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Cosatu: Strike settlement up to AgriSA

2013-01-15 22:16

Cape Town - The Congress of SA Trade Unions said on Tuesday that the ongoing farmworker's strike could be suspended as soon as Wednesday afternoon if an agreement can be reached with AgriSA, following a deal between farmers and workers in Clanwilliam.

Clanwilliam farmers had made an offer of R105 a day, which "many of the workers had accepted", and employers had also undertaken not to victimise workers and discipline them for participating in the strike, Cosatu provincial secretary Tony Ehrenreich told reporters.

"We have... the emergence of a good agreement with the farmers in Clanwilliam which we believe represents a model that will take us close to resolving the dispute sooner [rather] than later," Ehrenreich said.

"We believe that this model can be applied in all the other towns across the Western Cape and the rest of the country where workers may have come out on strike, and that this model will serve as a settlement."

Should AgriSA back the model, and not victimise or dismiss workers for participating in the strike, there was a "real possibility that the strike will be suspended [on Wednesday] if AgriSA responds by 13:00 to the CCMA", he said.

The Commission for Conciliation, Mediation, and Arbitration has been facilitating the discussions between farmers and farmworkers.

The Clanwilliam agreement had the support of the labour department and the Food and Allied Workers' Union.

Western Cape farmworkers went on strike last year to demand their daily wage be increased from R69 to R150, and that a coherent land reform programme be implemented.

The strike was suspended in December, but resumed on Wednesday last week.

At least 167 people had been arrested since then. On Monday alone 42 people were arrested, mainly for public violence.

Comments
  • patricia.dewet.92 - 2013-01-15 22:40

    What do they say they are confused, when they do not want to admid to guilt.

      nolisindiso.jonas - 2013-01-15 22:58

      You are confused as you cannot read or write English. I do not see why you are confused. Skryf maar Afrikaans

      godfrey.welman - 2013-01-15 23:49

      @Nolisindiso...and who is insulting people now? Judge not, lest you be judged.

      heinrich.etsebeth - 2013-01-16 06:12

      Nolisindo: apparently you need lessons ins comprehension. Patricia did not say that she is confused but asked if they are confused.

      jacqui.daanevanrensburg - 2013-01-16 08:09

      Nolisindo.jonas. You like insulting people you don't know?. How juvenile.

  • Simon Maabe - 2013-01-15 22:45

    The worst piad people live in DA run province and they are mum silent. Farm workers, must strike every year till they get R300 per day.

      lacrimose.wolf - 2013-01-15 22:51

      Farm workers across the country get paid the same. The law applies to the entire agri sector, not just the Western Cape.

      avremel.niselow - 2013-01-15 22:56

      Then you will pay 50 rand for a loaf of bread. How stupid are you?

      Trevor Moller - 2013-01-15 22:58

      i bet u urn more than 300 per day and u do less work than the farm labs u lazy pundit

      Kobus van Eeden - 2013-01-15 23:05

      simon u have the iq of a grape! youre probly one of thos illiterate tools..moron

      immackenzie - 2013-01-15 23:11

      I agree Simon needs a lesson in basic economics, more expensive labour means more expensive everything else. That us why we have a trade deficit cause we need to import as our labour is so expensive that we cannot afford to manufacture domestically.

      Erna - 2013-01-15 23:34

      Simon do you really think the Free State farmers are better paid? Use your brain.

      carl.debeer.33 - 2013-01-15 23:57

      Simon you have no clue on how to run a farm and make a profit, let alone how you going to pay your workers R300 a day every month.What about payment for your Diesel and other fuel etc to run the farm.....if you even qualify for a loan from the bank to feed your goats that eat stones 'cause you you don't have the money or the knowledge to grow grass.

      joe.smit.549 - 2013-01-16 01:56

      So basically, Simon, that was not a very clever comment....

      wwrer.ww - 2013-01-16 03:51

      Simon what education do you have?

      mathata.fela.7 - 2013-01-16 05:40

      Simon, I fully agree with you. They must strike every year till the ten workers that are left earn R300 a day. They will be the technical people running the mechanized equipment on the farms....lets do away with manual labor....

      lbrandcarstens - 2013-01-16 06:06

      How brainwashed are u and the two other thumbs-up? Seriously? It is people like you who keep on voting for Zuma, even though it is evident that he is economically screwing every person in SA. It is clear that you do not think for yourself.

      so.cooked.5 - 2013-01-16 06:57

      Simon, why dont YOU pay your garden boy R500 per day , or better still, pay your school fees and study some maths so you know how the real world works you troll!

      Brian Dorning - 2013-01-16 07:05

      Yes Simon, thay must do that. It will gain them automatic access to the '14000' club

      jacqui.daanevanrensburg - 2013-01-16 08:13

      Simon.Maabe. The farm workers were silent till the likes of Tony Ehrenreich and Marius Fransman wanted to score political points. You don't know what people earn in the DA run province, so don't make a fool of yourself. The farm workers earn the wages as set by your government so go complain to Minister Oliphant.

      jacqui.daanevanrensburg - 2013-01-16 08:15

      Trevor Moller. Some people do earn more than R300 a day. They went to school, studied and made something of themselves. Instead of trying to be clever here, maybe you should do something about your education too. Then you can become a brainy pundit instead of a stupid one.

      abdul.cassiem.9 - 2013-01-16 09:02

      Simon old man how much do YOU earn a day an do u think it's enough for your education level?

      richard.hipkin - 2013-01-16 09:10

      Simin sit down, we don't understand troll..

  • sillas.cilliers - 2013-01-15 22:47

    The sad thing is that farmers are going to use bigger machines and less workers resulting in job losses

      lacrimose.wolf - 2013-01-15 22:55

      Other economically-viable agri exporters have mechanised. It's only sad when you cannot feed your own nation, don't have any exports and so no foreign currency to stimulate the economy, don't have a good enough education to give people career and job choices beyond mining and agri, strangle entrepreneurship in a mountain of red tape, absurd labour laws, no infrastructure and little business and industrial development

      mark.a.fysh - 2013-01-15 23:56

      Absolutely correct LW - and whatever foreign exchange SA does produce will be drained by food imports. Go no further than Zim.

  • Trevor Moller - 2013-01-15 23:00

    Simon ur a prize oes

  • Gerald Bosch - 2013-01-15 23:07

    how come this farm workers want more money if thy want more money then the farm workers family will have no food t eat it will be to expensive to eat how sad no brain s

  • Erna - 2013-01-15 23:30

    This tony guy really likes being top dog - if only he was capable.

      jacqui.daanevanrensburg - 2013-01-16 08:20

      Erna. He likes two salaries too. One from COSATU and one from the ANC. Fair weather communists know how to feather their own nests luxuriously. Holiday home and all.

  • Erna - 2013-01-15 23:38

    It must be difficult finding a picture of tony with his mouth shut.

      lacrimose.wolf - 2013-01-16 00:20

      But many of his foot-in-mouth :P

      mark.a.fysh - 2013-01-16 01:02

      He needs to be isolated and treated

  • osmaseko - 2013-01-15 23:58

    Agri-Sa > Afr-Forum

      jacqui.daanevanrensburg - 2013-01-16 08:22

      Osmaseko. COSATU= ANC. So what's you point?.

      neiljvv - 2013-01-16 10:49

      Does Afriforum scare you ???

  • margaret.brand.12 - 2013-01-16 02:15

    Tony is an educated man but he certainly does not always use his brains with some of the comments that he passes. As far as I am concern Cosatu is more like a political party than a union. Lately the unions are doing more harm than good with there, strikes that have been turning violent along with destroying property that doesn't even belong to them There behavior is destroying this country.

  • ernest.lwandle - 2013-01-16 02:50

    105.Per day its not bad at all,but on the other hand the employers and the employees sometimes they need to develop that kind of interpersonal relationship among themselves,i mean they need to avoid middlemans interferance which is the unions into their personal disputes,the boses need not only to instruct the workers but allow them the opportunity to understand how the bussines is operating because even me i used to believe that im puting to much money into my boses pocket without knowing that he spending to much to pay the stuff,suppliers,the banks,electricity,,etc but fortunatley he is an approachable person and he understand that without us and his business hes nothing and even us without him and his business we are nothing.

      lacrimose.wolf - 2013-01-16 03:31

      It sounds like you have a boss who talks to you about all things. Good for him/her. Too many here comment and allude to the ignorance of workers without ever asking how the heck they are supposed to ever learn about all the nuances in between. Unions are very cute and clever about keeping the real story hidden and treating their members like children. Ask any agri Union members if they knew in MARCH 2012 that the R7.71/hr was signed into law for them. Ask any agri union member if they knew in MARCH 2012 that people employed by the State would be getting R29.hr - plus benes.

      ernest.lwandle - 2013-01-16 05:21

      What im trying to say Lacrimosewolf mybe though my english is bot good is that at the end people needs jobs and job owners need people to work together with them,but its sound so unfortunate to me when the politicians and unions always forcing themselves to intervene without comming with better solutions at the end instead they do put too much mistrust,miscommunication and desputes among the employers and the employees and after that they stay so far with their fat salaries.

  • Tuks Lyla - 2013-01-16 05:44

    @sean.wolf.ANC has got nothing to dooo with farming,it is a political party.indeed u ar a wolf.let the farmowners pay farmworkers because they ar making lot of money.Gone ar those days where our grandparents were working for free on the farms. Your comments shows that you ar dumb so that is why you see everything dumb

      Brian Dorning - 2013-01-16 07:00

      Sorry but i have to correct one thing from your statement. Farmers do not make a lot of money at all...its around 6% on capital invested (thats also less that inflation). I am a farmers, i know the struggles we have to go through.

      vandeventer.sarel - 2013-01-16 07:06

      And when they join the miners on the retrenchment list? What wil your response be

      jacqui.daanevanrensburg - 2013-01-16 08:25

      Tuks.Lyla, The ANC is the government who set the wages for these people. The rest of your lament is so childish it doesn't require an answer. Dumb beyond words.

      richard.hipkin - 2013-01-16 09:13

      Seems many pro-R150 a day are clueless about basic economics...

  • dwevell - 2013-01-16 06:00

    The workers should look at what is happening in the mining sector. Unfortunately it is a harsh economic reality that if you push your employer to pay more for your work than it is worth the process becomes unfeasible, businesses close down and jobs are lost. You cannot combine one of the worlds lowest worker productivity ratings with one of the worlds highest minimum wages, it doesn't make business sense

  • vandeventer.sarel - 2013-01-16 07:02

    Not long for retrenchments to follow, then i want 2 hear what tony says

  • simon.selahla - 2013-01-16 07:24

    I hope they see what Amplats is doing to they workers, if they don't wise up they will be next!

      Brian Dorning - 2013-01-16 08:37

      You mean what Amplats got forced to do by the workers and Cosatu?

  • tlotlo.phele - 2013-01-16 07:33

    @ Brian I hear your argument, its . fair to think of the struggles farm workers face with R60 per day , as for all these guys with defensive comments Poverty knows no colour, in fact around where I live its so severe among the white community that they beg on street corners.

      jacqui.daanevanrensburg - 2013-01-16 08:28

      Tlotlo.phele. Poverty is a crime again humanity. Any country that allows it to exist is a failure.

  • tlotlo.phele - 2013-01-16 07:33

    @ Brian I hear your argument, its . fair to think of the struggles farm workers face with R60 per day , as for all these guys with defensive comments Poverty knows no colour, in fact around where I live its so severe among the white community that they beg on street corners.

      Brian Dorning - 2013-01-16 08:35

      i couldn't agree with you more. The poverty is worse than statistics reveal! We live 30km from the nearest town, and we hire seasonal labour. Labour that worked for us previously get preference, and will then fill in the vacancies with new people. On the days we fill vacancies, people WALK 30km for potential employment! R60 isn't much at all, and we pay more. What is better, to employ 1000 people @ R60, or to pay R150 and only be able to hire 150? I vote hire more people at less, that way more people have food at night and don't need to turn to crime! We are a developing country, first world rules can't be enforced here.

  • kuno.tschumi.5 - 2013-01-16 07:49

    nearly 40% salary increase... is moron tony aware that the minimum salaries were agreed by the government and the unions together. why is he now the one making all the noise? why didnt he make noise when minimum salaries were set. what a bunch of w@#°#ers.

      richard.hipkin - 2013-01-16 09:14

      This is what we've been saying all along... First he said this is a farmworkers strike but he is at the forefront of it all... We not blind.

  • jacqui.daanevanrensburg - 2013-01-16 08:06

    We start the mess, now we can't handle it, so you better finish it. Typical politics of people who think their capabilities reach the moon. Looks like Tony is falling on his face........again.

  • cecilia.vanderwesthuizen.5 - 2013-01-16 08:28

    I hope Cosatu realize what they have done. They just caused more poverty. The small farms will not be able to afford this and more than half of the workers will lose their jobs. Nicely done Cosatu, I hope you can provide for these families.

  • darryl.maze1 - 2013-01-16 08:47

    This whole farmworkers strike has been politically motivated by TONY. He has caused huge amounts of damage to farms and to the harvest. Tony is nothing more than a sour grape wannabe politician. He still has a huge chip on his shoulder because Helen Zille won the western cape and he is doing everything to get it back even if it's at the farmworkers cost. Why has he not been in the frontline of the marches???? Because he is a coward and as soon as trouble starts he is the first to run away.

  • rob.bayliss.94 - 2013-01-16 08:58

    We all should consider that it is not a farmworker's wage that sets the cost of production, it IS the cost of labour! If workers are inefficient (poorly trained, lazy, badly managed etc) then more hands are needed to achieve the same output. Sadly, in SA people demand jobs, not work....so we arrive at four people at the supermarket check-out instead of one, or even better an automated system. Then we have workers demanding more pay despite being under-utilised. No easy solution, and guess who will pay for these inefficiencies!

  • rowan.maulson - 2013-01-16 09:01

    How many workers will now have to lose their jobs because of this increase?

  • petro.rossouw.94 - 2013-01-16 09:20

    Fire the lot. How can you trust them again? They behaved like hooligans. And claim the damage from their pay rises

  • lbrandcarstens - 2013-01-16 10:35

    Political statement! Clanwilliam is an ANC run area! Why would they be the only area to settle?????

  • Blixum - 2013-01-16 11:51

    Ehrenreich must be the grandson of Hitler with his Gestapo approach to problems.

  • JuditVictor - 2013-01-16 12:04

    Isn't this guy, Ehrenreich, an absolute communist? He has germanic roots, based on his surname, yet one gets the impression that he hates that side of the family. Else why would he want to destroy and nationalise. He knows those wages are not feasible. In a communistic regime (which he craves) everyone will be allocated a job working for the state for a fixed wage. But of course, when all the whites have left he will no longer be a communist. But for now destruction is uppermost.

      rude.awakning - 2013-01-16 16:33

      how do you come to these conclusions?

  • rude.awakning - 2013-01-16 16:29

    dear union bosses! (the term boss, usually refers to the owner/s of the set up?) it doesnt require rocket sience to figure out that if the agri labour cost doubles up that the farmers are going to up the selling price of their produce. Yes...that means bread, fruit , veg and meat will cost the consumer MORE! Now that we undertand that part... It will have an effect similar to when eskom hikes their tarif and the petrol price goes up! The latter are increases that you usually object to as you claim it will affect the poorest of the poor! Now who do you think is going to be paying for this increase?

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