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E-tolls going ahead - minister

2012-10-26 10:46

Pretoria - The Gauteng e-toll system will be implemented, Transport Minister Ben Martins said on Friday.

"Cabinet at its meeting on Wednesday... decided that Sanral should proceed with the implementation of e-tolling," Martins told reporters in Pretoria.

"Today, the department of transport gazetted the toll tariffs and regulations for public comment."

Martins said that at the end of the 30 days, after government had considered the public's views, the final tariffs would be published.

Government has proposed that toll fees for e-tag users be capped at R550 a month for light vehicles, Martins said.

"Registering for an e-tag account will provide users with the lowest possible toll fees," he said.

"Following the consultations, we have lowered tariffs, reduced caps in all categories, offered discounts on tagged vehicles and during peak hours, and exemptions on public transport."

According to a Sanral presentation there were three different tariffs for different class of vehicles.

The standard tariff for a normal car, or Class A vehicle, was 58c/km.

The e-tag tariff was based on 30c/km.

 

Comments
  • charlesbronson.bronson - 2012-10-26 10:49

    cANCer thief's

      charlesdumbwin.dumbwin - 2012-10-26 10:56

      Of course it's going ahead!!! Eish, this ANC regime is making life so hard for us poor South Africans. Only the ANC elite are getting richer!!!

      Shaun - 2012-10-26 10:57

      IF THEIR E-TOLL GOES AHEAD, SO WILL OUR RESISTANCE.DOWN WITH CORRUPTION,DOWN WITH WASTEFUL EXPENDITURE,DOWN WITH MILKING THE MIDDLE CLASS!!!!

      maree.cassie - 2012-10-26 11:12

      And I am going ahead in not partaking!!!

      guy.rice - 2012-10-26 11:17

      E-Tolls Never. Sign our petition! http://www.avaaz.org/en/petition/Freedom_of_access_to_information/?launch

      christopher.mccormick.127 - 2012-10-26 11:27

      No.

      mable.jacobs.90 - 2012-10-26 11:28

      Please S.A. make this undoable.DO NOT register.They're taking more than enough in taxes and doing crap..

      daleinn - 2012-10-26 11:31

      is Cosatu trying to negotiate a lower rate, or assist the citizens in abolishing an already burdened economy??

      daleinn - 2012-10-26 11:33

      is Cosatu trying to negotiate a lower rate, or assist the citizens in abolishing it , as we deal with an already heavy burdened economy?? no jobs, people starving.. surely tolls is not the solution???

      patrick.buckley.712 - 2012-10-26 11:34

      That's what you think Ben................ Let the games begin!

      susan.paul.330 - 2012-10-26 11:41

      Zuma gets an underground bunker, and we get e-toll, nice one Zuma...

      ron.rielander - 2012-10-26 11:47

      D O - N O T - R E G I S T E R

  • adrian.snyman.16 - 2012-10-26 10:49

    I read this as: E-Tolls are going ahead - no matter what the public says. Public says "No", your move ...

      moriri.mosweu - 2012-10-26 10:52

      Do not tell me what to do,bully.

      konstabel.koekemoer - 2012-10-26 11:23

      Good luck to SANRAL on collecting the money. How many Gautengers don't bother to pay their fines, servuies, rates & taxes, debts etc. Now you think they will pay the tolls? Even if people are stupid enough to get an e-tag it does not mean there is any money in the e-tag purse. Unless they agreed to a debit order, but I don't think anyone can be that brain dead to allow SANRAL to automatically debut their bank accouunt.

      jacobus.vandermerwe.9 - 2012-10-26 11:24

      WE WON'T PAY: http://www.facebook.com/boycottetoll

      clifford.sithole.5 - 2012-10-26 11:58

      I travel by Taxi...Thay are exempt Thank goodness

  • jerry.govender.94 - 2012-10-26 10:52

    Screw you SANRAL

      stevie0064 - 2012-10-26 11:11

      Technically, this is government's baby. Sanral is just doing what government told them to do. Government also instructed theeit own pension fund to heavily invest in this scheme (hence it will be forced through), so we should also be asking Pravin Gordhan why he's so comfortable with a scheme that will make the poor poorer.

  • michael.a.devilliers - 2012-10-26 10:52

    Last time I checked this was a DEMOCRACY. So no. Also without everyone buying e-tags your implementation WILL fail. Along with the post office.

  • sean.murphy.165 - 2012-10-26 10:52

    And if 100% of the public views say the tolls should be scrapped? Will they be scrapped? I doubt it. So much for public participation. There is too much money to be made by those in charge. I will not get an e-tag.

  • leenesh.singh - 2012-10-26 10:53

    Never

  • tumisang.kolobe - 2012-10-26 10:55

    I told you, it's only fair that the users of the roads pay for ther maintance of such roads,Pay as ou use period

      cameronrh1 - 2012-10-26 11:05

      Why do we pay a tax on fuel? To fund road maintenance... That was the purpose of tax on fuel. But of course in ANCircus fashion, nothing gets spent on what it was originally meant for. Not going to be milked by a bunch of thieving fools.

      BigChiefPlumbPudding - 2012-10-26 11:11

      The roads have been paid for over and over again, several times already. We're not paying again. We get almost 0 return of services for our TAX as it is. It's not the public's fault the useless ANC have drained all our Tax money away due to theft, fraud, corruption, mismanagement, personal gain etc. We're not paying again. Next time look after our Tax money in a more responsible manner, and you will see there is plenty of money to pay for these and other improvements.

      tumisang.kolobe - 2012-10-26 11:22

      Something had to give anyway, the roads cannot cope with such high amount of cars on the streets, people need to start using available public transport like the gautrain, the roads cannot cope with this kind of abuse, there is always maintanance taking place on the N1 and M1, this makes the government to only focus and channel funds on that part of the highwaym while they have already investing in transport facilities such as the gautrain for people to use, we need the money from mainatance to be used to develop rural areas roads like the eastern cape

  • eva.walle.75 - 2012-10-26 10:57

    Steal from the tax paying minority. Shove as much of in your back pocket. If there's some change left, toss it at the poor.

      danielle.vlok - 2012-10-26 11:28

      No Eva, you clearly understand- not even the change goes to the poor- change goes to the KFC lunch fund.

      eva.walle.75 - 2012-10-26 11:39

      They buy their votes so they need to budget for that

      danielle.vlok - 2012-10-26 11:46

      Too true!

  • khethu.ndlovu.3 - 2012-10-26 10:58

    Going ahead...@ your own peril, mass protests will hit you like nothing ever did, its your down fall.

  • veldt66 - 2012-10-26 10:59

    That's about €55 a month, even in Europe the public will riot.

  • toni.k.mcquillen - 2012-10-26 11:00

    And the poor & working class will suffer the most, all our cost of living will go up, like it isn't enough with Eskom increasing our electricity, I can only predict more striking with this, as people will need the increases just to survive! We should all simply not purchase the E-Toll tags, there are far too many of us to implement a system the public refuse to use.

  • richard.zanner - 2012-10-26 11:01

    And they still have to give us a break down of the costs which they refuse to do. What happened to transparency.

  • david.reddy.18 - 2012-10-26 11:01

    The money was already recovered from the recent high petrol price hikes.Now they want to screw us to fill up their fat bellies even more

  • christina.setloboko - 2012-10-26 11:03

    I'm also going ahead resisting!!! for heavens sake leave us alone.

  • SarelJBotha - 2012-10-26 11:03

    NOTICE: I strictly reserve my rights to use the roads and highways of the country, free of charge and hindrance, under common law. I have no intention nor need to contract with SANRAL.

  • veldt66 - 2012-10-26 11:05

    Driving in Gauteng will be more expensive than in Europe.

  • dewald.galjaard - 2012-10-26 11:08

    Not they not.

  • warren.carne.9 - 2012-10-26 11:09

    Catch me if you can,I'm not paying for this crap

  • antonie.ras - 2012-10-26 11:14

    You can go to hell SANRAL!!I am the tax payer, which makes me the boss!!

  • honourablejsh.khakhu - 2012-10-26 11:15

    To Hell with ANC n ZUMA

  • neilpretorius83 - 2012-10-26 11:18

    Whenever possible, those driving between PTA and JHB should just take alternative routes. It'll be our peaceful way of spitting in the face of government.

  • mpumelelo.matross - 2012-10-26 11:18

    This is what happens when you sell your country in pieces. Let the R240 million intended for the "Puppet" go towards e-tolls. The rest must be returned by those thieving fools in government and municipalities and that'll solve the problem. I for one am not paying for e-tolls. What a cheek!!!!

  • charmaine.rowlands - 2012-10-26 11:18

    No e-tags on my cars - EVER!!! Shove it where the sun don't shine!!

  • stefan.vanderspuy - 2012-10-26 11:21

    I workand live in Pretoria. I travel through the suburbs to work. So tough SAMRAL, you ain't going to be making much out of me!

      stefan.vanderspuy - 2012-10-26 11:22

      That should be SANRAL...

      mlondolozi.matshini - 2012-10-26 11:30

      or you can just move to the free state......

      gavin.ray.102 - 2012-10-26 12:12

      how long until Bloem has toll gates everywhere? no one is safe

      sagin.verity - 2012-10-26 12:34

      mlondolozi, if they are able to force it through in johannesburg, you can be guaranteed it will be rolled out in the other provinces soon after. The anc is only about creating as many ways to milk you, me and everyone in south africa for as much as they can. It does not matter where you move zuma and his cronies will have their hands in your pocket.

  • luke.dekoker - 2012-10-26 11:22

    The CancER crooks and SANRAL can go and jump.. NO E-TAG will be bought by me or my family, and I hope no other road users!! I'll wait for your invoice.

  • Johannes Petrus Kemp - 2012-10-26 11:23

    i see alot of the back roads getting very congested, then they will need to broaden these roads and soon every public road will have some or other toll system implemented, mark my words

  • kobus.groenwald - 2012-10-26 11:23

    I am totally against the e-tolling, but it seems to me that a citizen's voice means nothing in this country, which is supposedly to be Democratic. We are already heavily taxed (we are one of the highest taxed countries in the world). We pay a levy on the fuel for roads, part of our P.A.Y.E. tax goes to Roads and now they are FORCING the e-toll tax on us and we do not really have a say in the matter. So this protest really means squat! R 2 billion can go to other countries as a loan (If they can do this, how come we had to procure a loan to have our roads fixed?) The concrete highway which lasted for more than 20 years without any problems just had to be resurfaced with tar. I want to know why? This was not necessary. There was nothing wrong with the concrete surface. The tarring is only going to last for a very short time (they have already started re-tarring some areas) and then they will have to resurface it again and again and again…, very very clever S.A.N.R.A.L. My final question. When the loan has been repaid, what is going to happen to the e-tolling funds, all going back into the coffers and being used for road maintenance? Will they then remove the fuel levy and what about my personal tax, the bit that goes to the upkeep of our National Roads?

      chris.attie - 2012-10-26 11:39

      http://www.news24.com/SouthAfrica/News/Govt-staying-mum-on-jetsetting-Motlanthe-20121024 theres your answer Kobus!

  • eugene.muller.7 - 2012-10-26 11:25

    We say NO...my second of public comment.

  • Duncan Colter - 2012-10-26 11:25

    Not gonna happen. Time for all to unite against a common foe. Let's go Cosatu. Juju and all supporters!!

  • ayanda.damani.77 - 2012-10-26 11:25

    Yah thats good news.

  • maria.ferreira1234 - 2012-10-26 11:26

    Well.. I ain't gonna register......

  • josh.friedman.712 - 2012-10-26 11:30

    Hardly anyone realizes the real problem is the high tariff for the trucks that will carry our food, fuel and other essentials... whether we pay for our individual cars or not, this is going to lead to huge inflation on our necessities!! All because the cANCer has invested its pension fund into this etolling... IT MUST BE STOPPED!!!!!!!

  • neil.ross.5473 - 2012-10-26 11:36

    Not buying a tag. Ever. And it's going to cost sanral more to process and post me the bill than the 3km of highway I use on Saturdays. All that effort for 90c? Idiots.

  • kosta.kalarytis - 2012-10-26 11:37

    They can go ahead, but we're not...

  • sbisschoff - 2012-10-26 11:38

    Oh my word! R550 per light vehicle?! That is an absolute shocker and should NEVER be allowed.

  • tiaan.vlok.3 - 2012-10-26 11:38

    Why wasn't the R200 Mil spent on JZ's homestead not used as a downpayment on the debt for the new roads instead?

  • danielle.vlok - 2012-10-26 11:43

    Anyone know anything about setting up a trust into which all TAX monies can be paid? I think perhaps we should all pay only for the services we actually receive.

  • chiepner - 2012-10-26 11:43

    After considering public view? Tell me Mr Minister. With this entire E Toll debacle has the government ever considered the publics opinion? Add to this those hidden little agreements and costs worked into this enitre thing one wonders whom exactly from the ANC Elite will benifit from this massive project? Will we 3 years down the line find out one of Mr Zuma's wifes is a share holder at SANRAL and earns massive amounts of money for who knows what? Please note I'm not saying this is so so before Blade fires into me and the rent a crowd gets called into action for trying to get my point accross. I would like to know - what exactly is SANRAL hiding from the paying public regarding this entire project and then I would also inform you that your lack of planning and consulting the stake holders (us puny stupid public commuters whom is also the bulk of your customers) you have managed to open a entire can of worms that seems to epitomise everything that is wrong with the current ruling elite (my friend do you want a tender) ANC blood leeches that has in the past 4 years ran this country into the ground, but then again its okay because everything that is happening now is still apartheids fault.

  • roi.boss1 - 2012-10-26 11:43

    You want good roads and highways how do you expect the government to pay for them. There is nothing for free, I support the government because you people would also mourn if the roads were in a bad state so I would rather you mourn while you pay and I hope the tickets for the dodgers are four times the monthly fees

      danielle.vlok - 2012-10-26 11:50

      I expect the government to pay for the roads- with the TAX money they get. Instead of allowing Government to steal hundreds of millions- I expect them to use it for building and maintaining the countries infrastructure. If I no longer have to pay income tax, then I will gladly pay for e-tolls- but I don't see that happening- EVER!

      Teuneman - 2012-10-26 11:55

      What are fuel levies for? Why do we pay so much tax? A minister can drive a polo vivo and have a middle class income not outrageous slaries like they do. Politicians are not as important as they think and for some reason Africa politicians think they are gods. Save tax payers money and use THAT for roads!

      chiepner - 2012-10-26 12:15

      I pay taxes. Have been for the past 15 years or so. Most of those tax money that got allocated to The Depratment Of Transport was reallocated into various stake holders pockets. Did you ask yourself why is everything getting so damn expensive? Well let me help you there. When you fix a pot hole what should cost 5 rand now cost 10 because when you get paid 5 rand you need to pay another 5 rand to the corrupt dude that gave you that contract. He then presents the final costing to his superiors whom also works in there cut and before you know it our minister of finance gets asked to make the budget bigger because costs has risen. This means more tax payers money gets allocated to a corrupt department whom does not use it to fix and upgrades our roads but rather find ways to siphon away a bit more. Now E Tolls gets rolled out because that money is not allowed to be used. It needs to get diverted into corrupt pockets. So Sir, excuse me for pointing out the obvious - yes we want better roads and infrastructure, but to pay taxes on this which openly just dissapears and then expect us to pay again is day light robbery. The government is struggling to pay their suppliers on ALL fronts from hospitals to roads to you name it. Its not because there is not enough money its because waistfull expenditure like Pres Zuma vanity upgrade of his village is deemed much more important than using those funds to provide for the people of South Africa.

      nadia.graf.50 - 2012-10-26 12:18

      I expect them to use the money I already pay in taxes, Vat, Fuel levies etc.

  • delani.mgabhi - 2012-10-26 11:43

    its high time now we know exactly why should not vote for this gvt of the anc no mater how many south african can cry they dnt care abt us poor people i urge all south african not to vote for anc anymore i wonder whose that individual who benefited in this or is the minister of transport cos that is the case in our gvt lets vote them out pls nd lets keep on toy toying to get better wages thats the only way

  • erna.speed - 2012-10-26 11:44

    According to an interview on radio this morning - DO NOT register for eTolling. This is a failed system, as already proven in other countries. The publics views are being asked - only as a front, that they've considered the public. I see - the easiest way of counting the votes from the public, would be those that would be in favour of the eTolling system - show them - where are they???!!! And then, the rest of the country is against it.

  • triumphant.voice.58 - 2012-10-26 11:47

    Rise, rise and rise again until Lambs become Lions!

  • Teuneman - 2012-10-26 11:48

    Burn the e-toll buildings! The anc are robbing us all. Black, white, colored, indian.

  • carolyn.myburgh - 2012-10-26 11:51

    Why have 30 days for the public to respond MORONS we will not PAY EVER!!!

  • luca.delbianco.3 - 2012-10-26 11:52

    Only fools have would thought that Etolls would not go ahead! SA wake up!

  • victor.mahasha - 2012-10-26 11:52

    They really dont care about us, lets pray for the downfall of the ANC.

  • mlacomme - 2012-10-26 11:53

    "FACTS REVEALED ON 702 Yesterday MORNING Re. THE e-TOLL TAG. * Less than 10 000 registered e-Tag's. * The system is not manageable for cars travelling on the highways without an e-Tag. * The Ben Schoeman Highway between PTA & JHB carries 300 000 cars per day. * The e-Tag system is a dismal failure so far. * The latest R1.75 p/km is a last bid from the government to force us to buy this e-Tag so they can get the 98% of the pension money back they've spend on the toll roads. * You DON'T HAVE TO BUY THE e-TAG. If we all stand together, THIS SYSTEM CAN BE STOPPED. DO NOT get an e-TAG and THE SYSTEM WILL FAIL. Please pass on….. 300 000 x R1.75 = R 525000.00 per day people and that’s only at one gate. What are they going to do with this money? It is not just one day – it will be everyday! Once it is up and running, they’ll increase the price and you have no come-back! They have already loaded the petrol price for compensation to the Pension Funds. Do not register, read the terms and conditions before you register. By registering you agree to those terms and conditions. The terms and conditions only benefit SANRAL, and put you at jeopardy." "1.75 per km for 300 000 cars like above works out to 525 000 per km, it costs 1 000 000 to tar a kilometer of road, which means they can re tar the entire highway from pta to jhb every bloody 2 days, WHAT ARE WE PAYING FOR?????????????????????????"

  • gavin.green.7798 - 2012-10-26 11:54

    SCAMREL is going to work very hard cleaning up my mess/rubbish on these highways to erne my R550.

  • nkosi.khumalo.33 - 2012-10-26 11:57

    The minister and the government enjoy my undivided support! Why are joburg people so selfish? Why do they want us in KZN with roads that riddled with pot holes to pay for their world class roads through a fuel levy or tax? Developed nations use e-tolling, isn't that what we want? To be developed? Viva e-tolls Viva.

  • phae.rayden - 2012-10-26 11:59

    Even though I'm from WP its fantastic to see resistance to E-tolls standing firm. GO GP! No need to destroy cameras or cables, no need to run riot, just a collective refusal to register or pay. This will destroy the idea that due to mismanagement and corruption, the public can be made to pay for governments incompetence. If we stand strong they will have to think twice before trying to implement other crooked systems behind our backs.

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