it was widely expected until tonight that foreigners would be restricted only.

The ANC recently suggested - through its secretary general Gwede Mantashe - that local farmers would be restricted to 12 000 hectares of farm holdings, but the abolition of foreign land ownership in future was a surprise announcement.

Zuma also said the office of the Valuer General would be up and running in the year ahead. This would mark the end to the "willing-buyer, willing-seller" process of land reform.

The office would be involved in valuing land for expropriation from farmers, it is envisaged, although Zuma did not go into details in his state of the nation speech.

Comments
  • Pack Age - 2015-02-12 20:39

    Now watch disinvestment........! Very clever Mt Zuma......NOT!

      Sharon Ackerman - 2015-02-12 20:59

      And what about the Gupta family? And Mugabe? What will be happening to the property owned by them??

      Neil McBain - 2015-02-12 21:05

      Zim 2.0

      Franky Mark - 2015-02-12 21:10

      It took Zimbabwe 20 years after independence to take this step and fail, now 20 years to the day SA is following suit...... Nothing has been learned,!!! SA gets rape yet again by these imbeciles !

      Samual Sing - 2015-02-12 21:10

      Strangely I think Zuma has (a) point. There is a growing trend for foreign companies to own farms in South Africa. I fear we might find our food supply at the mercy of foreign companies, not our own farmers. Basically the same principle applies to our gold and diamond mines. Secondly do we really want *incredibly wealthy* investors from buying up prime real estate and artificially inflate the price of houses (above that which a normal South African can afford?) I do have concerns, but at the same time I believe there might be wisdom in some of his proposals. But for the 50-50 farm split, that's just stupid right there.

      Joseph Shange - 2015-02-12 21:24

      What did everyone think of Mac Maharaj's state of the nation speech?

      Jacques Louw - 2015-02-12 21:34

      Hahaha! Go Joseph!!

      b.agnostic - 2015-02-12 21:51

      How is the following missed by Zuma et al. A farm of say 1000 hectares in Western Cape is way more productive than a 1000 hectare farm in the Northern Cape. Limiting land ownership to 12 000 hectares is rediculous and irrisponsible. Farming activities in arid places will literally grind to a halt.

      Jaun Meyer038 - 2015-02-13 04:42

      After last night we are all faced with a choice. Foreign friends have already phoned voicing concern. Many opting to leave. Even the ones renting. Even the tourists. My parents will probably take up the position in Holland they were offered. I am considering leaving as are all my friends. Watch the divestment and brain drain now......

      Eric Southland - 2015-02-13 07:39

      There is an afrikaans saying " Al dra n aap n goue ring........" So in essence the EFF wont be able to do land grab?

      yaya188 - 2015-02-13 07:43

      He is such an idiot, let alone his speech writer. The Chinese are pouring in here......what he doesn't realise, is that there are so many ways for foreigners to buy land in this country. There will not be disinvestment, merely name changes. The chaos created by this idiotic statement, will have the canny vultures, waiting in the wings, salivating. The other statement re ordinary citizens being disallowed to own more than 12000 hectares? eish....... such 'headline-grabbing-attention' meaningless.

      yaya188 - 2015-02-13 07:45

      He is such an idiot, let alone his speech writer. The Chinese are pouring in here......what he doesn't realise, is that there are so many ways for foreigners to buy land in this country. There will not be disinvestment, merely name changes. The chaos created by this idiotic statement, will have the canny vultures, waiting in the wings, salivating.

      Francois Jordaan - 2015-02-13 08:30

      Zakhele you clearly have no idea about economic growth. What you are suggesting will drive our economy down the same path as Zim. Do you really want the Rand to have a ration of 100/1 to the dollar? When that happens, food prices will go through the roof, petrol, electricity. Everything we buy for consuming will be way too expensive and poverty will only increase.

      Don Tandy - 2015-02-13 11:11

      How are showerhead's Chinese buddies going to feel after spending R1bn for the Modderfontein land?

  • Pieter Erwee - 2015-02-12 20:39

    bye bye foreign investments and half of Capetown will be empty now

      Michael Ross - 2015-02-12 22:05

      Wow, Zakhele Madela is quite the racist. Is it difficult to act outright and blatantly racist, then pretend not to be one? Please keep your negative attitude and comments to yourself.

      Wullie Mack - 2015-02-12 22:33

      Zakhele you mean the only Province that is run right it is time the ANC sent some of it's members down their to learn how a Province should be run,,By the way it lacks INTELLIGENCE TO SWEAR ..

      richard.wraith - 2015-02-12 23:16

      Zakhele, Jehovah! wahahaha, before I just thought you were a racist...

      Jaun Meyer038 - 2015-02-13 04:56

      None so blind as those who do not wish to see.

      Francois Jordaan - 2015-02-13 08:32

      Zakhele that mini European State is doing better than the whole of SA put together. So go do some research first please before you try commenting here

      Francois Jordaan - 2015-02-13 08:34

      Why bring Jehova into this? God gave His nation the land of milk and honey for them to make it theirs.. So your statement is contradictory to what you believe.

      Gawie Gorrel - 2015-02-13 10:23

      @ Zakhele You are a very ignoramus my friend. You and your types have not contributed anything worthwhile to this country. Stand aside let people that can make this country work do that. You had your time and achieved nothing. Bye bye!

  • Cyndi Buthelezi - 2015-02-12 20:40

    South africas with dual citizenship should also be banned from owing land

      matthew.flanagan.5 - 2015-02-12 20:44

      How does that not discriminate against those you refer to?

      Anton Claassen - 2015-02-12 20:46

      Why should we be banned?

      CliveK - 2015-02-12 20:50

      I suspect that it is unconstitutional to ban South Africans from owning land, Cyndi, not that such niceties would bother many in the authoritarian ANC.

      Alec Louw Theunissen - 2015-02-12 20:54

      Yea can't help u don't have... Now wonder our country become a banana republic..

      George Schoonraad - 2015-02-12 20:55

      The people you voted into power is slowly ruining you childerns lives, and you are smiling about it.

      Mario Barnard - 2015-02-12 21:03

      You support a corrupt government and a thief for a president! You are a disgrace to Nelson Mandela's legacy and should go hang yourself from a tree!!

      Dave Elmore - 2015-02-12 21:31

      I'm not nice to stupid and racist comments form ignorant people. I contribute far far more to this country that you do, I don't give a cr@p what you think and your predictable coment

      Jacques Louw - 2015-02-12 21:32

      Slice, its a two-way street you know...

      Motho Fela - 2015-02-12 22:10

      Monareng, still live in Europe, Your country is burning coming back ???

      Steven Adamson - 2015-02-13 07:37

      Thought it was a free world but it seems you just want to control everything that isn't yours.

      Mbizi Heart - 2015-02-13 07:57

      @Dave, no thanks we got enough of those up north, you can keep her

      Francois Jordaan - 2015-02-13 08:36

      Slice if we as white people must move because we stole the land, then you must also go back north into Africa as you also stole the land from the Khoi Khoi and Khoi-San people

      Desiree Rowe - 2015-02-13 10:16

      Really and Why is that? There are many reasons for the dual membership, for instance in some countries you can't inherit if you are not registered as an inheritor. Or because they work in that country and bring home the money to this country where their families are. Or simply it is because you are jealous of those who are blessed with having dual nationality.

      Gawie Gorrel - 2015-02-13 10:29

      @Slice I believe you lost your passport when you and your forefathers came from up north? That qualifies you as one with two passports. So hamba get off to where you came from when you and your feeble types arrived here.You saw what will happen if all the whities leave here: You lot of clowns will start fighting each other. Voetsek stupid

      Markus Ippy - 2015-02-13 12:09

      I am a foreigner with permanent residency , I bought my house in 2009 way after the transition of democracy . I work and contribute to this country . So what is the issue ? Maybe your hatred for foreigners is blinding your eyes. Look at South Africa and also Europe , how many businesses are owned by foreigners and employ locals . Maybe you also could suggest all non South African companies should also leave . Volkswagen , Mercedes, Ford , Nissan , Toyota BMW , Nestlé ,Bosch , Bridgestone , Continental , Kromberg , ZF .... Will you provide all the people without work with a job ? Owning land will not change the situation of the poor , education and the means to production will . Good luck with Zimbabwe 2.0

  • jules.aardt - 2015-02-12 20:46

    What about the guptas?

      Jean Le Roux - 2015-02-13 09:00

      We are all equal, but some are more equal than others...

  • Frans Frederik Fourie - 2015-02-12 20:46

    Police state now communism with land ownership.... Where will it end?

      Alec Louw Theunissen - 2015-02-12 20:55

      In die moeikheid

      Meeky Mauros - 2015-02-13 00:39

      It will never end,we experienced this in Zimbabwe and it hasn't ended and not ending anytime soon.Put your hope in God,things are going to be so rough.

  • Jane Longmuir - 2015-02-12 20:46

    So where does that leave those of us who are foreigners, who have bought our homes but don't own lots of land?

      Nkhensi Xalati Dhumazi - 2015-02-12 21:29

      you will not be evicted as this bill comes into oprtation after you have bought your land

  • Peter Storbeck - 2015-02-12 20:47

    The cANCer voters will all think this means land for them. How stupid. All the land will be taken by connected cronies. Same as ZimBOBwe

  • Mark Schrade - 2015-02-12 20:47

    Zimbabwe anyone?

      Michael Southfrica - 2015-02-12 20:51

      ...and you had to be that guy. This doesn't really mean much. Just like a lot of companies do to get over the BEE hurdle, foreigners will just get a South African to have the land in their name as a front. Rich people always find a way to win (that's why they're rich)

      Mark Schrade - 2015-02-12 20:52

      I get your point, but u not seeing the bigger picture...

  • CliveK - 2015-02-12 20:47

    What a way to attract foreign investment!

  • Gebashe Phumlani - 2015-02-12 20:47

    Big up for that Mr president...

      Dylan Dillboy Allison - 2015-02-12 20:53

      Your president is a thief

      Dylan Dillboy Allison - 2015-02-12 20:56

      Your mr president is a thief

      Mario Barnard - 2015-02-12 21:04

      You support a corrupt government and a thief for a president! You are a disgrace to Nelson Mandela's legacy and should go hang yourself from a tree!!

      Steven Adamson - 2015-02-13 07:41

      Another freebie? Why don't you work for it like most people in the world.

      Gawie Gorrel - 2015-02-13 10:36

      @Gebashe I see you rate yourself as a poet? Not very good though. You also don't seem to understand the foolishness of your president. So, what future do you have. Nice car though!

  • Schalk Bothma - 2015-02-12 20:51

    Well done.....make another Zimbabwe....another poor African country that has nothing. So stupid..history repeating itself over and over and over again...and yet they do not learn..

  • Renee Marais - 2015-02-12 20:51

    Stupid stupid stupid,

  • b.vandoorn.7 - 2015-02-12 20:51

    ANC needs 2/3rd majority to change property rights in terms of the Constitution(ie the law that also governs land ownership for anyone), might limit future land purchases but nothing current. Will also lead to foreign nationals just buying land through SA formed trusts and companies, therefore making the above act completely meaningless...

      Reno Finch - 2015-02-12 20:58

      They could get the EFF to help them change the law with 2/3s.

  • Frans Frederik Fourie - 2015-02-12 20:52

    Who is going to pay for the extra land of a farmer who has more than 12000 hectares and who will pay for the foreiners land? They do not even have enough money for water infrastructure. This is just to be left and revolusionary countering the EFF

      Peter Storbeck - 2015-02-12 21:00

      Keep up Frans They have no intention of paying. They've stated this publicly

      Wullie Mack - 2015-02-12 22:42

      It will be taken with no compensation and the farmer is to keep his own debt ,So like me if you still owe R2.1 million to the bank after buying new farm equipment and they take the land from me I will still owe the bank 2.1 million,So I then declare bankruptcy.How many more farmers will do the same and can the bank take all the loss,,???

  • Alec Louw Theunissen - 2015-02-12 20:52

    And their goes the investments, who wants to lease and spend millions on the land and it's not urs.... These guys smoking something... Sad day, investors going to run far..

      Sonia Moesha Osunde - 2015-02-12 21:18

      Yes.nobody will want to invest millions and he will not have a right to own it.more problem.We are going back to where we were in 3 decades ago.and nobody should blame apartheid .Is Jz s doings.

  • Celestene Bosch - 2015-02-12 20:55

    unemployment will rise...

  • Marco Cronje - 2015-02-12 20:56

    What a idiot take away foreign investment not making sense if so ban all other nationality and stop the open border policy's

      James Edward Honiball - 2015-02-12 21:00

      Zuma is the biggest idiot i know, how saf that this country has fallen this far and by the hands of an undeducated fool, bring back the age of enlightenment!

  • Bradley Duncan - 2015-02-12 21:01

    There goes our foreign investment. Idiot!

  • MICHAEL1025 - 2015-02-12 21:04

    You have screwed the country Zuma thank you

  • Korrupt Anc - 2015-02-12 21:04

    the international community will teach zanc pure economics. lots of beggars at your local traffic light...

  • Mike Burrows - 2015-02-12 21:05

    Does that mean the Gupta's will have to sell their homes

  • Kobus Hattingh - 2015-02-12 21:06

    Welcome to SAmbabwe. Now watch the rand and foreign investment fall and with that more jobs...

  • Naphtali Ejumu - 2015-02-12 21:07

    it's so sad when hate overrides reason. This is going to cause foreign inverters to leave taking money out of the country and destroying jobs. but I guess Zuma, a man who can't see past junior school, can't see past a stupid decision. there's a reason why Africa is so messed up and it's not because of white people it's because the leaders are corrupt and incompetent. It actually amazes me that someone can look at a man who hasn't even completed junior school is allowed to run country. i personally think that says more about voters intelligence because everyone knows you don't elect someone less qualified or than to do a job.

      Shimi Mokobane - 2015-02-12 21:17

      Well Naphtali if you feel so strong of the South African policies I guess that simply say its time for you to return home. We as a people of this country will and shall not prioritise interest and feelings of foreigners than those of the citizens. If you call so many South Africans stupid what are you doing in a country of idiots? Be advised that foreigners with their many aren't above the interests of South African citizens....

      Florian Regenfuss - 2015-02-12 21:30

      Mr Mokobane, Do you really think south africans will benefit if the rest of the world disinvests in the country??? Remember this was one of the reasons apartheid was forced to end. Let's just hope the ANC will be stopped before they completely ruined the economy. Ghis kind of short term thinking saddens me.

      Steven Adamson - 2015-02-13 07:42

      Spot on.

      Hendrik Visser - 2015-02-13 08:39

      I can only smile at these moronic commentators who believe that a corrupt, incompetent government will lovingly hold the land in trust for their valued voters and citizens, spreading the land equally so all can live in Utopia. What a bunch of c*&p.Lol They will hold the land for themselves, and share it with their cronies, while the rest of the "people", who they see as "voting fodder" will sit in their own s*&t, bloated and hungry, like the rest of Africa. Show me one communist country that made a success of this policy, just one...

      Francois Jordaan - 2015-02-13 08:40

      Shimi. If he goes back home so should you to North Africa where you first came and took land from the real natives

  • Grant Neill - 2015-02-12 21:07

    Welcome to Zimbabwe

  • Shireen Eva - 2015-02-12 21:09

    Will this mean that the farm debt will also be split 50/50???

      Wullie Mack - 2015-02-12 22:49

      No I have enquired in to this when a white paper came out last year the farmer will keep his own debt...

  • Mark Austin - 2015-02-12 21:09

    Typical Africa these idiots have no clue. Keep the foreign investors out and watch the economy die. Useless idiots.

      Kyu Sung Lee - 2015-02-12 21:16

      Zuma is the King idiots!

  • Emone Nomore - 2015-02-12 21:14

    This might sound great on paper, but in the end all that will happen is that rich South Africans will end up buying the land. Foreigners will simply go spend their money somewhere else where they can own the land.

  • Ismail Moosa - 2015-02-12 21:14

    Things are happening in stages...I fear owning land in SA!

  • Mark Stuart Fletcher - 2015-02-12 21:15

    The hand of the SACP is very visible as this is the first step in the collectivisation of land which leads to the state owning all land and dishing out prime land to loyal cadres. The policy is unsustainable as farms will become too small to be productive and farm labour populations will become to large to benefit from the farm.

      Wullie Mack - 2015-02-12 22:53

      Only about 23% of all the land is in white hands the rest is in Govt and Village Chiefs hands ,,O and a little in the hands of black farmers..

  • Michael Southfrica - 2015-02-12 21:17

    The only difference is that foreigners can only own land through SA based companies and trusts. I really don't see much changing here.

  • Gary McDonogh - 2015-02-12 21:18

    Let's watch as the currency heads for $15

  • Faraie Fistoz James - 2015-02-12 21:19

    Slowly but surely..Goin Zim way..

  • Desiree Rowe - 2015-02-12 21:19

    What is their defintion of land does that mean houses and or property too or are they talking about farm land and so forth ? Do they know what this is going to mean to the economy in the long run? How does it affect those who already own land/property in this country?

      Florian Regenfuss - 2015-02-12 21:25

      Good question! I would really like to know too. I am a german national owning a small property in cape town. Even mugabe onky took farming land as far as I heard... bright future ahead...

      Armand De la Rey - 2015-02-12 21:32

      The "willing byer willing seller" principle will be attacked and destroyed. When they want any property (land, house, business ext) they will simply take it and then determine later themselves how much they will give you("state institution will determine the value") You cant say no,and must take what they offer. They can offer anything

      Jaycee Bezuidenhout - 2015-02-12 21:43

      * Dielandisinsymoer

      Shanna Da Silva - 2015-02-13 10:58

      Land means any and all property. Be it plots, houses, farms, business premises etc. We can only wait to see what is said regarding foreign nationals who already own property. Scary stuff.

  • francois.pienaar.7792 - 2015-02-12 21:20

    I would like to encourage all countries not invest a single cent further into to ANC ( African National Circus ) run country. I agree with Malema pay back the Money you stole from the Tax Payers, bloody croock

      Jaycee Bezuidenhout - 2015-02-12 21:22

      Springbok Francois ?

  • Armand De la Rey - 2015-02-12 21:20

    Wipe your ass with our hardfought, progressive constitution that so many heros died and fought for. Its not worth the paper its written on. It only took one villian and a couple of townships to destroy our future through ignorance, arrogance and greed. Guess we have to organise and regroup a struggle 2 force. Anybody willing to give his life for freedom and this country? Fight or flee NOW.

  • Rene Phillips Kets - 2015-02-12 21:20

    HKGK! !

  • Author Michael Malyon - 2015-02-12 21:20

    Hoor hoe val die Rand :D

  • Andre Bouwer - 2015-02-12 21:22

    Wonder when they going to start taking our properties and houses.then we can just rent from the government. This country is going down the drain faster than the speed of light.

      Wullie Mack - 2015-02-12 22:55

      Andre by law your council may take your house with out payment ,,,So you are to late,,

  • Michael Smorenburg-Author - 2015-02-12 21:22

    Typical scavenger mentality of the 3rd world. South Africa now has one option open to it - it's either sink or become a state of America - like Alaska, Hawaii... Stop and think about it a moment: Dollar linked - rule of law - buoyant economy. Hey... I lived in the US for 8 years and didn't much like the US government, but it's better than these buffoons.

  • Bernhard Suchland - 2015-02-12 21:22

    May I ad that South Africa is not Canada or Australia when it come to bylaws they regulate the ownership of foreigners. SA is 3rd country, foreign companies and individuals own less than 1% of the land in SA. Another silly move to erode the investment climate What about if the likes of ABB, Mercedes or GE leave the country Than it gets even darker in SA

      Michael TheWriter - 2015-02-12 21:27

      What these clowns don't understand is that the foreign investors only drive prices up in a very small enclave of area - in a few suburbs - and deliver vast amounts of foreign investment, taxes and credibility to what is becoming a banana republic.

  • Kobus Van Wyk - 2015-02-12 21:23

    There goes your future foreign capital and much needed investment in the country's tourism and leisure sectors. Foreigners own property, they turn homes into holiday houses and thousands upon thousands of foreigners come to SA to stay in these homes every year. They also bring with them Euro's, Pounds, Dollars and Yens to spend in the local community. But, NOOO! Showerhead and his moron party cannot see or think in futures. Don't understand the concept of foreign investment, production and a free economy. Taking from those who have to give to those who have nothing is NOT a solution.

  • Jaycee Bezuidenhout - 2015-02-12 21:23

    Shower head is the ring master of the national circus.. It's time he gets demoted to a common clown..

      Wullie Mack - 2015-02-12 23:00

      He all ready is one so no demotion needed,,

  • Ewald van den Heever - 2015-02-12 21:24

    How many Cape Town homes along the coast line towards Hout Bay is owned by Foreign Nationals? ....

  • Leon Coe - 2015-02-12 21:26

    I once had a farm in Africa.

      Leon Coe - 2015-02-13 07:25

      Harry, read between the lines!...

  • Wessel Strydom - 2015-02-12 21:26

    Not a bad move. Foreigners drive land prices upwards and make it unaffordable for locals. The Americans and Swedes dont buy land in Africa and have been renting the whole time whilst trading anyway. This will keep the Chinese thats exploiting Africa at bay.

  • Henning Lubbe - 2015-02-12 21:28

    What about the mines Zuma owns in other countries in Africa?

  • Chidi Udeh - 2015-02-12 21:29

    Hahaha jacobozumaanciology

  • Gareth Cameron - 2015-02-12 21:29

    Oh well there goes the direct foreign investment.

  • Hartmut Gneiting - 2015-02-12 21:30

    means that the price of a SA ID document will go up considerably

      Richard Nieckau - 2015-02-12 21:45

      Very true, its yet another artificial commodity to exploit.

      Richard Nieckau - 2015-02-12 21:45

      Very true, its yet another artificial commodity to exploit.

  • Nickie Sibs - 2015-02-12 21:31

    People get over yourselves, there are countless countries that don't allow foreigners to own land. Foreigners are driving the price of land and property so high the people of this country can't even afford to buy homes