Miners threaten to kill Lonmin management

2012-09-05 18:45

Rustenburg - Marikana miners have threatened to kill Lonmin management unless they stop operations at the platinum mine in North West.

The threat was made by representatives of hundreds of protesting workers who marched to Lonmin's Karee mine, from Marikana on Wednesday.

The five representatives told manager Jan Thirion that management had Wednesday and Thursday to close the mine's K3 shaft or they would end up dead and the mine would be burnt down. The shaft is where most of the mine's operations take place.

On August 16, police fired on a group of protesting workers near the mine, killing 34 and wounding 78.

Peace accord

Another 10 people were killed earlier that week, including two policemen and two security guards.

Thiroun, who arrived at the gate escorted by two heavily armed bodyguards on Wednesday afternoon, told the workers' representatives to go back to the negotiating table and sign the peace accord.

"Violence doesn't solve anything. It is not in everyone's interest."

When the marchers arrived at the mine, police took up position about 500 metres from an entrance gate, and kept a close watch. Two helicopters circled overhead.

Workers have been on strike for the past three weeks, demanding a monthly salary of R12 500.

On Wednesday, the miners started marching the more than 5km from Lonmin's mine in Marikana to the mine in Karee around 10am in an apparent attempt to stop their colleagues from working there.

The marchers carried knobkerries, sticks and iron rods and as they marched, sang: "We died because of [President Jacob] Zuma. [Bantu] Holomisa please come and rescue us."

They also carried placards bearing pictures of their dead colleagues.

Police were unable to prevent the marchers from entering Marikana.

‘Viva R125, viva’

Five Nyala armoured personnel carriers parked at the town's entrance in an attempt to divert the march, but the crowd pushed its way around the vehicles and continued to the Karee mine.

As the miners passed the Karee West informal settlement, next to the mine, residents cheered in support.

Men whistled and women ululated as the group passed by. They also shouted: "Viva R12 500, viva".

On Tuesday, about 200 mineworkers met at the Karee mine's shaft 30, and tried to get their colleagues to stop working. Another march was then planned for Wednesday morning.

Police in armoured vehicles also kept an eye on the Nkaneng informal settlement at Wonderkop, near the Marikana mine.

Talks between worker representatives, unions, the labour department and management were expected to resume on Wednesday in Rustenburg.

  • henk.vanrensburg.31 - 2012-09-05 13:40

    Damn it is time that we call in the Army to stop this uprising. This is how civil wars start if left unchecked!

  • bryan.winn - 2012-09-05 13:42


  • jackal666.daniel - 2012-09-05 13:43

    How moronic to bite the hand that feeds you.

  • gerhard.kress.3 - 2012-09-05 13:43

    This has gone far enough now. Call in the army.

  • GregGow1234 - 2012-09-05 13:43

    Cease operations close down the mine and send the migrants back to their countries.

      wwrer.ww - 2012-09-05 19:56

      How about just firing everyone and re-hiring new white workers. I'm sure they will find more than enough willing to work for those wages.

      comurray - 2012-09-06 09:36

      Yes, send all back to their respective homelands and let them starve if this what they want. Only employ locals who dearly want to work to provide for their families.

  • Jason - 2012-09-05 13:43

    And we are supposed to feel sorry for them??? Not this South African!! Once you threaten someones life you have committed a crime and are no longer a miner but a criminal! Police should arrest the 5 immediately on charges of assault and intimidation. And before you bunny huger's get all testy about the fact that they havent touched the management, you dont need to. If the management feel that they have the ability to kill them then it is assault.

  • adriaan.pieterse - 2012-09-05 13:44

    Just fire them and have them arrested for trespassing. This is madness you negotiate you do not demand, the greed of all parties involved will end up costing 1000's their jobs.

  • mantothieve.missingman - 2012-09-05 13:44

    Just close these mines and tell these morons to go find work somwhere els

  • dawiez - 2012-09-05 13:46

    And now the miners know the police's hands are tied. If they do anything they'll be crucified again...

  • Michael - 2012-09-05 13:46

    No! No! You see these guys are now getting out of hand, there is something else behind this..... And government must stop it immediately.... If it is Malema's influence, he must be arrested immediately.

  • michael.rampatla - 2012-09-05 13:46

    It is difficult to tell the miners they will get 12500 or not

  • richard.hipkin - 2012-09-05 13:47

    The tiny bit of sympathy I had for the miners... *POOF*

  • george.henderson.564 - 2012-09-05 13:48

    So instead of getting a raise, they'll be receiving no income at all...

  • nickey.vanrensburg - 2012-09-05 13:48

    ra ta ta ta ta ta ta.....HAUW !!! MAWHEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE !!!!

  • collen.vinjwa - 2012-09-05 13:49

    Yeah go ahead kill the management, that's what you better anyway killing! Then come back 2 us 2 feel sorry for u? I personally don't care if they kill you all, coz u also murderers. It won't be the 1st time you do that.

  • mark.haupt.31 - 2012-09-05 13:50

    I think the meltdown is beginning. When the ruling party cannot even decide on a leader we really cannot expect them to take any kind of constructive leadership in such a volatile situation. What they are doing, through their ineptitude and inactivity, is allowing the country to be brought to it's knees by thugs which shouldn't surprise us as that's exactly what they themselves are. I think our "Arab spring" has just inched that much closer.......

  • lydonmcg - 2012-09-05 13:50

    What a bunch of retards. Where do they think they're going to find employment if the mine shuts down? think that this uncivilised lot of trash can vote is disturbing. We should call for mandatory IQ tests before people are given the right to vote!

  • Joubs1957 - 2012-09-05 13:51

    We have a game on our hands here - I wonder who the winner is gonna be????

  • masego.shongwe.7 - 2012-09-05 13:52

    when will these men learn violance does not solve anything, 44 people lost their lives, is that not enough. threatening to kill will not grant them their demand.

  • justice.league.9469 - 2012-09-05 13:55

    I have no issues with miners striking for better salaries. I do however have issues with them using violence and intimidating tactics against follow employees who wants to work. There forces behind the scenes that are making matters worse with empty promises only to enrich themselves with wealth and power.

  • william.sprague.12 - 2012-09-05 13:57

    Fire them all, close the mines. The unions/ANC have created a monster in this country. Malema can pay them a wage going forward. These miners must be charged. The last I heard, when SA still had laws, threatening to murder people was considered a crime. I have lost all hope for this country, we are fast becoming a banana republic. It is so sad to see. In principle I support their wage demand but this is not how it is done! Send them back to the bush to choke on the unions promises.

  • nicolas.gombert.16 - 2012-09-05 13:57

    Are these the same poor, innocent people that JZ released from prison? What is the next stop, as they have everybody in their pockets now? SAPS is now too scared to act decisively, the SANDF is useless and JZ has played his last card, which was definitely not an ace! Now there is nothing left in the pack except to either give in to the strikers or close the mine, in which case they won't have a job in any case. These miners have now clearly demonstrated that they are in firmly control and fear no authority or rule of law whatsoever. I can clearly see that the miners will win this battle, but South Africa is going to lose the war.

      wwrer.ww - 2012-09-05 20:14

      There is only one way: arrest them. Declare the strike illegal and arrest them if they strike, one by one. Throw them in jail, until everyone is back to work.

  • antionette.oberholzer - 2012-09-05 13:57

    Think you morons... If no one works then there is no money for anyone. I say lock them up for death threats and 'lose' the keys. \r\nWho do they think they are?

  • andrew.surtees1 - 2012-09-05 13:58

    bunch of animals! please try kill management or burn down the shaft cause i promise you right now, you wont even get the pay you are getting now! yet our leader mr Zuma sits back on his fat pay check and laughs at these idiots, like blady cattle!

  • Dipzen - 2012-09-05 13:59

    Tjo as in murder? Wow how quickly they forget. I'm for labour rights but threatening peoples' lives is where we should draw the line

  • Dipzen - 2012-09-05 14:00

    Tjo as in murder? Wow how quickly they forget. I'm for labour rights but threatening peoples' lives is where we should draw the line

  • DarrenCooper68 - 2012-09-05 14:01

    And these buffons expect to earn wages that civilised, educated people earn. Fire them all, there are plenty people that would love to earn what they earn. The Bargaining Council infrastructure was established by a democratic unionist government and the workers (as represented by democratic bodies)agreed to the the current wages. The government needs to man up and show the riff raff who is actually running the country.

  • leaproach.thekeeper - 2012-09-05 14:01

    Look at the sweater this fooker wears. Jean Paul Gaultier fragrance is only R800 to R1 000 per bottle! Methinks there's some much more sinister forces behind this whole saga.

  • shelley.vorster.9 - 2012-09-05 14:01

    Stupid stupid mindless bafoons. Fire the lot of them. Give the jobs to ones who are without. This violence in trickiling down into every thing else, but NOOOO this they just dont see.

  • pisciotta - 2012-09-05 14:02

    The world is watching. If there is a battle, it will be considered justified and once again SA considered not worthy of respect.

  • morris.khunou - 2012-09-05 14:02

    This murderous are beig treated like heroes! I repeat "THEY KILLED TEN PEOPLE AND 34 OF THEM COMMITTED SUICIDE" This war cats are blood thirsty!

  • maritza.beukes - 2012-09-05 14:03

    What will they accomplish by killing management? How will they get their jobs back? Looks like they aren't thinking it through. No job no pay and how will they get food? Steal for it?

  • nik.regnart.1 - 2012-09-05 14:03

    And they wonder why they get shot at!? Do they not realise that violence will get them nothing more than more of their co-workers in the morgue? It's really quite pathetic when you look at it...and obviously gets worse every tim eJuju opens his mouth with his thoughts on what the miners should be doing. And that's aside from the fact that they are all to thick to realise that they have all already lost out on 3 weeks pay, and they want the mines closed for what? Much rather have a low income than none at all...

  • carol.paterson.923 - 2012-09-05 14:03

    Should have shot all the miners when they had the chance.

  • pietie.haas.1 - 2012-09-05 14:04

    The guy in the picture wants a larger salary, but he is wearing a Jean Paul Gaultier shirt.

  • tracey.erasmus.92 - 2012-09-05 14:05

    They just to not seem to grasp that non production at mine will lead to closure and they WILL be out of work for GOOD!!!

  • carol.paterson.923 - 2012-09-05 14:05

    A threat like this can't be taken lightly. I can see the mine closing down and then these bastards will end up with nothing.

  • Conrad Janse van Rensburg - 2012-09-05 14:06

    I thought the disaster of the 10 that died was enough!

  • steven.webster26 - 2012-09-05 14:06

    Again where are the unions? and their control over there members? And how is it legal to threaten the lives and the property of fellow South Africans in such a public manner. If any "normal" working member of the public made a public threat to kill another person for any reason they would be incarcerated on the spot! So why is this any different? - a few weeks ago I may have shown some sympathy - but now I am sorry but these people have now thrown away any reason for what sympathy they may have gotten and just tossed it away To the unions I say shame on you for allowing your members to again incite violence. When will you realise that wage negotiations means exactly that negotiations! Your Demands are what have ultimately filled body bags and how many more members will you loose to more body bags or jail before you realise that you are barking up the wrong tree! and resort to legal solutions

  • johan.vanheerden.737 - 2012-09-05 14:08

    If this is not intimidation then I am the Pope

  • zelda.dickson - 2012-09-05 14:08

    And they wonder why they get killed.

  • jonathan.dutoit2 - 2012-09-05 14:08

    Go and watch this 2 minute clip and think about it.

  • sharon.houghton.984 - 2012-09-05 14:09

    It is embarrasing the lack of mentality of these people. I think you might find certain elements are egging these people on for their own benefit and not for the miners. They said they wanted an ungovernable country, well they are trying very hard to get one. No one will win, everyone will lose!!!

  • YuccaN - 2012-09-05 14:09

    In 20 years we have seen the inventions of smartphones, cellphones, Android, Facebook DVD, Blue Ray, end of cassettes, introduction of harsh smoking laws, etc. But SA seems to be just the same...

  • cj.venter - 2012-09-05 14:10

    gun them all down. why should our taxes go to free food, gym, education, water, electricity and accommodation for these dolts?

  • Victoria - 2012-09-05 14:11

    Right, so the strikers want them to shut down production. Could someone please explain to them: If there is no production, there is nothing to sell, if the the mine can't sell anything - they can't make money. If the mine has no money the how the hell are they supposed to even try to gives these fools a raise? Contrary to popular belief money does NOT grow on trees. It needs to be made. When/if the mine goes bankrupt then where are they going to get new jobs? My glory don't these people think further than today and their selfish greed?

  • marlene.hitchcock.9 - 2012-09-05 14:12

    Is it not a crime to threaten someone's life. Punishable by law. No need to prove anything, as they did it through the media.

  • mkhindana.peter - 2012-09-05 14:12

    They'll get R12.5 in hell.Even civil servants dont even earn that much.Every job plays a vital role in the country.Who do they think they are?

  • Michael - 2012-09-05 14:13

    All prominent politicians who were sympathetic to shot miners and actualy turning the scambags into heroes must now tell us what this threat means, what is it that police must do whe there is an open threat to kill people?

  • Henry West - 2012-09-05 14:13

    I'm selling popcorn for those who watch this commedy!!! Its way past time to fire the lot of them..