Davies: B-BBEE does not impoverish whites

Davies: B-BBEE does not impoverish whites

2013-10-17 13:17

Cape Town - No white South African has been impoverished by the introduction of broad-based black economic empowerment (B-BBEE) policies, Trade and Industry Minister Rob Davies said on Thursday.

In a written reply to a parliamentary question he said the policy was aimed at business.

"B-BBEE policy is not meant to impoverish white people, as it is a business imperative for companies to comply with B-BBEE in order to transform the economy."

For this reason, both black and white companies were required to contribute to the transformation of the economy through B-BBEE.

"Furthermore, there is no white person who is impoverished because of the introduction and effects of B-BBEE," Davies said.

The question was posed by Freedom Front MP Anton Alberts.

Alberts wanted to know if the minister had any research at his disposal to indicate whether any unintended effects had ensued or were still ensuing from the policy and whether he intended to order such research.

"There has never been any research to reflect the unintended consequences of the B-BBEE policy with regards to the impoverishment of white people," Davies said.

"In this regard the department will welcome such a study from the honourable member."

  • Neill Le Roux - 2013-10-17 13:26

    Would you like some names of white people impoverished people because of B-BBEE?

      Omge Klits - 2013-10-17 13:35

      Or what about the Minister reveals his research to us - or is he blustering like his friend Marius Fransman ?

      Heinrich Etsebeth - 2013-10-17 13:41

      My one friend basically just lost the roof over his house because his one man company lost it's contracts due to BBBBBBEEEEEE.... Bunch of bloody clowns running this country.

      Richard Scully - 2013-10-17 13:43

      The minister only looked at the whites who are in cahoots with useless black ANC ministers

  • Sean Mccleland - 2013-10-17 13:26

    Rob Davies you Idiot, Clearly you do not read the several articles written yearly of "White employees" or candidates being replaced for BBBEE Quota. Another proven pleb in a government post that does not know what he is doing, except for milking every hard working person black or white or any colour in between of their hard earned rands...

  • Ryan Alexander Smith - 2013-10-17 13:29

    hahahahahahaha .. what Davies means is he hasnt been impoverished by selling his soul.

  • Bjorn Hellqvist - 2013-10-17 13:30

    Easy for him to say, I hope they retrench him for a black person

      Beatrix Rode - 2013-10-17 13:56

      They won't he is their spokeperson - the white face telling us whites what they want us to hear!!

  • Robert Christopher Porter - 2013-10-17 13:30

    What a load of rubbish.

  • John Stoltz - 2013-10-17 13:31

    This smacks like a comment from an ANC elitist fatcat !! Try competing with a white skin regardless of your qualifications or experience !! Reverse apartheid, even to the people who was born after 1994 !!

  • Penny Kemert - 2013-10-17 13:31

    I know of plenty whites that have become unemployed because of BBBEEE. People who have had to actually train their black replacements so stop talking crap.

  • Ernest Dicker - 2013-10-17 13:32

    What tripe! Obviously he looks no further than Zuma's office.

  • Mbonisi Gushman - 2013-10-17 13:32

    Clearly if you are on the ANC side of the fence you are not impoverished, as Rob smugly says. In reality, however, the youth are being excluded.

  • Michael Ross - 2013-10-17 13:34

    If "There has never been any research to reflect the unintended consequences of the B-BBEE policy with regards to the impoverishment of white people," Davies said. then how can he claim that no white people were impoverished as a result of B-BBEE? BEE / BBEEE / B-BBEE / AA / etc. (how many abbreviations do they need?) automatically stand to impoverish whites, because they reserve positions of employment for non-white candidates. If a specific threshold of employment opportunities are "removed" from white applicants, then by logical deduction, their options are reduced and either may result in failure to find an adequate position to cover costs, or to find a position at all, both leading to eventual impoverishment. The point is that the policy is flawed, because it does not award employment on capability, but on ethnicity (skin pigmentation), which is racism in its most basic form. You cannot right the wrongs of the past by wronging others in the present. The beneficiaries of Apartheid have most left the country by 1994, and the majority of whites remaining did not condone Apartheid (otherwise it would not have been put to a PUBLIC VOTE to be ABOLISHED), and that is not even speaking of any whites born AFTER 1994. 1994 - 2013 = 19 years. So how can you say you will take away the job from a 19 year old, who was not alive during Apartheid, to give the job to someone else of the same age with the same qualifications, based on skin color? THAT. IS. ("NEW") APARTHEID.

      Ryan Alexander Smith - 2013-10-17 13:40

      totally bizarre that ANC now claiming that BEE has no negative effect on whites. next they will be claiming that BEE is actually beneficial to whites

      Ryan Alexander Smith - 2013-10-17 13:42

      its pretty simple. BEE makes it much harder for whites to find employment now. if you don't have a job you become impoverished. pretty simple really. so either its just ANC lying politics or they are even dumber than I thought

  • Bruno Rech - 2013-10-17 13:35

    what an load of sh...i...t

  • Martin Peter - 2013-10-17 13:38

    It sure has cut down on the number of jobs available for "those poor blecks" as our French friends say. Continue blocking small business and you will soon have a real set of figures to work from. Over the last 5 years,just my two companies have shed 90% of their commercially unemployable staff as a result of BEE and other racist policies.

  • John Roberson - 2013-10-17 13:41

    well Rob Davies frankly and in a nutshell you were not unemployed and JOBHUNTING for 2 years only to be told time and time again sorry BBBEE only, I have now been employed for 6 months and will be paying my backlog of debt for the next 2 years including interest

  • Richard Scully - 2013-10-17 13:41

    Oh no????

  • Andrew M - 2013-10-17 13:43

    How would Rob Davies know no white South African has bee impoverished due to BEE as he rides the gravy train and enjoys all the perks along with it. How many whites today are without employment due to this policy? I do not have the facts but know of many whites after being retrenched are unable to find employment due to skin colour. Many large corporates rather employ blacks to be able to meet the quota requirements. So Rob Davies are fairy stories are just that and you can dream on in your gravy train.

      Colleen Erasmus - 2013-10-17 14:00

      I'm one of them! Been trying for 2 years now to find work, to no avail. I have no savings, pension, income coming in and am a single mom! So please don't say there are no impoverished white people! It is a blatant lie and for those that think all white people are rich, you are living in a dream. I have had to move in with family, just to survive otherwise I would be on the street, nowhere to go!

  • Gerrie M Visagie - 2013-10-17 13:43

    I my next life I would like to be an black albino pregnant gay women with one leg. Imagine the BEE score!!

  • MarkSchrade1980 - 2013-10-17 13:45

    It is a racist policy in my opinion, not different than apartheid in that the color of your skin is still a determining factor as to whether you get benefitted or not.

  • Khathu Murovhi - 2013-10-17 13:47

    yes,white people are rich they dont need hands out but i see increasing number of white hobo's on the robots this days,i wonder. . . .

  • Brett Dovey - 2013-10-17 13:47

    Get a life please they haven't been impoverished because they left the country as there were no opportunities for them. So in-retrospect you have split up families. Move away from all of this classifications and CREATE equal opportunities for all irrespective of their race, colour or creed.

  • Chris Faurie - 2013-10-17 13:48

    The percentage of blacks being negatively affected is higher, especially the poor. I aggree, BBEE does not work. So why continue with this farce?

  • Pieter Van Zyl - 2013-10-17 13:49

    Where does this guy live? USA? he clearly has no idea what is going on in SA. It saddens me to see SA in this state. Everywhere around me people are struggling. This government has failed us. SA has gone to the dogs. BBBBBBBBBEE is APARTHEID, how retarded must you be not to see that??

  • Leonard Rom - 2013-10-17 13:56

    how stupid can you be to write such rubbish!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  • potevan - 2013-10-17 13:57

    So "Minister" Davies, why can my adult children not get any work? Thye are all being shunned from every opportunity albeit that they have the best qualifications, and every time B-BBEE/AA/BEE is used as the excuse. You are an ignorant dumb brown-noser!!!

  • JudithNkwe - 2013-10-17 13:58

    The usual reply - DTI can't be bothered to do proper research so the minister thumbsucks

  • Jan Cronje - 2013-10-17 14:01

    how many years of B-BBEE is it going to take?

  • Bernadette De Nysschen - 2013-10-17 14:02

    He has a job, lucky for him. So many people have been turned down for jobs because they are BEE or B-BEE. When does it become about the qualifications? A large number of people have had equal opportunity to learn and study further. If apartheid was wrong, what make B-BEE any better? Colour doesn't entitle you to a job, qualification should.

  • Mike Swart - 2013-10-17 14:03

    It impoverishes the COUNTRY as a whole. hey should stop the excuses and let people get on with their lives.

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