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DA lashes out at ANC over capitalism

2012-11-25 12:37

Johannesburg - The dominant faction of the ANC believes in state capitalism, Democratic Alliance MP Tim Harris said on Sunday.

"...The state acts as the dominant player, and uses markets for their own political gain," he told delegates on the second day of the party's federal congress in Boksburg.

"This is the version of Malusi Gigaba and Ebrahim Patel's New Growth Path and the motivation behind the idea of a state mining company, a state bank and a state housing company."

He said the DA's vision was for an open society.

"The DA would give more money and more power to the competition authorities than this government does," said Harris.

The opposition wanted to break up the most monopolistic companies in the country.

"Yes we would break up parastatals like SAA, parts of Eskom, the SABC and Denel and distribute the shares to ordinary South Africans through the 2.5 million stokvels across the country."

He said the DA had three main critics, Finance Minister Pravin Gordhan, Pallo Jordan, and Blade Nzimande.

"To Mr Gordhan I say: 'we have never promoted unfettered markets....' To Mr Jordan I say: 'Shame on you for questioning the role Helen Suzman played as the lone opposition voice in the apartheid parliament.'"

He said Nzimande had also squealed about how the DA was a party for whites.

"He's like the frog in the pot of water oblivious to the rising temperature. To Mr Nzimande, I say: 'Watch your back'."

He continued: "You can pretend the DA is the way you imagine it to be, or you can open your eyes and see our party fill Walter Sisulu Square in Kliptown to the rafters.

"Or you can come and join us here today and meet thousands of South Africans... who are gatvol of the ANC and who will flood this province in a blue wave in 2014."

Harris said the Congress of SA Trade Unions masqueraded as a social movement whose real goal was to maximise the salaries of their workers.

"To protect this group they have leveraged their political influence to block the youth wage subsidy that would create an estimated 178,000 jobs," said Harris.

He took another swipe at the ruling party, saying the ANC's talk on economic freedom had another meaning.

"On the far right, the racial nationalists in the ANC - and the nationalists no longer in the ANC Youth League - talk about 'economic freedom in our lifetime' but really they mean the freedom to access tenders and buy expensive watches," said Harris.

"The ideas of the far left and the far right have taken our economy backwards."

He said he was sick of South Africa appearing on the front page of international newspapers for the wrong reasons.


Comments
  • georgebrightons - 2012-11-25 12:55

    Good move for the poor.

      tim.gordon.5011516 - 2012-11-25 13:26

      Interesting - even the DA is resorting to populist rhetoric to grab votes.

      georgebrightons - 2012-11-25 13:26

      What is wrong when blacks benefit and becomes rich in South Africa?

      Sam - 2012-11-25 14:01

      George - I thought your first comment was mediocre... your second comment shows you are not very bright. Change your name

      sithembisob - 2012-11-25 14:11

      @georgebrightons - Nothing is wrong with that... But not in our expense..

      themba.thwala.775 - 2012-11-25 18:13

      georgebrightons, as long as riches are not accumulated through bribery, corruption and grand theft as the anc has been doing, there's absolutely nothing wrong with it

      smith.celeste - 2012-11-26 09:02

      Not the black man George, the government stealing from its own nation. They are allowing only a select few black men to get rich by keeping the majority uneducated and unemployed. Could you really miss the point so badly or were you just itching for a racist comment?

      wwrer.ww - 2012-11-27 14:56

      georgebrightons black people can become 10x richer under any other political party. The ANC is a poor socialist ( google it and discover what it means ) political party. You're fools for running with this lot that do not have enough education and not an export orientated, business, capitalist approach to the economy.

  • michael.kleber.376 - 2012-11-25 12:57

    I would love to say give Zuma a 2nd term as he is chasing away the ANC supporters in there droves but i dont think our country and our economy can take another 5 years of him skimming our taxes

      surfing.sam.9 - 2012-11-25 13:11

      Micheal, that is my thought exactly, check what happened to zim within 2 years. But if not zuma who else, the who else will also drive the country to the ground within 2 years, especially if he supports malema.

      patrick.buckley.712 - 2012-11-25 13:44

      Dont be so hard on the "take tokoloshe"

  • zmvulane - 2012-11-25 13:00

    The Western Cape is the typical version of the *DA open society with equal opportunities*!

      michael.kleber.376 - 2012-11-25 13:04

      As a matter of interest have you been to Cape Town lately i live in the pigsty Jhb and was in Cape Town in sept its a different world clean and everything works and the people who live there praise the DA and not only the white people are saying this

      zmvulane - 2012-11-25 13:11

      @Michael Kleber, unlike you I'm not a visitor! I live here and that's the reasons we have different versions of the typical DA society.

      surfing.sam.9 - 2012-11-25 13:13

      exactly zmvulane, the best run city in Africa, best tourism destination in the world and equality for all the people.

      michael.kleber.376 - 2012-11-25 13:21

      then come to Jhb and experience incompetence , thats the problem you dont have a frame of reference you are usedcto everything working , trust me i live in an ANC paradise where nothing works and incompetence is the norm , come live in Jhb you will long for the well run cape

      zmvulane - 2012-11-25 13:27

      I shudder what the majority of our people will be if the Western Cape reresents the typical DA version of an open society with equal opportunities! Next time you come to Cape Town give yourself some time and take a drive to Gugulethu, Khayelitsha and amazingly the Western Cape and Strandfontein. While at it speak to the staff working for the DA in the City of Cape Town and Provincial Legislature and many other government departments!

      zmvulane - 2012-11-25 13:33

      @Me-again, the DA's preoccupation with creating a gateway pass for tourists from the airport to the CBD and places like the Waterfront and Camps Bay is my greatest worry because it has obviously given people like yourself the wrong picture of this *open and equal society* of the DA.

      oistar.tutu.9 - 2012-11-25 13:59

      @zmvulane. This 'gateway' is what brings in the money, you tjop. Do you think the tourists are coming here because of the people? Don't be silly man, you have all the opportunitys available to start doing it for yourself and to become successful. Instead you sit back spewing hatred, pessimism, racism and any other counterproductive argument. Wht not join the team that is opening up this gateway, that you are so quick to dismiss. No man, you are weak link here, don't blame the DA.

      Sam - 2012-11-25 14:06

      @zmvulane...and your point is...? Your comments are very inane

      zmvulane - 2012-11-25 14:13

      @oistar.tutu.9, your thinking and notion that the tourists don't care about the people is the very typical DA thinking that makes me shudder to my wits. Just imagine what will become of a South African society where people in your frame of mind are given the important responsibility to govern this country.

      derryn.lott - 2012-11-25 15:43

      @zmvulane How can we get some sense into your head. So would you rather have the incompetence of the ANC governing this country? This is not a racial isuue. We want what's best for this country. We need to progress, not regress, and its the DA's vision that will allow for this progress, end of story

      oistar.tutu.9 - 2012-11-25 16:12

      @zmvulane: Bring in the tourists, who bring in the money to uplift the people. 1+1+2. Simple, why do you want to take the long way around. You are so full blinded by racism that you can't see the light

  • hcduplessis - 2012-11-25 13:01

    We will flood all the provinces with blue!!.Thanks for finally standing up for the DA MR Tim.

      musawakhe.ngubane - 2012-11-25 13:28

      In your dreams! White mentality indeed!

      colin.dovey - 2012-11-25 17:18

      @musawakhe.ngubane - I go with the "Black Majority" - Why - because 80% of the people attending the DA Conference this weekend were black - and THAT was not the issue - BLUE was, and will now be the colour for the SUCCESS of our country on the road forward. So...want to succeed? Get a BLUE Mentality - the colour for TRUE Democrats, and success!

  • Shaun Rademeyer - 2012-11-25 13:06

    I support any party that has the best interest for South Africa and the South African people no matter your race, color or background.

      terrylee.heuer - 2012-11-25 13:25

      I share your sentiments Shaun!!

      Sam - 2012-11-25 14:08

      Therefore DA

      narike.lintvelt.9 - 2012-11-25 14:50

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  • adriaan.kroon.1 - 2012-11-25 13:09

    I hope all the best for the only non racial party in RSA!!! Viva DA

  • johan.vanhoff - 2012-11-25 13:10

    MORE AND MORE PEOPLE(BLACK) ARE BECOMING AWARE OF THE FACT THAT THE ANC ARE THE LEACHES AND DON'T CARE ABOUT THE REST OF SA., IRRESPECTIVE OF RACE OR COLOUR. SEEMS LIKE THEY ARE AT THE END OF THEIR TETHER AND THEIR WEAK LEADERS ARENT HELPING THEIR CAUSE.GO DA------GO.

  • chris.jikijela.1 - 2012-11-25 13:11

    We will flood Qumbu blue as well

  • musawakhe.ngubane - 2012-11-25 13:37

    These disgruntled, white reactionaries think we gonna one day wake up with a minority government in charge. Hell no, we will never hand our hard-earned freedom back to the oppressors. Your fake dream is based on your obsession that voters are people on this racist site. Shame, you will be mourning all these years. People are free to go to Europe where the grass is greener for those who originated there. Leave our Africa to us!

      oistar.tutu.9 - 2012-11-25 14:01

      It won't be a minority government, imbecile. If it has been democratically elected it must mean that it is the majority. And the onlky way that will be if it is multi-racial. There are none so blind as thaose that refuse to see

      graham.allin - 2012-11-25 14:05

      The only thing you achieved in this statement is being prejudicial. Just because zille is the leader of the party doesn't mean its an oppressing party just because she is white. Stop living in the past and think about the future. If the DA is voted in, it would be voted in by a majority, and as (I'm sure this is the only thing you are worried about) whites only constitute 10 percent of the population, you would not be led my a minority government would you?

      graham.allin - 2012-11-25 14:05

      The only thing you achieved in this statement is being prejudicial. Just because zille is the leader of the party doesn't mean its an oppressing party just because she is white. Stop living in the past and think about the future. If the DA is voted in, it would be voted in by a majority, and as (I'm sure this is the only thing you are worried about) whites only constitute 10 percent of the population, you would not be led my a minority government would you?

      john.morreira.9 - 2012-11-25 14:26

      musawakhe,To argue with a person who has renounced the use of reason, is like administering medicine to the dead.

      mawandewonderman.mkuba - 2012-11-25 14:31

      Tutu you are embarrassing nxaaaa

      CeeCee.Thwala - 2012-11-25 15:11

      Well said Musawakhe, we are voting no white woman into power. They are not to be trusted at all! We will fix our Africa ourselves, they can reside on our achilles heel, just to wake us up, but rule us? Govern us? Over my dead body, not while I still live that is. Long live ANC!!

      flysouth - 2012-11-25 15:14

      @musawakhe.ngubane The sheer stupidity displayed by your statement is why I advocate that some test of intelligence should be administered before people are allowed to post comments here!

      michael.kleber.376 - 2012-11-25 16:13

      But it is the black people who are the most unhappiest about service delivery remember those protestors out there dont have access to the net and do not vent on this forum they are venting through protest against this corrupt govt

  • strikeback.strikeback - 2012-11-25 13:43

    Focus on fixing the economy and the rest will fall in place. Business in South Africa should not be seen as something to harvest from. Allow business owners and CEO's to make profits for their investments and investors and more money will be brought into the country. COSATU is worst than any politician. A politician lives of the money made by honest people, by taxing the creators of wealth to the brink of extinction. COSATU in turn latched on to the politicians. Talk about a "Tick" that survives on bad blood! www.strikeback.co.za

  • isaac.hlalele.3 - 2012-11-25 13:43

    Shame on you propagandist white pretender you used blacks like trashbins.

      oistar.tutu.9 - 2012-11-25 14:03

      @ Isaac.hlalele.3 = isaac. hlehehehehehehe x3

  • isaac.hlalele.3 - 2012-11-25 13:45

    Capitalism was system used by your old party, National Party it failed them.

      graham.allin - 2012-11-25 13:57

      Yes bro, caitalism was used by the national party and it did fail them, just as it is failing us now. Stop living in the past, wake up and see what's happening around you, do you really think we're heading in the right direction?

      douglas.reid.921 - 2012-11-25 14:26

      The Nats were really more socialist than we are today, they had control boards for everything. They also had state enterprises for many things.

      denny.cray - 2012-11-26 12:14

      In its broadest sense capitalism just refers to private ownership of the means of production. Of course, it doesn't end there. The nats were nationalist/socialist. They loved regulating whatever they weren't directly controlling via state owned monopolies/parastatals. Sure, in a sense there was some capitalism but it certainly wasn't the free market capitalism that people tend to infer. The ANC are increasingly mimicking Nat policies too.

  • isaac.hlalele.3 - 2012-11-25 13:47

    There's no way you can lecture blacks how to wage their political courses.

      oistar.tutu.9 - 2012-11-25 14:04

      Of course not, and especially if it is from a white person. It is called cutting off your nose to spite your face.

  • altus.kirsten - 2012-11-25 13:59

    Cape Town is the best place in the World, run by the best party in the World and lead by the best leader in the World, that takes care of people from all cultures. ANC is vice versa. If I was an ANC supporter I would be very concerned, because your days are numbered....you don't realise it yet!

      Goboza Mashaba - 2012-11-25 15:56

      best leader who calls blacks refugees! what a good leader indeed in your crooked white definition!

      colin.dovey - 2012-11-25 17:37

      @Mashaba - interesting that they FLED, of their volition, for REFUGE, and SAFETY, from an OPPRESSIVE ANC System.....so, INDEED they ARE Refugees: If you have a dictionary - please check it to discover what Helen Zille was saying, and out of compassion for these people who are fleeing from ANC Poverty, NO Jobs, and NO Education..... Refugee: "An exile who flees for safety" Exile: "A person separated from his or her country or home voluntarily or by force of circumstances"

      denny.cray - 2012-11-26 12:15

      I'm not convinced the DA is the best party in the world but it is certainly leagues ahead of the ANC.

  • Sam - 2012-11-25 13:59

    ANC supporters are traitors to their country

  • khethu.ndlovu.3 - 2012-11-25 14:00

    Based on white comments here in news24, blacks must never vote for DA, even if ANC kills us, but DA is not an option, whites simply hate anything thing black, there'll be a massacre in new york but they will find a way to blame the anc. Let them fend for themselves and let us be with our problems, there aint no country in the world that doesnt have its own problems, if they dont like it here i am sure they know where to f.. Off.

      oistar.tutu.9 - 2012-11-25 14:17

      what a baseless thumb-sucked comment to make ...

      sithembisob - 2012-11-25 14:24

      deliberately poor Education; High Level of Corruption; Politicians above the law; Contradicting Decision and so forth and staff like that..NO!! brother, I am black and proud but I need better SA for ALL, not for ANC only or Black only or White Only... believe Come next election (Viva DA)

      Shane Kelly - 2012-11-25 14:27

      based on your comment i for one wouldn't want your support we will win one with out you

      mawandewonderman.mkuba - 2012-11-25 14:28

      Couldn't have said it better myself

      Cameron - 2012-11-25 14:36

      And every single black person on News 24 is a saint? Pls, get over yourself

      Happyness - 2012-11-25 14:40

      You always spew out the most racist rubbish... you are one of the worst racists out there, worse than the very people you critisize. You are so blinded by your racism that you cannot even admit when a white person says something that makes the world of sense. I actually feel sorry for you, living with such feelings.

      CeeCee.Thwala - 2012-11-25 15:13

      Well said brother. Imagine how more arrogant these white people would be if they were in government if they are already projecting it through their feeble comments here. They are not to be trusted. Klaar!

      stefan.vanderspuy - 2012-11-26 14:45

      @khethu: That is the problem of the black man; you feel inferior and see everything in black/white; whereas the DA is non-racial, any race is welcome, and they are trying to build a better SA.

  • Mbuso Siera - 2012-11-25 14:10

    The ANC government has worked so hard to bring equal opportunities nd participation for blacks in the economy of this country.......DA ( whites ) want to be in power so they can continue controlling nd dominating the economy of SA benefiting them....they fear that the change the ANC has brought will allow more black ppl opportunities to take lead in all business sectors years to come black will dominating......as we all know the retail,mining,banking nd propery sectors r still dominated by whites.....they own most cities nd towns nd holding the infrastructure developments to themselves....Vote the ANC until the south african economy is really controlled nd dominated by blacks......a black man must rule its our time....

      Happyness - 2012-11-25 14:45

      If you thinks it's as simple as black and white, you are seriously deluded. No one is saying DA wants to rule because they are white and want Apartheid back- pleeease wake up and get over yourself. I would be more than happy with a black ruling party so long as they were not more corrupt than mobsters. DA wants a ruling party that is FAIR, not CORRUPTED and one that actually gives a damn about the citizens. The ANC may have created opportunities but is also ruining many other things. But hey, if you WANT to end up like Zimbabwe, please vote ANC. But don't come with crappy racist tactics to try persuede others from opening their eyes and voting for a decent party, black or not.

      J.Stephen.Whiteley - 2012-11-25 15:03

      There is no place for the Government in the economic sphere, and that includes the parastatals. The sphere of the State is defence, national currency, criminal law, human rights, social welfare, roads and clean water.

  • Mbuso Siera - 2012-11-25 14:12

    U can talk as u want DA...but we wont allow u to have this country.......nd u will not have Gauteng in 2014...but u will be losing the western cape...

      Shane Kelly - 2012-11-25 14:25

      you should be a comedian

      Cameron - 2012-11-25 14:28

      HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA someone has made a massive funny!

      flysouth - 2012-11-25 15:23

      Obviously you do not agree with the entire concept of democracy then? You know, voting and all that?

      graham.v.ferreira - 2012-11-25 16:19

      So what will you do to stop the DA, which by the way will properly liberate millions of blacks from the yoke of Zuma AND led economic oppression. The DA will win at the polls, when you say we won't let them govern do you mean the ANC won't give up power even if they are beaten in an election, like Zimbabwe, and don't tell me it's the whites who are controlling Zimbabwe, its Mugabe, who is just another African despot, or is that what Africa eants, kings who keep the peasants in their place with guns?

  • rumbidzai.motsi.3 - 2012-11-25 14:24

    DA is now talking of nationalisation. This is good news!!! Nationalisation is the way to go.

  • Cameron - 2012-11-25 14:24

    Carefull what you say DA....You have white people in your party, therefore anything you say can and will be construed as racism by the uneducated..

      Goboza Mashaba - 2012-11-25 15:21

      i'm sure you have laughed at yourself after writing this! wake up bro! DA(Devils Advocates) is lilly white with some few coconuts to make it BBBEE compliant!

      Cameron - 2012-11-25 15:40

      ok sure, what ever floats your conspiracy hate filled boat..

      colin.dovey - 2012-11-25 17:43

      Wonderful complement @Goboza - calling the DA "Devils Advocate" THANKS! "In common parlance, a devil's advocate is someone who, given a certain argument, takes a position he or she does not necessarily agree with, for the sake of argument. In taking such position, the individual taking on the devil's advocate role seeks to engage others in an argumentative discussion process. The purpose of such process is typically to test the quality of the original argument and identify weaknesses in its structure, and to use such information to either improve or abandon the original, opposing position."

      denny.cray - 2012-11-26 12:18

      Yep, whites in the DA will soon be a minority but the comrades will still try to portray the DA as the party of the evil imperialist apartheid agents who are just manipulating poor misguided black folk who know no better.

  • mawandewonderman.mkuba - 2012-11-25 14:25

    The headline should have been, “A den(DA)of capitalists lashes out at ANC over capitalism.”

      ynompalweni - 2012-11-25 14:50

      These hypocritical capitalist hyenas lecturing us about capitalism, how stupid

      mawandewonderman.mkuba - 2012-11-25 15:02

      Look at them. They need to lose even the status of opposition party. They are never progressive. Pure pro white

      denny.cray - 2012-11-26 12:21

      If by "progressive" you mean "statist" like the ANC then I really hope you are right! If you mean "progressive" as in making progress on the massive issues which face our country then you are sadly mistaken.

  • sithembisob - 2012-11-25 14:27

    I think my brother here focused too much on ANC's Incompetence rather than On what DA offers..

  • ontlhabanetsesteve.baepile - 2012-11-25 14:28

    Malema once said Anc lebarated and DA is the way forward.

  • narike.lintvelt.9 - 2012-11-25 14:49

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      ynompalweni - 2012-11-25 14:51

      Hahahaha you are trying to be famous

  • Sibusiso - 2012-11-25 14:51

    This is the number one reason why I would never ever vote for the DA.This party is against anything that seeks to address the imbalances caused by the racist past.State participation in the economy,if properly handled,is an effective tool to economically empower the previously oppressed in particula and the poor in general.They do it elsewhere in the world(Latin America etc).The DA is pro-rich and pro-business more than the ANC ever was.In a country where poverty and unemployment are rife u do need state intervention in the economy.The problem with this right now is greed and cadre deployment by the ANC.

      mawandewonderman.mkuba - 2012-11-25 15:16

      They want to remain rich while the rest of us majority suffer

      Shaun Boshoff - 2012-11-25 15:49

      Wish the people of this counties eyes would open! we were a self sustained booming nation, but now we are in debt to most of the major nations in the world. Communism will never work, it didn't even work for the country it originated in, the USSR, why would it work here? We need change, and very fast before the ANC rapes all our resources and nothing is left

      themba.thwala.775 - 2012-11-25 18:18

      That's the thing: cadres cannot handle the economy without stealing. Look at all the parastatals and government department and tell me which one is being handled with good governance principles, except for SARS which is good because it has to collect money for the cadres to steal. As loong as we have capitalists such as Cyril Ramaphosa and Matthews Phosa and Tokyo Sexwale among others in the ANC, you can forget your state intervention in the economy

  • mawandewonderman.mkuba - 2012-11-25 15:05

    Mandela once said, “Never again shall it be that this.....” Never DA give up.

      derryn.lott - 2012-11-25 15:23

      Mandela also said, if the ANC do to you what apartheid did to the ANC, then do to the ANC what the ANC did to aprtheid...please wake up and use the brain God gave to you

      derryn.lott - 2012-11-25 15:27

      Mandela also said, if the ANC do to you what apartheid did to the ANC, then do to the ANC what the ANC did to aprtheid...please wake up and use the brain God gave to you

      derryn.lott - 2012-11-25 15:27

      Mandela also said, if the ANC do to you what apartheid did to the ANC, then do to the ANC what the ANC did to aprtheid...please wake up and use the brain God gave to you

  • flysouth - 2012-11-25 15:12

    Implicit in the statement that the ANC favours - and implements vigorously - state capitalism, is that they DO NOT favour or promote private capitalism. Such private capitalism (free enterprise) has been shown over hundreds of years to be the most powerful process for the generation and disbursement of wealth amongst the widest spread of citizens. In fact this statement tells us, if we have not been listening and observing for 2 decades and more, what the true motivations of the ANC are and what ideology these are driven by. The ANC was, is and will always remains an organisation with a Communist agenda, which by definition allows in all cases where it has that control, state capitalism but effectively and wherever possible precludes private capitalism. This country needs the ANC to get out of the way of economic success!

  • Mbuso Siera - 2012-11-25 15:15

    the problem about DA is the pro-rich funders behind it....they have their own interest at heart...they know how to play the game unnoticed...the front leadership of this particular party r just the sweet talkers....at work....these white pro-rich knows there ppl who can put the DA in power is the black community.....these black DA leaders r paid good cash by the DA trough its funders to convince black supporters....

      Cameron - 2012-11-25 16:21

      So the ANC get their financial support from where?? Oh thats right, tenderpreneurs.

      bullardx - 2012-11-26 14:07

      Mbuso. I dont know if you know this but the ANC does not own as much as a spaza shop in this country it runs...its surving off taxpayers money and tenders. D.A has much more to offer: Can I ask you something?: "how do you support and rely on a party to give things it promises ppl that it has no form of ownership over?: .

  • thulanit3 - 2012-11-25 15:29

    Lol, SA politic is becoming interesting.

  • Goboza Mashaba - 2012-11-25 15:29

    I'm sure the DA (Devil's Advocates) leaders and all their croonies are comedians! After reading this, i just laughed. If thats what you listen to at their gatherings..you are really entertained!

      Shaun Boshoff - 2012-11-25 15:56

      The only time you would be against capitalism and for communism is when you are in the top structure of the government they are the only ones who would benefit, communism means everyone will work for the state and their coffers, you wont get a share from the income, but hey if you want to struggle, work hard and have nothing while your hard work goes into the pockets of the ANC then go ahead vote ANC!

      bullardx - 2012-11-26 14:03

      Goboza you wanna talk about D.A being comedians?? lol.clearly you have missed the entertainment that the ANC puppets have exposed to us and the world this year:p...

      Sean Wasserman - 2012-11-27 19:33

      The ANC comedy (Mangaung) is starting soon.

  • Khanyile Busokwakhe - 2012-11-25 15:51

    i wish if i can reverse the watch back to 70`s &80`s to see all black mlungus such as lindiwe mazibuko &others how would be treated by bothas g

      Goboza Mashaba - 2012-11-25 15:59

      I'm sure in their private offices Lindiwe is calling baas and misses!

      Cameron - 2012-11-25 16:23

      @ Khanyile + Goboza. I bet Lindiwe has IQ higher than both of yours put together and doubled....or is that match a bit hard for u?

      themba.thwala.775 - 2012-11-25 18:19

      Stop living in the past you idiot. We have the present and future to worry about under the thieving scum called zuma

  • willie.schoeman.144 - 2012-11-25 15:52

    I cant believe this. All the black people keep accusing the DA of being racist. please show me one thing about the DA that is racist show me one thing that shows that they want to oppres black people. The DA is doing more for black poor people in this country then the ANC is. And I also wonder. If Helen Zille was exactly the same .. but just black .. how would all these people feel about her then ? For me black people in this country are just so full of hate that they cant see straight. They would rather die then to vote DA into power .. even if they knew that the DA might be the only thing left that will save this beautifull country of ours .... and yes .. OURS!!! Back, colored, indian, whites. all of ours Every single race in this country has once faught and died for this country. The sand is red with all our blood. not just black or white. I just wish that some people would realise this and start working to better the country for us all... What even happened to UBUNTU????

  • graham.v.ferreira - 2012-11-25 16:15

    If you visit georgebrightons fb page you'll see that he is one of those pillaging the money from the poor of this country. No wonder he supports Zuma. George, Zuma has a bunker which he has built for the day that the masses of people like him and you have ripped off get so gatvol that they come for him. I sincverely hope for your sake you also have a bunker, for believe me, they will come for you too.

  • oistar.tutu.9 - 2012-11-25 16:16

    Who let the trolls out?

  • richardnealejohn.underwood - 2012-11-25 18:54

    @ graham.v.ferreira : Is it a bunker or a longdrop ? If its the latter, when the stuff hits the fan he s in it both ways whether he goes up or down !

  • machoene.kaizer - 2012-11-25 19:16

    If I rmber well china president came 2 south africa sumwhr 2008 to sign up te deals.tey ask him:wat wil hpn if ANC loses votes 4 te nxt election,he reply in S.A tey a two parties te ANC nd te others.zille nd DA(devil advocates) jst gv up

  • alananthonygreen - 2012-11-26 09:36

    Not to mention that the DA actually performs on it's mandate to serve the public.

  • bullardx - 2012-11-26 13:54

    You know having this country lead by goverment (ANC) that lived in A-days, is the worst fatal for this country because they still live with hatred. We need a new party to lead...>I dont mind D.A< but ANC, no-ways youv proved yourself useless not to this country but the world - IN THIS YEAR ALONE:p shameful and disgraceful all in one...

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