ANC: Job grant won't replace youth wage

2012-06-27 18:02

Johannesburg - A proposed job seekers grant to help unemployed young people find work would not replace the youth wage subsidy, African National Congress head of policy Jeff Radebe said on Wednesday.

"It's not a replacement for the wage subsidy... (but) whether it's succeeding or not will be contested in the next 24 hours," Radebe said at Midrand.

He was briefing reporters on the sidelines of the ANC national policy conference in Midrand.

He said the proposal for the job seekers grant was submitted by the National Youth Development Agency and the ANC Youth League.

It formed part of the ANC's discussion document on social transformation and would be debated during commissions on Wednesday evening.

On Tuesday President Jacob Zuma, who is also the party's leader, said the job seekers grant would help young people while they actively look for employment. The grant would be linked to the compulsory skills development programmes.

The youth wage subsidy programme was announced by Zuma in 2010, but its introduction has been postponed. It is currently under discussion at the National Economic Development and Labour Council.

The subsidy involves a R5bn tax credit to be introduced over three years to promote the employment of young people.

Radebe said most of Wednesday had been spent discussing the ANC's documents on strategy and tactics, which included the second transition, and organisational renewal.

Commissions would start debates on the party's 11 other documents on Wednesday evening. Commissions would start to report back on Thursday morning, said Radebe.

The first report would be on strategy, tactics and organisational renewal.

  • Ntuthuko M Simelane - 2012-06-27 18:25

    what criteria will be used to elect those deserving of this grant? i hope we are not about to fund drugs and alcohol.

      christelle.james.7 - 2012-06-27 18:55

      You are funny:-) What they do say that I like is that the grant will be linked to compulsory skills development. In the same breath, how will this be monitored and controlled. (The skills development in itself will create jobcreation for more tutors and teachers)In the USA this type of grant is used on a regular basis, but the grant goes purely towards skills development. The government groups which handles this, also acts as an employment agency, and companies who make use of it, gets tax credits. It works!!! But that is USA, not SA:-(

      Godfrey - 2012-06-27 18:55

      Good question...will whites also be included or is this another "vote buying" scheme.

      anthonycharles.williams - 2012-06-27 19:01

      is this for only black or can any colour get it

      wesley.nel.5 - 2012-06-27 19:08

      This will create more unemployment, it is mos nicer to sit under a tree an wait for the grant as to work for it. It is wil be the same as the child grant that were suppose to help, but then woman got pregnant for the grant. Stupids

      christelle.james.7 - 2012-06-27 19:18

      Wesley I agree with your issue, but if this grant is used purely for skills development (and the money gets paid to the institution not the individual)it might go a long way in creating a higher level of education - and boy, how our people need that. And race should (please) not be a criterea for selection.

  • ken.grimblegrumble - 2012-06-27 18:26

    Radebe said most of Wednesday had been spent discussing blah the second transition, and organisational renewal. Dear Jeff What the 'F' was the first transition? Even the deputy pres has stated he doesn't understand the term.

      Keith - 2012-06-27 21:52

      First transition, second transition; more gobbledygook. To borrow from Alice, words mean precisely what the ANC wants them to mean.

  • Hugh - 2012-06-27 18:34

    I hear that the entire ANC fraternity is going to take a pay cut to pay for this new grant.

      Ntuthuko M Simelane - 2012-06-27 19:04

      are you having a nightmare? wake up...they gonna secure tenders to distribute it,why feed drug addicts? as is,its difficult to duck robbery.

  • ken.grimblegrumble - 2012-06-27 18:34

    And in further news Jeff stated that the Government will spend the next 5 years deciding if we are dealing with 1. Non old people 2. Not middle aged persons 3. People who have left school 4. Whether the word 'grant' is appropriate. 5. If we should use the word 'young people' 6. And many other things that only the Government understands.

  • ken.grimblegrumble - 2012-06-27 18:36

    Breaking News Jeff has advised that the budget for the grant has been fully utilised by President Zuma's children.

  • zolisa.dlokovu - 2012-06-27 18:41

    Job seekers grant.a good idea esp. for people in rural areas.We pay R40.00 (return)from my village to town.Young people in rural areas are struggling.have to pay for internet,cv's and most of these young people are raised by their grandparents.I salute the NYDA

      Godfrey - 2012-06-27 18:59

      You could have earned a wage by now if the ANC implemented the youth subsidy.

  • sandile.ngiba - 2012-06-27 18:53

    As long as job seekers wont have to pay it back as soon as they get employed as it happens with NSFAS :-(

      ken.grimblegrumble - 2012-06-27 18:58

      I understand. No the young people must be supported and learn skills. That is all South Africans want.

  • thepatrickwinter - 2012-06-27 18:54

    I mean really, is this now the norm for the few surviving geese (tax payers). To see what the industrial farmer (The govt) is doing to exploit the water in our pond. What possible prospects could there be to look forward to in the future. Someone, please tell me what value the ANC has brought to the lives of South Africans in the last decade?

      Ntuthuko M Simelane - 2012-06-27 19:01

      we have witnessed lavish lifestyles by our leaders,have seen weddings at the Inkandla palace,closed down colleges,ran short of teachers,released Shabir from prison,(the man is ill,all he can do is play golf),renovated the first(s) ladies(ssss) houses for 64million,we are currently buying a 350 seater jet for the main man,we have a pres that can win idols,took Mantashe to a dentist,removed(you cant say steal,respect your elders)3billion in ten months. oooh sorry, i just only saw the word 'value' now on your post,sorry dude

  • wendy.schneider3 - 2012-06-27 19:02

    More money down the (anc) toilet.

  • mark.haupt.31 - 2012-06-27 19:19

    You have bankrupted the state, you know it and we know it so why continue the charade Jeff? You're busted and the truth will come out but you can't tell your supporters, can you? You'll have to sometime.......

  • James Holroyd - 2012-06-27 19:24

    why not use the money to create jobs ? All these job seekers are going to get a grant to go and find a job that does not exist . Great! that makes sense

  • ken.grimblegrumble - 2012-06-27 19:28

    @Godfrey Are you mad. The employed Whites are here simply to work for the majority. They are the new ZA slaves. We have no need for educated people in the new ZA. Seriously I think that most of the people who will enjoy the grant will be whites provided race is not a requirement. So the main problem will still remain.

  • Fanie - 2012-06-27 19:59

    So what now, giving it another name to counter the DA? Show some balls and call it what it is, YOUTH WAGE SUBSIDY! Stand up, man up!

  • jmasha3 - 2012-06-27 20:56

    This is a crazy idea is not going to work.There are people who are struggling to get funding for business ideas that will help in creating jobs.This idea is unsustainable and just gonna put more burden on the few tax payers.Whoever came up with this rubbish must be mixing marijuana with onions.

  • Keith - 2012-06-27 22:03

    I would like to offer a VERY stupid suggestion. Place a ban or a high tariff on goods from countries pay their workers less than ours for producing those particular goods. After all they are undermining OUR workers. This would see the end of cheap asian goods and give our people the opportunity to manufacture things here. Result, more employment, more money floating around South Africa. I know that we have international obligations, but we owe it to South Africans to look after ourselves first.

      Keith - 2012-06-27 22:05

      Sorry, you supply the missing words, it's past my bedtime.

  • Andre Van Zyl - 2012-06-28 06:25

    What is the point of all this debating, apart from creating enough smoke and mirrors to get JZ re-elected. Wonderful plans, no action!

  • gregory.martin.5070 - 2012-06-28 07:43

    This is what they are good at - getting something without having to work for it.The Youth Wage Subsidy is not appealing to them because they actually have to work.

  • mdandrease - 2012-06-28 08:01

    This is so ironic coz the president said in his speech that we cannot be a country of social grants foever lol now another grant will be introduced. We have created a nation of hand outs n laziness jeer

  • jarques.cloete - 2012-06-28 10:30

    Grants ultimately do more damage than good. It creates more problems that it solves. It just further the problem of making Africa the continent of palms...

  • lmapheto - 2012-06-28 12:03

    This is what Steven Bantu Biko said in 1977 "Merely by describing yourself as black you have started on a road towards emancipation, you have committed yourself to fight against all forces that seek to use your blackness as a stamp that marks you out as a subservient being." So job grants and wage subsidies is what we good for? As government are you accepting defeat that you are unable to grow the economy and create decent jobs? I dont like i dont like i dont like

  • alf.pop - 2012-07-05 09:42

    A typical ANC stuff up! They are unable to decide on anything. Or maybe the reason for the Youth Wage Subsidy and the "job seekers" grant remain is, that Zuma wants to cover all his bases. We all know he can't handle money, so he may use some of his dozens of children to apply for the Job Seekers Grant and screw some more money out of the tax payer! After all, we are already supporting his harem. If Zuma himself had to support his family all his wives and kids would be slim and trim!

  • quartus.vanzyl - 2012-08-16 18:27

    so if you get a grant as job seeker, why would you be serious to get a job? This is a nobrainer

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