E-tolls may push up taxi fares
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E-tolls may push up taxi fares

2013-12-03 21:40

Johannesburg - The National Taxi Alliance (NTA) have warned on Tuesday that that e-tolls would lead to an increase in taxi fares, which would ultimately seriously affect the poor.

NTA spokesperson Theo Malele said that although the government had promised that taxis would not pay, 80% of the taxis in the province did not have permits.

"About 50% of those permits are lying with the permits board. How do we apply for exemption while the playing field is not even? This is an autocratic way of doing things," he said.

The NTA has also thrown its weight behind the Congress of SA Trade Unions (Cosatu), which has vowed to continue its fight against the user-pays principle on Gauteng freeways until the government listens to the people.

Cosatu's Gauteng secretary Dumisani Dakile said its protest action would start in January.

He also called on the country's lawyers to be part of the protest and to represent, free of charge, motorists who were prosecuted.


Comments
  • JamesMWood - 2013-12-03 21:48

    "About 50% of those permits are lying with the permits board. Even so, this still implies 40% of taxis operate illigally without permits!

      Godfrey Welman - 2013-12-03 22:09

      WOW...here comes pain for ANC, major oversight.

      Consider Aswell - 2013-12-03 22:15

      Of course the powers that be must have known so many taxis are not registered, but they will whitewash the facts to brainwash the people. Another misquote coming up? Or the inconvenient truth that e-tolls rob the people of SA?

      Kevin Marsh - 2013-12-04 04:35

      50 % of taxis are doubles with duplicated number plates . Our cops are just to lazy to search these taxis and of course have you ever seen a JMPD stopping a taxi or fining them for traveling in the yellow or using the turn only lanes to go straight . No , because at peak times the lazy JMPD ate no where to be seen . Why ? Come on JMPD , tell us why you refuse to enforce safe driving laws against taxis . You are fast becoming the problem rather then the solution . People are dying and you do nothing .

      John Cryink - 2013-12-04 06:13

      Busses and taxis should also pay e-toll when a road gets used by any one it causes wear and tear that is why EVERYONE must pay.

      Leigh-Rose Jenkins - 2013-12-04 07:43

      Kevin, I'm willing to bet that half of JMPD OWN taxis...

      Dave Elmore - 2013-12-04 08:00

      According to Sanral website, taxi operators must still apply for an etag, provide Sanral with banking details, then Sanral will decide its the applicant complies with the definition of taxi operator and they will then be exempt. The taxi operator must still have a tag in their vehicle. My guess on this basis would be that there is a zero compliance with the operators

      Badger - 2013-12-04 08:05

      I thought the taxi's were Exempt from paying e-trolls. Why then push up the fares ??????? The poor are going to love this........ "Arab Spring" coming soon to a town near you..

      Dave Elmore - 2013-12-04 09:00

      @Badger, they are exempt, but they still need to apply for that exemption, they cant if they dont have a permit

      SaintBruce Bruce - 2013-12-04 13:54

      And that is the exact problem! I don't believe this NTA statement for one minute. My logic says: to not pay toll = need permit Permit = registration = regulation WE have wanted mini-bus taxis to be regulated for years and years. needs: Registered operating address Name of owner Name of driver Driver to have PrPd Passenger licence Owner to carry 3rd party liability insurance Name and details of taxi owner written on the door of the vehicle Chassis and engine numbers recorded License plate and disc to match If 10% of mini-bus taxis in South Africa comply - I would be surprised. Of course they don't have permits - they don't want regulation as that means they can be tracked, traced and actually fined. Right now they drive with absolute impunity to the law [so why should I "do the right thing" and get an eTag?]! Do you agree the NTA statement cannot be believed? The Mini-bus taxis will carry on with the same impunity as before. I demand they be regulated before SANRAL tries to regulate me! Agree?

      Konstabel Koekemoer - 2013-12-04 15:13

      I knew the taxis would be affected since most of them are not registered. In order to be registered they also need an annual road worthy check. And to buy those checks costs a lot of bribe money. The taxis will in any case ignore the e-toll demands just like they ignore traffic fines.

  • Clive Adrian Hammond - 2013-12-03 21:56

    Eish! Sorry for you! Vote anc, get your free hotdog and t-shirt! Or stand up and fight, for the first time in 20 years?

      SaintBruce Bruce - 2013-12-04 14:03

      So by inference this really means mini-bus taxis will be billed for using the Rob-us ways [formerly Freeways] until they get a permit and get eTagged? If yes - then we are going to have fun in the sun-Ral scheme! They won't register period. They will use the highways. They never pay fines [only bribes] and cannot be easily traced hence their arrogant dangerous driving as they keep getting away with it! Thinking about it - large and small busses should pay - the ratio per passenger would be very low and easily collected. It does take doing some maths though and that could be a big challenge for some....

  • Sipho Gift - 2013-12-03 22:16

    Everthing wil go up bcoz of this bunch of thieves who r arrogant we need taxis weight 2 fight this illegal taxation against us gautengers we cnt let this regime 2 bully us so they can hv more than enough 2 steal our wealth or we wil b left broke & deep in debt I refuse 2b broke I'm not gonna waist my money by invest it in e-toilet funding zuma corrupt lavish dictatorship lifestyle 2 hell with sanral & their cadres I hate poverty & I'm not gonna allow it

      JMaree - 2013-12-03 23:55

      I agree, EVERYTHING will become more expensive, (food, goods, transportation, living in SA) because EVERYTHING we see around us (in our man made cities and towns) was once transported by truck! If it costs more to transport goods, the goods will cost more to cover the increase in transportation costs!!!!

      MichAngel Justice - 2013-12-04 10:20

      Just remember its all parties involved that was and will be unjustly enriched. Motorists were not legally obliged to get an e-tag or register with Sanral, none of the information JPSA sought clarity on was contained in any of the government gazettes.

      Charissa Kemp - 2013-12-04 13:45

      Yes! I have also had ENOUGH! Why line their filthy rich pockets when we DO have REAL people in need in our country! To hell with them! It doesnt matter who we vote, just NOT ANC! We need a new change in this land!

  • Erna Speed Glitterbug - 2013-12-03 22:27

    Increase in Taxi fares? That will not even compare to the increase in accidents on the alternative poorly maintained side roads, that are now being used by the motorists!

  • WrefordWhite - 2013-12-03 22:28

    Lets hope taxi fares do escalate. Let's hit the voting majority where it hurts the most. Why should the rest of us carry the can for ANC incompetence?

  • Craig Bennetts - 2013-12-03 22:43

    They are exempted anyway,WTF??

      Andrew Dorfling - 2013-12-03 22:48

      How do prove that a taxi is in fact a taxi....it has to have a permit and the majority of them don't have one and will thus be treated like all other motorists.

      Mc Segal - 2013-12-03 23:59

      How is Sanral going to send an unregistered taxi driver an account..??

      Neil Du Plessis - 2013-12-04 06:48

      The taxis are only exempt on a particular route, for which they have to apply for a permit. In all likelihood, it's THESE applications that are lying with the permits board, NOT the application to operate as a taxi in the first place. I can also understand why the taxis should be exempt from the tolls. A taxi carrying 9 passengers goes through a toll gate and gets charged R10. Do you think the cost will be split evenly between the 9 passengers, or would each passenger be charged R10? Most likely the latter. It would be giving the taxi operators a licence to print money!

  • Kuhlekonke Kuna - 2013-12-03 23:10

    I would like to ask the government if there's even one,what is free nowadays in South Africa? We as Loyal Citizens are charged for even using the roads now,if there's a hack in taxi fare it will hit the poor in a massive way because even now some families can't barely survive on their earnings as we speak.

      JMaree - 2013-12-04 00:37

      We're sorry, the anc government isn't taking any calls at the moment,("We're counting the money we stole from SA's people!"), if you would like to leave a message ("which we will probably NEVER listen too), please do so after the election and we will get back to you as soon as possible. ("Be patient like those gullible people who are still waiting, after 20 years, for our promised service delivery...")

  • mariannechris - 2013-12-03 23:23

    The ANC thieves are directly stealing from law-abiding South Africans - the poor and middle class will feel it especially badly. That R100, R200, R300, R400 is DIRECTLY taking food out of children's mouths, school books off their tables, clothes off their backs, medicine out of their mouths, shelter off their heads, pencils out of their hands and much, much more. This is the REAL TRAGEDY. And why we MUST OPPOSE this with ALL OUR MIGHT. Not just for ourselves, but for those who can least afford it.

  • Cry Mashiane - 2013-12-04 01:12

    Well I think cosatu needs to shut up now because they're just toothless but always barking and why would they bite the hand(anc) that feeds them? In january they'll be supporting etolls.

  • Mpho Selepe - 2013-12-04 01:35

    Permits or no permit,i say i will welcome the NTA's harvoc,thats is some serous weight right there. One day of protest with the taxi drivers willwreck enough harvoc to bring the eTolls,trust me,it will be worth it....NTA any moment now!...

      Konstabel Koekemoer - 2013-12-04 15:17

      And I feel sorry for those who have a tag fitted to their windscreen, when the taxi drivers/owners's start their protests they will definately target anyone with a tag.

  • Jason Jaded - 2013-12-04 03:57

    Oh, this IS going to be good to watch. *Grabs the popcorn*

  • Grant Wykerd - 2013-12-04 04:43

    @Siyanda - this is not ludicrous, this is ZANC... There will be no stop to the etoll unless you vote for someone else next year. No Zuma led ANC (ZLANC), no etoll - choose wise but do choose; please don't sit and watch the election outcome, make your mark and make it count...

  • Desiree.D.Rowe - 2013-12-04 05:43

    wether the taxis pay or not its iirelevant. The price of taxis would go up regardless why because the owners will take any advantage to get more money.o

  • Warwick Railton - 2013-12-04 06:07

    Everything will go up including unemployment, that's a certain. It's your civic duty to resist these tolls!

  • Solly Vander Tema - 2013-12-04 06:54

    Obviously everything will increase tnx 2ANC n their supporters

  • Leon Pieterse - 2013-12-04 07:13

    This is opportunism at it's best. No taxi diver/owner will in any case ever pay their e-toll bills!

  • Daryn Varney - 2013-12-04 07:29

    OK, so all you arrogant idiots that were posting on here that you don't care about e-tolls because they don't affect you (even though this will affect the pricing of everything on the shop shelf but you were too blind to see the bigger picture) where are you now, how do you feel about this?

  • Emma Sanderson - 2013-12-04 07:34

    I hope it does because that is the one industry govt is clearly scared of taking on. None of us should be paying. If you bought an e-tag it is not too late - leave it at home like the Germans did. If we stand together - this will fail. Delay the invoice process, demand proof etc - let the system crash because this should never have been implemented in the first place. This is just a cash cow for the ANC pension fund. Bottom line - govt wants more money and is thus enforcing this on us. We should demand to see SANRAL's books. We want to know how much money was paid in via the fuel levy and exactly what has been done with it. I hope journalists are following the money trail. There is not just one rat here there are many, from the people benefiting from the overpriced tenders to backhands from Kapsch.

  • Johan Bester - 2013-12-04 07:53

    This was a oversight on ANC & NTA’s part I see blood shed on the horizon. The eTollie thing become more and more fun and complex for ANC & sanral…It’s time to start eating your pudding!!!

  • Papanyani Mnandi - 2013-12-04 08:26

    if the taxis join the fight , then am sure that will shall win the war of e-toll.i trust taxi industry than COSATU LOL, all the Nongoma,nkandla,ulundi , emnambithi guys must be transported to Gauteng for the fight against e-toll , this time we need them and I know Zuma is also scared of Zulu warriors

  • Tshidi Rantai - 2013-12-04 08:48

    Exactly what inform illegally run business to rise fees. Well there's bus services to counter that.

  • Serole Magopa - 2013-12-04 08:55

    The principle of basic economic will prevail regardless of this. Petrol carriers will pay for etoll, distributors of spares will also pay, thus passing the etoll cost to the taxi operator, the price of consummables will escalate and the profit from the taxi industry will shrink, the price of bribing the JMPD officials will increase....and when this happens people, the taxi fare will be raised!

  • Mike_or_Mpho - 2013-12-04 09:19

    I will be more than happy to pay e-tolls if it cleans up the taxi industry. Force the taxis to register and charge these taxi companies tax. Implement a law forcing taxis to insure their vehicles and drivers with a minimum 3rd party insurance. Also, enforce the demerit system and you will find that the carnage on our roads will dramatically reduce. But again, the current government is incapable of enforcing the simplest of laws...

  • Thami Lawrence Ngubeni - 2013-12-04 09:20

    These are the right guys to get on board, these ones(taxis) I trust with my life, they can cause chaos and block these highways. That's the reason why SANRAL said they were exempted from using e-tolls, they knew they were not going to control them.

  • Sonnyboy Mathebula - 2013-12-04 09:23

    GOOD BYE ANC!! HALLO DA!!!

  • Wian de Villiers - 2013-12-04 09:29

    A new can of worms . .. How can they operate without having a permit? We couldn't even move a guys suitcase without having a permit, they have 16 odd passengers with no permits?

  • Colin Ashby - 2013-12-04 09:58

    @ Dave, i hope the taxi's with etags have sudden amounts of money removed from their accounts by scamral, this will be interesting to see.

  • Rory Neil Price - 2013-12-04 10:37

    Good news that will start rolling mass action, something will have to give

  • jwadsworth - 2013-12-04 11:00

    How can I invest in a permit and three blow up dolls as passengers? I can do a taxi and squeeze in at least another 3 dolls, if one is sitting on the hand brake, I get a vice grip to replace the steering wheel and another two in the back. I am doing my bit for the sex / taxi industry and I do not have to pay eTolls.

  • MeLee Okay - 2013-12-04 11:35

    Why was my comment from early this morning deleted?

  • Richard - 2013-12-04 12:09

    So are they then operating illegally. If not authorised Taxis then they need to pay but in fact should be taken off the roads as taxis.

  • Henk Theron - 2013-12-04 12:52

    LOL! Kry vir julle! The sheeple will still vote for plANCs. you get what you voted for.

  • Zama Airy Mvulane - 2013-12-04 13:16

    That's a blue lie! Public transport operators can apply for exemption from paying e-toll fees and thus far a total of 45 700 public transport operators have been exempted from paying e-tolls in Gauteng!

      Ridwan Halim - 2013-12-04 15:51

      45700 out of how many? that's probably the tip of the iceberg! Bold statement man! Bold statement

  • Robbie Crouch - 2013-12-05 09:51

    HKGK (while giggling with derision) Bwhahahahaha

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