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Buy e-tags, urges Sanral

2012-12-13 12:13

Pretoria - E-tolling of Gauteng freeways got the legal nod on Thursday when the North Gauteng High Court dismissed an application to have the project scrapped. 

"The application is dismissed," Judge Louis Vorster said, reading out his judgment. 

"In my view the application cannot succeed." 

Vorster ruled that the Opposition to Urban Tolling Alliance, as the applicant, should pay the costs of the SA national Roads Agency limited (Sanral), the transport department, National Treasury, the MEC of roads and transport in Gauteng, minister of water and environmental affairs and the director general of the department. 

"The applicants are ordered to pay jointly and severally the costs reserved by the Constitutional Court to the respondents who participated in that appeal before the Constitutional Court." 

He said the costs order included the cost of counsel. 

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After the judgment, Sanral CEO Nazir Alli was seen hugging his colleagues. He said he was pleased with the outcome. 

"We are not here to crook, we are not going to be shedding any kind of crocodile tears or anything of that sort," he told reporters. 

"We are here to implement government policy. I would like all of us to turn around and respect the decision of the courts. 

"It is unfortunate that Outa showed total disregard and disrespect for the decision of the Constitutional Court." 

He appealed to the media to report "correctly and truthfully" on the e-toll matter, saying there had been untruths, lies and half-truths published against Sanral. 

Alli urged people to buy e-tags. 

Outa chairperson Wayne Duvenhage shook his head after Voster made his judgment. 

"I think today's judgment represents a sad day for South Africa's democracy as it demonstrates government's ability to railroad public engagement policy and thereby make decisions that are not in the best interest of society," he said. 

"The outcome also sends a clear message about the lack of importance of citizens' input, and will have an input in society's feeling powerless against the state, and its bulldozer tactics in driving its own agendas and policies." 

He said the decision would have an impact on South Africa's global image. 

Outa was never opposed to society paying for infrastructure upgrades, Duvenhage said. 

Outa believed Sanral would never be ready to launch e-tolling. 

"We sincerely ask Sanral and government to reconsider their decision to toll our urban freeways," Duvenhage said. 

"We now call on Gauteng motorists to not purchase e-tags, as legally they are not obliged to do so." 

Duvenhage said his legal team would study the judgment before deciding the way forward. 

Director-general George Mahlalela said it was unclear when e-tolling would begin, saying the minister would make an announcement. 

"We are pleased with the judgment, we think that it closes a chapter and gives us an opportunity to move forward," he said. 

"The minister will very soon announce, after all the submissions were made, the way forward. We are still working on the details." 

Vorster found that the Gauteng Freeway Improvement Project scheme was done lawfully.

In September, the Constitutional Court overturned an interim order putting the Gauteng e-tolling project on hold. 

The Constitutional Court found the North Gauteng High Court had not considered the separation of powers between the high court and the executive. 

On April 28, the high court granted the interdict to Outa, ruling that a full review needed to be carried out before e-tolling could be put into effect. 

The interdict prevented Sanral from levying or collecting e-tolls pending the outcome of the review.

 

Comments
  • squeegee.pilot - 2012-12-13 12:17

    Hahahaha. Not likely.

      rbphiri - 2012-12-13 13:05

      They have higher chances finding unicorns.

      marcus.vermaak - 2012-12-13 13:18

      RPhiri, they found a unicorn's lair. What now? Oh, and I will not pay, buy, support these c*nts!

      marius.j.rensburg.3 - 2012-12-13 13:22

      Now SCUMRAL/ANC will set their focus on the 8 remaining provinces - they will officially become one on the richest organisations in SA. No wonder why you spent millions to fight this court case!

      rbphiri - 2012-12-13 13:25

      lol zuma's head is shaped like the horn of a unicorn

  • avremel.niselow - 2012-12-13 12:17

    Buy dynamite instead and destroy the gantries!

      rbphiri - 2012-12-13 13:06

      Down with E-tags, Down with ANC!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

      other.justin.1 - 2012-12-13 14:09

      I have always advocated that violence should never be used, but desperate times call for desperate measures.

      mc.segal.5 - 2012-12-13 16:37

      Google this: Flip a plate and speed flip.

  • craig.hopkins.376 - 2012-12-13 12:18

    Is Judge Loius Vorster getting a nice little bonus from the ANC?

      charmaine.rowlands - 2012-12-13 12:28

      EXACTLY what i thought when i heard it on the news!!

      squeegee.pilot - 2012-12-13 12:58

      Guys, there's a a difference between the law and policy. We did not win the legal battle therefor we need to change the policy makers or change the minds of the current policy makers.

      rbphiri - 2012-12-13 13:07

      His licking zuma's behind as we speak

      marc.ross.965 - 2012-12-13 13:25

      He has been tongue polishing the Spear.

      willemtoerien - 2012-12-13 13:49

      I bet the chief of SANRAL is under his desk now...

  • christo.pienaar.54 - 2012-12-13 12:18

    I will most certainly not bow to crookery and corruption!!

  • wikusvdl - 2012-12-13 12:18

    No!

  • Duncan Colter - 2012-12-13 12:20

    Radio 702 urges the public to maintain the moral high ground on this issue with the belief that good would overcome. Today, that did not happen. Soon, the public will take matters into their own hands and take down the toll gantries. I do not condone what will happen next. But I won't condemn it either

      rohin.jadin - 2012-12-13 12:38

      there's no need to resort to violence and destruction of property because if we do we're just as bad as the arses that make this country the screw up it is. pay for what you use, reduce what you use, follow the procedure for the invoices that they need to send to you, if you don't receive the registered mail, don't pay it.

      gwynneth.rowe - 2012-12-13 13:29

      @Rohin - why should I pay 5 times to use the same roads? Income tax, fuel levy, car license and drivers license renewal. Now I must pay again? They have 2 chances!

      other.justin.1 - 2012-12-13 14:13

      @Robin - NEVER! When someone blows up a gantry, I am going to take my bag of marshmallows and braai them with glee on the destroyed piece of scrap.

      rohin.jadin - 2012-12-13 15:07

      but then when the protesters (especially municipal workers) go around destroying stuff when they protest, you can't bitch and moan cause you're condoning the behavior. @gwynnetth - 2 chances??

      antebellum.axiom - 2012-12-14 14:01

      @ Rohin, Get your head out of your @ss. It is not the same thing. When municipal workers destroy things it is just for the sake of destruction. They destroy whatever they come across. They pi$$ of alot of people in the process, because many of the things they destroy is private property and it has a negative impact on the population as whole. Destruction of gantries on the other hand serves a specific purpose and is beneficial to the general population. And no one except the a$$sholes at SANRAL and our corrupt government will be pi$$ed off. As a matter of fact, you might just be declared a national hero. Sounds like a win win situation to me.

  • neiljvv - 2012-12-13 12:21

    Thank you OUTA for your efforts, now we call upon COSATU to try and save us.

      thaluki.malema - 2012-12-13 12:49

      No, not Cosato, they are destructive in their methods. Rather civil disobedience.

      hein.huyser - 2012-12-13 13:27

      Sad news for you guys, Cosatu has just anounced their demand that all big private assets be nationalised, they had us all going thete for a moment.

      gwynneth.rowe - 2012-12-13 13:30

      Its a sad day when I agree with COSATU

      nosiphom.mazibuko - 2012-12-13 13:37

      No we save ourselves, jutst No e-tag and no payment. with an e-tag you have a probelm, without they have a problem.

      konstabel.koekemoer - 2012-12-13 14:28

      Time to join the next protest.

      rudi.stone - 2012-12-13 15:50

      @ thaluki. Destructive? Just what we need! DESTROY COSATU DESTROY! Im behind you on this one...

  • Clive.D.Buckley - 2012-12-13 12:21

    F*&( off SANRAL... will NEVER purchase an e-tag... Time for war... will be marching with COSATU in Feb and dismantling your gantries!!!

  • mario.dippenaar - 2012-12-13 12:21

    ANC Bad DA Good Upvotes to the left

  • mark.oosthuizen - 2012-12-13 12:22

    4Q SANRAL! 4Q ANC!

  • antoinette.jordaan - 2012-12-13 12:22

    Sad day, in deed. Have you heard the ads on radio to "encourage" people to buy e-tags? Pathetic

      brian.exmachina - 2012-12-13 22:45

      Those ads just make me even more pi$$ed off. I won't buy one, and am willing to get arrested for it. They can suck my balls dry.

  • andre.mostert - 2012-12-13 12:22

    MMM no thanks Im already paying for too much corruption dont have anymore to give buddy you are now taking food out of my mouth. Go fish!

  • alex.gush.3 - 2012-12-13 12:22

    Never ever!

  • Tiyani - 2012-12-13 12:23

    A great day for the SCAMRAL

  • rynhardt.otto - 2012-12-13 12:23

    Hahahaha F YOU SANRAL AND GOVERMENT!!!!!

  • paul.stanley.5621 - 2012-12-13 12:24

    I wont register, and I wont pay....SANRAL can go F youselves.

  • morne.nortier.98 - 2012-12-13 12:24

    Citizens of Gauteng, the Western Cape is behind you (and so should the rest of SA be because we are all next) - don't buy this rubbish.

      chantal.bennett.121 - 2012-12-13 14:22

      What many people dont realize is that there are 33 ANC aligned companies waiting to skim off the admin collection cream, that is REALLY what this etag thievery is about. It is time for good men to stand up against evil

  • ramon.lipparoni - 2012-12-13 12:25

    SO NAZI ... since you clearly have no problem paying for access to roads.. oh wait .. thats covered for you hey .. bet you never have to look at the money at the end of the month and wonder , crap where am i going to find another 500.00 for the month. Many are streached to the max , but like you and the rest of the corrupt Goverment have no problem .. cause you dont have to fork out of your own pocket , the tax paying minority will pay for you . Get a grip your FAT Gov animal

  • ethanhawk385 - 2012-12-13 12:26

    This reeks of government interference. ANC where is all the petrol levy moneys collected over the last 18 years ??????

      chantal.bennett.121 - 2012-12-13 14:24

      Very good question Ethan, this is one issue the ANC refused to answer in court. Because the petrol levies have been stolen by the ANC dogs.

  • kalvin.marris - 2012-12-13 12:26

    The sad part is that even though this is such a major issue in the country the "president" remains silent- never heard anything from him. Really lacks the leadership, to me he is the invisible president. What are his thoughts and views on this....... guess we will never know

      konstabel.koekemoer - 2012-12-13 14:36

      Our president is a complete failure and is an example of everything that is dragging South Africa down ... corruption, mismanagement, dishonesty, nepotism, self-interest etc.

  • marcia.dupont - 2012-12-13 12:26

    SAD so sad...... so from when will it be implemented and payable??? Anyone knows???

      Alan - 2012-12-13 12:35

      Who cares? We are not going to pay anyway.

      dave.elmore.5 - 2012-12-13 12:45

      The earliest can only be in February when Parliament re-convenes. The laws still have to be passed on this

      mc.segal.5 - 2012-12-13 19:39

      Google "flip a plate"

  • Jaco JP Venter - 2012-12-13 12:26

    E TAG se Moer wait for the Christmas rush then blok the roads

  • johan.viljoen.58 - 2012-12-13 12:26

    i will not pay

  • morne.nortier.98 - 2012-12-13 12:26

    I always wondered when the citizens of this country will rise against this so-called democracy... I would never have thought in a million years it would be something like toll-roads! Let government try and prosecute millions of road-users who refuse to buy this rubbish... I might actually just become a Cosatu member...

      zs5zk - 2012-12-23 11:45

      Government has not got the Infrastructure to Handle this Disaster. No Courts,No Magistrates, not enough cells and prisons, Not enough people to deliver summonses and if sent by post, refuse to accept/sighs for it. Utter chaos. STUFF Them, we have paid our taxes to build these Roads and another fact is that 70% of tax Income for South Africa is spent as wages to the ANC Cadres and also via Fraud and Corruption, Malema way.

  • theodor.herzl.3 - 2012-12-13 12:26

    Never!

  • johann.fouche.50 - 2012-12-13 12:28

    Please buy your etag. Nkandla must be funded. And Jacob and company need to start saving for their retirement in 5 years time. And somehow accommodation for a "working" holiday in 5 star hotels abroad need to be paid.

  • Thebigguyjim - 2012-12-13 12:28

    It make no difference what these EXPENSIVE legal minds decide. I will never register. I will never buy an e-tag. I will use the roads I have already paid for. Send me a registered Itemized Invoice and proof it was my vehicle on the road.If you can find me. I will make it impossible to collect from me.

      Thebigguyjim - 2012-12-13 12:29

      If on the outside chance you do find me I will pay in 10c pieces.

      gavin.green.7798 - 2012-12-13 15:44

      Thebigguyjim - HAHAHA maybe everybody should bombard the scamrel offices with their 10c pieces

  • rohin.jadin - 2012-12-13 12:29

    get tagged - get screwed. don't do it.

  • rahil.khanna.520 - 2012-12-13 12:29

    GO FCUCK YRSELF !! SCAMRAL

  • marc.moon.10 - 2012-12-13 12:29

    i wont buy a tag, and i don't think i feel like i need to pay either... besides, i have paid for this road. besides, i'm not the only one who feels like this, besides are they going to arrest all of us? besides, they cant even enforce the fines issued how will they enforce this? besides, i just bought the president a R200 000 000 house...

  • charmaine.rowlands - 2012-12-13 12:29

    On principle i will NOT buy one of your freaking e-tags. BITE ME!!

      marc.ross.965 - 2012-12-13 13:27

      OK

  • 286ADC8D - 2012-12-13 12:31

    SANRAL can go and get F...... I wil never buy a ETag. Even if I don't use a highway. That's fine by me. But its not gona happen!

  • nico.eksteen.7 - 2012-12-13 12:31

    LOL, courts are going to have a huge backlog.

      gavin.green.7798 - 2012-12-13 15:47

      A very good point, what do you think they will prioritise, trying to get money from us for non payment of etoll or to try clean up the already massive backlog we have of criminals in jail???

  • shawnbrownphoto - 2012-12-13 12:31

    sanral can go jump..I will not buy an etag and support this corrupt system that the government has tried to implement via bully tactics. Its high time South Africans say no to corruption, and saying no to e-tolls, e-tags is a good a start as any

  • thethird.wors - 2012-12-13 12:32

    Pardon my french but "F*** YOU". Find the 50 billion that government "lost" and pay the road with that.

  • ryan.macquet - 2012-12-13 12:32

    In the words of Eric Cartman - Suck my balls.

  • gski700902 - 2012-12-13 12:32

    I want photos by registered post (so they can prove they sent them) which clearly show my car with my registration passing under their gantries. I won't accept e-mail either. I will NOT buy a tag, I will DEFINITELY not give them access to my bank account. Wherever COSATU is going to protest, I'll be there! If anyone has been listening to radio ads the last few days, SANRAL KNEW that this was going to go their way - they've been trying to convince listeners how much they'll "save" by getting a tag. Save how, when we're being robbed blind at every turn? Forget it, this judgement stinks of "cadre tenderpreneurism".

  • pieter.kunz - 2012-12-13 12:35

    How about no i will not buy!

  • marc.ross.965 - 2012-12-13 12:35

    I have some paintball guns and amo for sale. Please note they are for recreational purposes and NOT for shooting E-Toll cameras

      dewalds3 - 2012-12-13 14:44

      Yes, and a 17.5mm steel bearing ball does NOT fit into a paintball gun.

      marc.ross.965 - 2012-12-13 15:48

      Dewald I just checked to make sure. It actually fits very well you butthead. My apologies to the taxi driver on Voortrekker Road. I will replace that windshield.

  • saintbruce.bruce - 2012-12-13 12:36

    NO TO ETOLLS GP Don't buy a tag Don't use the roads no money in = no business Watch the cloning brigade swing into action now. Cruising the shopping malls and finding cars with tags displayed allows the criminals to have easy access to your eToll account and then the bank has easy access to your funds and try to get them back from that ONE SIDED CONTRACT! What part of the public don't want this system does SANRAL not understand? NO Sanral, NO !

  • joe.smit.549 - 2012-12-13 12:37

    And please all vote for the cANCer, in the next election!

  • marc.moon.10 - 2012-12-13 12:37

    please remember, if we dont pay, they go bust sending out fines and paper work, what are they going to do? arrest everyone... nope... the government has taught us how to get away with breaking the law, lets show them what good students we have been...

      joe.smit.549 - 2012-12-13 12:40

      Indeed. I like...

      other.justin.1 - 2012-12-13 14:20

      Oh yeah!

      konstabel.koekemoer - 2012-12-13 14:39

      Only 25% pay their traffic fines, only 20% of Soweto pays for electricty, many don't pay their rates and taxes ... why the hell would they now go and pay for e-tolling?

  • Shane Prins - 2012-12-13 12:37

    NO

  • nico.vandermerwe.54 - 2012-12-13 12:38

    The People killed the NP. They will kill SANRAL and eventually the current ANC masquerading as the liberation movement they no longer are.

  • nhlapop - 2012-12-13 12:40

    We are not here to crook, we are not going to be shedding any kind of crocodile tears or anything of that sort," he told reporters". Bloody agent. This ruling is in favour of ANC

  • Eterni80 - 2012-12-13 12:42

    second word - off !

  • tim.brink.1238 - 2012-12-13 12:42

    Dont buy etags. Its not compulsory. Sanrail will never be able to administer collection. Use ANC tactics and BOYCOTT.

  • dorovan - 2012-12-13 12:42

    No, spelt N. O.

  • morneoos - 2012-12-13 12:44

    Hi. I'm just wondering? What is the DA's stand on this. We say vote DA but are they against the e-toll or for it?

      marc.ross.965 - 2012-12-13 13:29

      Against. The only thing DA and COSATU agree on.

  • johan.vanderlinde.14 - 2012-12-13 12:44

    Ok. Once a complete audit (by a reputable, independant audit firm)is done against this project, and the findings are made public, I am sure people may react differently. Till then, I doubt any sane person will agree to this. In this audit report we all want to know what was spent where, who approved what etc. Who is accountable?

      johan.vanderlinde.14 - 2012-12-13 12:52

      In fact, why don't we as a country have a referendum on the e-tolls? Let the people decide. Not just the Gauteng, but the entire country.

      mc.segal.5 - 2012-12-13 19:45

      Chances are that you will see a referendum on the death penalty first..