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E-toll rate 30 cents per km - report

2012-10-26 08:08

Johannesburg - The government gazette relating to e-tolling in Gauteng says that tariffs for motorists with e-tags will be set at 30 cents per kilometre, according to a report in the Star newspaper on Friday.

Standard rates for those without e-tags are more than double this amount.

Quoting the gazette, The Star said users without e-tags who pay their toll fees within 30 days will be given a 60% discount.

A monthly cap on heavy vehicles has also been included.

Cars and motorbikes are capped at a maximum of R550 a month, class B (small heavy vehicles) at R1 750 and class C (large heavy vehicles) at R3 500.

It is unclear when e-tolling will begin.

Government was expected to make an announcement on e-tolling later on Friday.

This week, cabinet approved the gazetting of terms and conditions, including updated tariffs.

There would be a 30-day period for public comment. The government would then incorporate the comments and publish its final position after 14 days.

The 30-day period expires one day before the start of the judicial review of e-tolling on November 26.


Comments
  • robes.spear - 2012-10-26 08:17

    Bring it on .... we still wont pay!!!!

      andrew.crawley.73345 - 2012-10-26 08:21

      probably , in the end , you will ! this time next year you will be paying

      jacobus.vandermerwe.9 - 2012-10-26 08:27

      http://www.facebook.com/boycottetoll

      elgh.elgh - 2012-10-26 08:30

      In the beginning 60c, now 30c. They obviously based the rate per km on the money that they borrowed and so forth. You cannot all of a sudden half that amount as that doubles the time you need to pay back the loan. This yet again proves to all of us that the initial 60c/km was a thumb suck based on greed and not a clearly worked out rate per km.

      maree.cassie - 2012-10-26 08:31

      I agree!!! NOT BUYING!

      thabang.bonang.7 - 2012-10-26 08:36

      Prices valid for 1 month.

      neil.frandsen - 2012-10-26 08:58

      Why are they so gunho about e-tags if they can monitor you anyway? If they are able to charge you more than double for not having an e-tag, what is the relvance of the tag? Just bill accordingly! The sad thing is I think I know the answer to the question, they want you to sign a contract which absolves your rights as a citizen! that and someone owns shares in an e-tag factory.

      andrez.kolesky - 2012-10-26 09:19

      http://www.iol.co.za/motoring/industry-news/aa-stickers-to-assist-e-toll-fight-1.1216741#.UIo5LsXMjN0

      raath - 2012-10-26 09:45

      The Government Gazette online version is here: http://www.greengazette.co.za/documents/national-gazette-35756-of-25-october-2012-vol-568_20121025-GGN-35756 Everyone! Go and comment and raise your concerns. We have 30 days to respond, and if enough people respond with concerns and issues, they will need to have another look and maybe get it thrown out.

      beverly.young3 - 2012-10-26 09:53

      I agree, I live 1000 kilomters from the nearest toll........I cant think that I will be going near a city that has tolls....I will NEVA pay.......really, they must think we are total idiots.

      lorain.maseko - 2012-10-26 11:21

      Sitting behind a computer and complaingn wont help, we all need to do something drastic about this.

  • typersa.baddy - 2012-10-26 08:17

    Still not paying a cent. The only way I will buy an e-tag is if you pay me to drive on your highway!! So take ur crap tag and shove it where the sun don't shine!!

  • andre.marx - 2012-10-26 08:18

    SANRAL is clearly suffering from wishfull thinking.

  • customdesign - 2012-10-26 08:25

    The cap is still the same- so for commuters from Pta to Jhb it isn't any different than before.

      irene.buthelezi.1 - 2012-10-26 11:09

      Exactly! They obviously think we're all thick and can't figure this one out. When taxi's pay, I'll think about paying, but so long as they ride for free, so will I.

  • sedeshan - 2012-10-26 08:25

    Well this really brightens my day...

  • richard.zanner - 2012-10-26 08:25

    Rates with and without E-Tags is nothing but blatant blackmail.

  • justice.league.9469 - 2012-10-26 08:25

    Can just see how much food and other consumables prices going to rise to cover for the increased transport costs. If they do implement the system lets hope everyone is accountable: Taxi's, busses and government vehicles!

  • Duncan Colter - 2012-10-26 08:27

    Time for the crushing blow people. Don't pay. Throw bills in the paper recycle bin!

  • neil.swart - 2012-10-26 08:27

    DO NOT BUY AN E-TAG!!! Save on toilet paper and wipe with the fines they send you! This way government will start working for you!!!

  • rowan.maulson - 2012-10-26 08:28

    Oh, 30c a km.. Yes I'm going to go off and buy my etag now... NOT. Morons, they don't have a clue that no matter what they do, if they implement e-tolling there will be civil disobedience

  • denis.delaport - 2012-10-26 08:30

    I am pleased the toll will be charged to those who use it. I do not understand why a boycott movement has gained momentum around the e-toll environment. If the objection is on the basis of what has been mentioned in the media then why do the "Objectors" pay their taxes, pay their property Tax, pay their TV Licenses, Pay their traffic fines etc etc etc. Have the “Objectors” just been “outed” as lawless citizens. Seems to me they want the benefit but are unwilling to pay for the use of it.

      thechrisberryshow - 2012-10-26 08:47

      I'm objecting BECAUSE I pay income tax, fuel tax, tv licenses, property tax, assessment tax, car licenses, traffic fines. Call me old fashioned but I think I pay enough to the government already and they should cough up the cash to maintain / upgrade roads out of THAT money - instead of syphoning it off by pilfering, corruption and obvious personal greed. I don't want the benefit. In fact I still don't see the benefit of being tolled because the government slapped together an extra lane and caused 3 years of inconvenience doing so. I never asked for it, and if the general public were aware that the "benefit" would be paid for with a steep toll, before the GFIP commenced - it wouldn't have commenced - government departments have echoed that statement. Have yourself a nice day.

      Duncan Colter - 2012-10-26 08:50

      What do you think the taxes, fines, tv licence etc pay for sunshine? The roads being tolled were paid for decades ago. Hence, all the objections

      glenn.chi.9 - 2012-10-26 08:51

      Denis, you miss the point. No one is saying we don't want to pay for upgraded roads and infrastructure, we are saying that the methodology of collecting the tariff is flawed - up to half of what we pay will be for collection costs! What others are saying is that put it into the fuel levy - the collection costs are zero (as they already collect the fuel levy) and the entire collection can be used to maintain the roads. Then they come with the "user pays" principle and why should someone in ECape pay additional fuel levy. I say, they don't, just increase the fuel levy in Gauteng, its not that hard! But what about people in Gauteng who don't use the highways you ask? Well, looking past the 1st derivative and into the unintended consequences of tolling, people who historically did use the highways will now use alternative ("back road") routes, which means that these routes will become congested and frustrate the people who don't historically use the highways. Plus, because tradesmen (plumbers, builders etc) and delivery companies will now be hit with massive increases in transport costs, they will start using the back roads and because these are now trucks using these roads, these roads will start to deteriorate very quickly. And guess what, the fuel levy will have to increase so that we can maintain these road now too (because you can't toll back roads). And when that happens, all the people who don't use the highways will end up paying anyway! Just use the fuel levy!

      sheik.mohammad.378 - 2012-10-26 08:57

      You are paying at present. You seem to miss the point of "user pays" i.e. Fill your car with fuel which has been taxed to cover roads and repair.Now..................Drive and you pay through useage, don't drive and the obvious takes place.

      pieter.kunz - 2012-10-26 08:58

      I personally feel that gauteng generates by far the biggest tax income and therefor we have paid for this upgrade hands down over and over. Tolling gauteng where most of the big hubs are will have a ver negative impact on the rest of the country.

      chris.shield - 2012-10-26 09:11

      That is the very reason we refuse to pay, we've already paid! Fuel levy, PAYE, VAT, CGT, emmissions tax, annual licence fee's the list goes on and on. Those roads were built with our tax money in the first place! Why must we pay more now that they have been upgraded? They should've been upgraded 10 years ago, this is why we pay tax. Sorry but we've been squeezed enough..

      neil.frandsen - 2012-10-26 10:28

      People seem content with an increase in the fuel levy. The only point here is that we pay tax and tax MUST be used for roads. We have already paid for these upgrades. The tax doesnt get used to build new hospitals schools etc, and god knows they dont use the tax for the eskom infrastructure. All they use tax for is SAA which essentially is a luxury, explain that to me? Further to this what do I pay tax for? I then on top of it need to pay for medical aid, private school, toll, private security, service delivery and pretty much everything else. What they are doing is illegal, these proposed toll roads are commuter routes.

  • erick.mamba - 2012-10-26 08:31

    Its just a sweetner, the rates will shoot-up once all motorists hav bought the tags.. The govt mst stop wasting resources trying to force the issue. WE JUST DONT HAVE MONEY

  • larry.piggott1 - 2012-10-26 08:33

    I am still not going to pay, regardless of how much they drop the fee. Its a rip-off, clear and simple.

  • phoofolo.lebohang - 2012-10-26 08:35

    This R550.00 its for weekly petrol... Before 1994 we wasn't pay for unnecesary staff. No one must pay this...

      sheik.mohammad.378 - 2012-10-26 08:59

      There are elections those who are hard pressed can use.

  • paballo.mogorosi - 2012-10-26 08:36

    Let me get this right, is the government saying that motorbikes fall in the exact SAME class as cars??? Surely, motorbikes should be charged at a a lower rate than cars & trucks?

  • thechrisberryshow - 2012-10-26 08:36

    think I'll pay 0 cents instead, thanks anyway......

  • Ketshabile - 2012-10-26 08:38

    Even if its 1cent. No south africans must pay 4 those E-tolls. Wats wrong with this useless Government

  • darryl.maze1 - 2012-10-26 08:40

    Take your 30c ANC and E-toll and put it where the sun dont shine. We the Majority have said NO. ANC government and E-Toll you are the Minority and because of that you do not have the power. If you proof about this Majority and manority power go look what our well educated president said a couple of weeks ago.

  • hitting.thefan - 2012-10-26 08:42

    It seems that under the Zuma administration every thing is over inflated but huge amounts and that the tax payer are seen as a resource that can be abused. For the poor masses we are seen as a social fund and the government in each and every project uses us a supply fund. I asked myself R240 million for Nkandla? that price even if it was legal over inflated probably by 10 times. Housing for parliamentarians in Cape Town 20 plus million per house over inflated. They got it down to a fine art being thieves in the daytime!

  • john.dough.5836711 - 2012-10-26 08:42

    The cANCer are really missing the boat on this one, do they not realise that we are not going to accept this? I hope this is the straw that breaks the camels back so that we can get some form of sanity back in governing SA. I refuse to register and will not pay 1c towards this scam.

  • kasper.mbayi2 - 2012-10-26 08:50

    To hell with e-tolling , I knew Pravin Gordam will again repeat this e-tolling which he can't even pay 1c from his pocket. He don't feel the pain of poor SA's people. It's hard to be South African. In 10 yaars to we will eat grass with cows in this country. Because its lead by hyenas who always hungry for money.

  • tshepo.maganedisa - 2012-10-26 08:50

    let us all go and submit our comments or dissatisfication on the government gazette not this forums - i am not going to pay a single cent but i am not going to keep quiet either - i am going to submit my comments - lets cut the water supply to showerhead

      sean.odonnell.1466126 - 2012-10-26 10:17

      Martha, what are the chances of hearing...."...please wait for the tone to leave a message"....?

      martha.stclair - 2012-10-26 10:23

      Agree Sean, but it could be great fun to leave lots of vocal messages :-)

  • brendon.hausberger - 2012-10-26 08:50

    So where and how do we submit our "public comments" lots of reporting that we can but can someone tell us how?

  • victor.windsor - 2012-10-26 08:52

    AND HOW MUCH FOR TAXI DRIVERS ?????????

  • marli.eisern - 2012-10-26 09:00

    30 ct / km? You must be happy that you are being treated gracefully. The plan was R5/km.... Zumaville, ANC-ville, Malema-ville, Polokwane-ville, Marikana-ville, the villes just go on and on....and endless road towards growth, proserity and full unemployment. There is still room for growth (of our bankaccounts...) Halala Afrika!

  • lorain.maseko - 2012-10-26 09:01

    I think we should all put our differences aside and protest heavily against the government for this, they did it in Nigeria when the government wanted to scrap petrol subsidies and the people won, we cant just buckle under the pressure of their demands, I truly cannot afford e-tolling and not a lot of people can,we can just shrug our shoulders and say Öh well there goes the government again"

  • barend.wasserman - 2012-10-26 09:02

    My question still is: What about the people driving in foreign cars. Botswana, Lesotho, Swaziland, Namibia. HOW will ALL of them be charged? I might as well buy one from any of these countries, have it registered there and come and drive around Gauteng like a maniac and pay NOTHING!

  • pieter.kunz - 2012-10-26 09:08

    Government only sees us as cash cows. They dont give a damn about south africans as long as they enrich themselves and secure income for the rest of their political life. This etoll shows that they dont care what we say or listen and its arrogant, reminds me of JZ....

  • les.cunningham1 - 2012-10-26 09:12

    We Gauties can not allow e-tolling to start, because if it does, a precedence will have been set and the Gov. will have us by the goolies and the rates will go up faster than you can think. NO E-TAG FOR ME!!

  • kobus.erasmus - 2012-10-26 09:14

    Showerhead needs more money for his private 'compound'

  • craig.ronnenbergh - 2012-10-26 09:14

    If I pay for this crap. I will pay the discounted price. They must not come with stories that you have to have registered to get discount. They can jump. BUT AS IT STANDS I WILL NOT PAY A CENT.

  • apepler1 - 2012-10-26 09:16

    They only talking discounts to reel you in.....once registered you screwed price hikes.soon after.......Get lost!!!!!!!!!

  • stephen.j.dickson.3 - 2012-10-26 09:16

    This whole e-Toll saga as well as the iNkandlagate,Arms Deal,Scorpions disbandment and tenderpreneur issues must all be made election issues because the commomn factor to all is : you guessed it right : the cANCer.......bottom line.

  • coenraad.vaneeden.5 - 2012-10-26 09:18

    Not a word from cosatu the back hand must be very BIG

  • ntshembolloyd.shibambu - 2012-10-26 09:19

    pls pple lets show this anc morons how stupit they are on this issue,we must stop talking now and do some actions,lets go to another level like to plan some meetings n we meet.

  • richard.g.schulz - 2012-10-26 09:23

    Government is in for a tough time if they want this to work. 1. Corruption. How long before you hear about missing monies. 2. Increases. Nothing stops them from increasing the rates within any time period after you get the tag. 3. Other costs. How will this affect other prices? All in all this has the potential to cripple the end-user. The only reason imo why government is pushing this so hard is because 1, Parliament is in Cape Town, which politician uses gauteng highways and 2, who pays the members of parliaments salary? Tax-payers of course so we will be fitting that bill as well. I hope Cosatu brings their full might to the game, they love playing the 'defending the poor' card so I hope all gauteng residents will fall into that category for the sake of this fight.

  • rynhardt.otto - 2012-10-26 09:23

    I WON'T PAY....GET IT SANRAL!!!!!!!!!

  • juan.botes.75 - 2012-10-26 09:27

    I say NO for the e-toll.I wont pay 3 times the tax on roads that the coverment doesnt maintain.The coverment must be held responsible for this e-toll let zuma pay out of his sallery or sell one his stupid zumaville homes.

  • martha.stclair - 2012-10-26 09:30

    From the government website: This is the person to ask about e-toll, lets all give her a call! Enquiries: Phumla Williams Cell: 083 501 0139

  • raath - 2012-10-26 09:30

    "User Pays" my ass - this user has already payed.

  • peter.t.viljoen - 2012-10-26 09:33

    I'm still baffled as to why the government requires tolling to pay for the upgrades when they donated the same value to the IMF?

  • Tawizee - 2012-10-26 09:41

    I will only pay if its R0,00 per km!

  • philip.vde - 2012-10-26 09:43

    How about R5 a day ?

      melenko.phillips - 2012-10-26 09:59

      How about nothing a day!!!use that money that they spend on eating and drinking at gatherings!!!

  • ryan.blom.3 - 2012-10-26 09:44

    The insurance guys are lining themselves up with glee for this one ! It is simple ...you don't pay the tolls ...you won't get your car licence renewed ..the insurance company's won't insure yor car if its not licensed.. GAME OVER !!

      SarelJBotha - 2012-10-26 10:19

      Goodie, why should cars be licensed anyway? Why have a license for something that is in anyway not unlawful to have or use.? Two flies down with one klap comes to mind.

  • Clive.D.Buckley - 2012-10-26 09:47

    They can make the toll fee 1c/km, I still am not paying!!!

  • marc.a.webb.14 - 2012-10-26 09:55

    Denis you are clearly wealthy and money is no object...Please understand we are sick and tired of being raped by Goverment I work hard for what I have and will no longer tolerate the pillage happening in this country...Remember the clock is ticking only a matter of time before implosion!!!

  • alaina.robbertse - 2012-10-26 09:55

    The E-toll gates should be brought down in a mysterious way.I won't pay for this (skelm)thing as e-toll.

  • peter.jefferies.90 - 2012-10-26 09:56

    What a joke, I don't understand why they need to make it so high. Oh wait they have pockets to fill!! It is not like the road is going anywhere so why not a fee of 0.05c per km why do we as motorists need to pay this thing off in the shortest possible time for this criminals in charge of this country to steal more from us at a faster rate??? They can steal it over 20 years !

  • cj.venter - 2012-10-26 10:02

    taxis use our roads more than we do, so if they're exempted, i'm gonna declare my car a taxi (the taxi i take to work) and therefore exempt myself as well, heh.

  • dale.tweedieswart - 2012-10-26 10:21

    This is Africa for you..the roads pre 1994 were some of the best in the world & not tolled but paid for out of taxpayers money.Now they want to toll whatever they get their hands on..Greedy politicians!!!

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