Lonmin bloodshed has global implications

2012-08-17 12:33

London - The deadly union turf war at a Lonmin [JSE:LON] platinum mine is a sovereign challenge and a global concern. South Africa has most of the world’s platinum, an essential metal in car exhausts. It’s up to the government to restore order. The mining groups are stuck and have no easy options.

The London-headquartered company has been forced to shut down all its South African platinum operations, which account for 12% of global platinum output. 

As a result of the disruption, Lonmin has so far lost six days of mined production, representing approximately 300,000 tonnes of ore, or 15,000 platinum equivalent ounces.

South Africa is home to 80% of the world's known platinum reserves, but rising power and labour costs and a steep decline in the price of the precious metal this year have left many mines struggling to stay afloat.

World platinum prices spiked nearly 3% on Thursday as the full extent of the violence became clear, and rose again on Friday to a 5-week high of $1 450 an ounce.

Lonmin shares in London and Johannesburg fell more than 5% to 4-year lows, bringing their losses since the violence began a week ago to nearly 20%.

Economists warn that the violence could scare away foreign investment.

Analysts believe the violence could spread to other mining sectors and hurt employment‚ when nearly a quarter of the country’s work force is unemployed.

Andrew Joannou‚ chief investment officer at Afena Capital‚ said foreign investors could become nervous when looking for investments in SA.

“When it starts getting attention in the international news‚ it will make offshore investors even more nervous‚ not just for Lonmin and the platinum industry as a whole‚ but they will worry about whether or not it could spread into the other sectors like gold‚” Joannou said.

“We haven’t seen it yet‚ but it could happen. With the rand platinum group metals basket price so low‚ any additional production cuts or cost increases will have a significant impact‚” he said.

Chris Hart‚ chief economist at Investment Solutions‚ said the situation at Lonmin could be damaging to investment and the employment sector.

“The investor response would be to invest in platinum but (not) platinum mining shares. Companies won’t be able to attract capital for investment‚ which may contract the industry‚” Hart said.

He said the responsibility rested with the leadership of unions.

“This is about leadership and unions trying to gain prominence and make a name for themselves. Unions can make demands on behalf of labour but if those demands can’t be met then it is simply political grandstanding‚” he said.

Hart said this could be damaging to workers as well as the unemployed‚ as such violence could deter investments that could create jobs.

Although the striking Marikana miners were demanding huge pay hikes, the roots of the trouble lie in a challenge by the upstart Association of Mineworkers and Construction Union (AMCU) to the 25-year dominance of the National Union of Mineworkers (NUM), a close ally of the ruling ANC.

“There is clearly an element in this that a key supporter of the ANC - the NUM - has come under threat from these protesting workers,” said Nic Borain, an independent political analyst.

President Jacob Zuma, who faces an internal ANC leadership election in December, said he was “shocked and dismayed” at the violence, but made no comment on the police behaviour.

“We believe there is enough space in our democratic order for any dispute to be resolved through dialogue without any breaches of the law or violence,” he said in a statement.

Lonmin Chairperson Roger Phillimore said in a statement: “We are treating the developments around police operations this afternoon with the utmost seriousness. The South African Police Service (SAPS) have been in charge of public order and safety on the ground since the violence between competing labour factions erupted over the weekend, claiming the lives of eight of our employees and two police officers. It goes without saying that we deeply regret the further loss of life in what is clearly a public order rather than labour relations associated matter.”

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  • arthur.hugh - 2012-08-17 12:38

    Slow clap. And here ladies and gents, is the only reason Zuma is hurrying home.

      christof.coetzee - 2012-08-17 13:39

      The after effects of bad governance is starting to show in the form of dead bodies.... what will it take for the masses to realize that this government is the death-sentence of this country. Every thing, person or entity (unions) related to the ANC spells bad news each and every time, we're at the 18 year mark now and its just getting worse.

      luvo.luvos - 2012-08-17 13:47

      He excuses himself in the middle of a conference to attend to far pressing issues at home. The yuppies have something negative to say about that. He then decides to continue attending the meaningless conference until its completion and is greeted with a furore of vitriol at home. Phew, its a dog's life. You just can't win if you deal with these people which is why just have to do what you deem fit under the circumstances !!

      edward.patterson.923 - 2012-08-17 13:47

      There is another "world concern" that should very much concern SA and that is that (from a business standpoint) a resource becomes to expensive, to rare, or the source where one gets it becomes too unstable, then the business finds an alternative resource. So if SA has 80% of the known platinum in the world and the world makes x number of products from platinum and SA becomes an unreliable supplier because of an unstable workforce or even government, then the world will find another, more stable product to do the work of platinum and SA will have 80% of nothing. And it will happen. When the United States wanted a long range bomber that would avoid radar, they were asking for technologies and metals that didn't exist and yet five companies bid on the project and said they could deliver the plane in 5 years and the company that got the project did invent those technologies and metals in 5 years. No the world can and will move on from resources that are unreliable.

      abdulrazak.modak - 2012-08-17 15:55

      this is SA's own "mine kampf!"

  • gerhardus.windpomp - 2012-08-17 12:38

    Support NUM and the ANC or get shot.

  • nigel.vanysendyk - 2012-08-17 12:41

    So will AMCU take responsibility for the behavior of their members & the subsequent damage to the economy & job losses that are now bound to follow. Seems like many fingers are pointing to AMCU.

      kevin.pitzer - 2012-08-17 12:47

      Well said Nigel....I think this point is on most of our minds.

      christof.coetzee - 2012-08-17 13:27


      christof.coetzee - 2012-08-17 13:29

      These Unions and Union members must learn that they cannot kill and vandalize as they like, storming the police with weapons and expect not to get shot.

      ally.oh.7 - 2012-08-17 13:39

      Take responsibility? Hell, no --- that's not the way things are done in SA anymore.

      abdulrazak.modak - 2012-08-17 15:57

      black on black violence, reminiscent of the old days.............

      lindela.e.mtshali - 2012-08-18 08:07

      @Nigel I agree that AMCU has blood on their hands. But I sincerely hope that this battle between the unions has nothing to do with who controls the masses. Unions are the best way to organise. You can tie in an unrelated political agenda with the workers interests. You can control or influence their votes if they are on your side. People in the US, who are far more literate and have access to the internet and knowledge. They have cable tv and access to social media. Yet the very same people are easily indoctrinated by the dominant parties there. They vote against their own interests because they can't analyse things. Now contrast that with our miners who mostly haven't fininished school, or even primary school. the NUM is part of Cosatu and is affiliated to the ANC. This could be political as well. Although on the surface it looks like a labour dispute in a troubled mining sector with dropping prices of platinum and rising costs.

  • hermann.hanekom - 2012-08-17 12:45

    Yea, heard the same pessimism after 16 June 1976.

      Joubs1957 - 2012-08-17 13:23

      And this time it is not about language ???? WTF ????

      christof.coetzee - 2012-08-17 13:47

      Joubs, its about ill-disciplined, vandalistic thugs. In many countries many people are just too happy to have a job, let alone to make use of a strike to kill non-striking colleagues and loot and vandalize.

  • john.loveland.9 - 2012-08-17 12:45

    And here we were all told it wasn't a "union turf war" but rather a wage dispute. Not that they were in wage talks with anyone....

  • Jacques - 2012-08-17 12:46

    This is where we need our amoebic president to show some steel and manage this... I guess this is what you get if you promise voters the moon and the stars and don't deliver. They get frustrated, this happens and 5 years down the line our economy is buggered.

      Joubs1957 - 2012-08-17 13:24

      The only steel he knows is "steal" the taxpayers money!!!! Through bribery and corruption - I mean a court of law found him guilty! What did we expect of this man?

  • customdesign - 2012-08-17 12:46

    They should ban unions

      ally.oh.7 - 2012-08-17 13:41

      100 % agree. Unions are there for the protection of the mediocre.

  • sifiso.mabaso - 2012-08-17 12:47

    cant beleive capitalists are only worried about profits,we havent even buried the dead,sies!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

      dean.swift.737 - 2012-08-17 12:54

      They are worried about investment. No investments into the mine, the mine closes down and everyone losses their jobs.

      rocky.bell.927 - 2012-08-17 13:01

      Get your facts right. A mine is there to make profit: to pay the workers, do capital expenditures, pay dividends to investors. Don't distort the issues.

      sheralee.jones - 2012-08-17 13:04

      Sifiso, they aren't worried about profits they are worried about being able to operate. Nobody who has half a brain goes into business NOT to make money. Profits benefit the country as they pay taxes on profits. No profits not tax - if a business is not making money it is out of business. I sometimes wonder how you people think!!!!

      michael.anthony.716195 - 2012-08-17 13:04

      Sifiso Unprofitable mines - systematic closures in the mining sector - more misery, loss of jobs and earnings - inevitable crime - more deaths. Should I draw a picture?

  • veldt66 - 2012-08-17 12:49

    The world will then understand the current capitalist system isn't working. U can't fckn mine the world's most expensive metal under African tribal land

      ally.oh.7 - 2012-08-17 13:45

      You obviously know nothing about how capitalism is the only system that creates jobs, generates wealth for all and pays taxes, and therefore props up social services. Time for your lesson in common sense 101.

  • phillip.phogole - 2012-08-17 12:49

    We do not have police here in south africa,we got killers who were ordered by Nathi Mthethwa to shoot to kill,Zuma as comander in chief still need scond term in order to instruct more killing in the next protest for food,water which is still coming aftr Mangaung.

      philip.buys.1 - 2012-08-17 13:15

      The police did what they needed to do. Hats off to them. Its time that people learn that there is basic rules. The "workers" killed, and wanted to kill more. The police stopped them. That is their job. The workers dumbed their basic human rights when they started killing.

      grant.callaway.50 - 2012-08-17 13:21

      ...then dont protest for food and water! Rather vote for a government who can provide it. Much easier, dont ya think??

  • veldt66 - 2012-08-17 12:50

    The world will then understand the current capitalist system isn't working. U can't fckn mine the world's most expensive metal under African tribal land

      michael.anthony.716195 - 2012-08-17 12:59

      And Socialism would create enough jobs? On some collective rice paddy? But if Platinum was found on non-tribal land that would be OK? Not sure what your comments mean.

      bloodstone.shakespeare - 2012-08-17 13:02

      Why, do the tribes want to mine it themselves?

      sandile.memela1 - 2012-08-17 13:26

      Stop throwing around words you don't understand, you going to hurt yourself. Bottom line is, we had scores of under informed people bein led into a situation that cost some of them their lives.

      pisciotta - 2012-08-17 13:37

      veldt66 - then go eat that metal. You ignorant nose picking bushman.

      luvo.luvos - 2012-08-17 13:42

      Jy's dom baba!!

  • UNITY - 2012-08-17 12:50

    Leadership and the Unions are to blame. They should have protocol in place of communication with Shop Stewards and themselves , and advising of illegal strike and protests. If we don't get our act right , we will lose foreign investment! If we hold the market share in platinum supply, then we must protect the commodity at all costs. If leadership doesn't resolve itself in this country as well as clear policy and direction we heading as an economy... We could be steering a ghost ship in years to come..with all the treasure looted! Through lack of leadership!

  • zhansrod - 2012-08-17 12:52

    You lay in the bed you've made so don't be surprised when the bed bugs bite. Next time be a human being and protest in a civil manner. And try not to protest everytime John Doe drops a penny, all it does is undermine the significance of real protests. Please.

      luvo.luvos - 2012-08-17 13:16

      Oh schucks please spare us your white holier-than-attitude and come up with solutions. Your kind does not have to deal with mere survival issues as you've been well catered for by the institutions. It galls me to see these kind of comments from people who have it all against those who have nothing. Makes me wanna puke!!

  • charmain.nel.7 - 2012-08-17 12:57

    so what must the cops do stand by and get killed these miners are the pigs in the picture and so is the unions and the anc i will not stand by and get shot for this country even if i am a cop

      mario.polanski.3 - 2012-08-17 13:40

      Luvo, why do you think that some people have it all and others don't. That is the way the world works and will always work. People always get back in direct proportion to what they have made of themselves in life. If you happen to be a complete loser spending your days sitting on a log in the sun continuously blaming everyone else for your failures, then the rewards you receive will exactly match your input.

  • sandile.memela1 - 2012-08-17 12:58

    I can't say much about my black brothers who refuse to see the difficult position the police were put in. But that being said, the SAPS looked so disorganized. They were just running all over the show, it didn't look like they knew what they were doing. This incident proves to me that our police force is generally incompetent.

      jay.reede - 2012-08-17 13:12

      100% Agreed

      christof.coetzee - 2012-08-17 14:01

      They did not look that disorganized to me - that is what war conflict (contact) looks like, in this case SAPS were almost caught off guard, but made the best of it defending their own lives. I'm sure many of them feel terrible about the lives they took, but they had no choice.

      lindela.e.mtshali - 2012-08-18 08:42

      I am sure they were not expecting what happened. Its not easy to do wht they do. Some of them will end in a depression hospital. Trust me they are human they feel terrible about what they were forced to do. They will need sleeping pills just to fall asleep. Killing a human being is not an easy thing. Soldiers and police suffer from Post Traumatic Stress Disorder. The police have very bad press. But they are not as incompetent as people think. Just read the newspapers and find out about the many criminals who get caught after committing crimes and assuming they will get away with it.Or those who challenge them on shootout. It generally doesn't end very well for the other side.

      flysouth - 2012-08-18 11:50

      @lindela.e.mtshali Nonsense - the miners were fully expecting to do battle. Why else be armed to the teeth and have your witch-doctors going around with muti to ward off the expected bullets? It is amazing to me that what we have seen here is akin to the Zulu War of 1879 when spear-wielding warrior approached massed rifles and were mown down like grass - what were the strikers thinking,to bring spears to a fight against automatic military weapons capable of firing hundred of rounds per minute with great accuracy? Possible they believed that police would never open fire with live ammo, because we have all seen over years how such violent protests have been improperly handled with kid-gloves. Just how stupid and wrong is it possible to be in the 21st century?

  • itse.nnete.1 - 2012-08-17 12:59

    "...It goes without saying that we deeply regret the further loss of life in what is clearly a public order rather than labour relations associated matter.” Where have you been? Of course this was a labour relations issue.The labourers are underpaid,they went on strike for a salary increment.Clearly you lack listening skills.

      klipkop.degroote - 2012-08-17 13:38

      I also want a better salary but my boss cannot afford it. What should I do? Protest and try to kill him with a panga? Nah, I think I will just start looking for something that pays more.

      flysouth - 2012-08-18 11:52

      I am sure the miners were paid exactly what they agreed to be paid when they signed on to work for the mine. Since they are not slaves their options include seeking other work which may pay better if they have the skills which attract better pay.

  • andre.burrows.92 - 2012-08-17 13:06

    Well done cANCer , your very own Sharpeville!!! Viva!!!

      henri.robert - 2012-08-17 13:42

      Oh no, another public holiday!!!

  • armand.horn.58 - 2012-08-17 13:09

    "We believe there is enough space in our democratic order for any dispute to be resolved through dialogue without any breaches of the law or violence,” he said in a statement......As long as the ANC and her associates wins the dispute.

  • tebo.w.ganyani - 2012-08-17 13:09

    lol scare away investors???screw them, who told them thya needed. We are the country with resources of which thy need jst imagine 80 of platinum off. Gold 2nd producere off. Coal production off. Oooh food supply to thya countries off. Nickel /phosphate off. Mxm let this investors behave thy need us !!!

      jay.reede - 2012-08-17 13:16

      Not worth replying ... you will not understand anyway

      sharon.truebodyvice - 2012-08-17 13:37

      I really think u are a retard .................

      klipkop.degroote - 2012-08-17 13:44

      I will give it a try Jay. So Tebo if the INVESTORS pull their money out, how will you be able to get the resources out of the ground? If you cannot pay your workers or your bills because you will have NO MONEY if there is NO FINANCIAL INVESTMENT by INVESTORS.

      lebo.phakedi.7 - 2012-08-17 14:05

      Turn everything off and how are people getting money to survive? No country survives purely on its own! Yes we have precious metals but other countries have things critical to us----we cut them off, they cut us off and we'll be begging them before they are begging us. We are still a third world country trying to keep growing and sustain that growth. There is so much more that goes into these things that people study for years to understand. You saying screw them is actually you saying screw the South African People. Well done, lets give everyone more ammunition to believe that stereotypes, generalizations and prejudice is justified. Again well done. And as human beings can we please take some real time to mourn dead human beings.

      zenithdolphin - 2012-08-18 12:48

      tebo you need to study a few basic history lessons, investors go to places where there is a return on their investments,without instability and potential loss. There are many other countries who will gladly welcome them with open arms, and with less uncertainty...

  • Zeebbrah - 2012-08-17 13:15

    Thumb UP if you think R4000/ month is FAIR or thumbs DOWN if its UNFAIR. Remember its hard labour working undergound in harsh environment. - 2012-08-17 13:34

      Zeebbrah, I think you should maybe put this in perspective. Or let me assist you.. That is R4000 on the lowest scale, which is after deductions (Pension, medical aid, housing). These things cost the company around another R5000 per person. So now we are looking at the lowest paid persons earning around R9000 per month. Not bad considering they don't even have Std.2 (Grade4). Trust me, I work with this every day. The problem is with the unions making their members believe that they are entitled to so much more.

      johan.vanheerden.12 - 2012-08-17 14:01

      Nobody is forcing anyone to work there

      Zeebbrah - 2012-08-17 15:00

      So R4000 they get housing? But that is probably in a hostel for a single man. If they have family they need to pay rent so that could be R1000-R2000/month, food for a family could be up to R2000/month. Transport could be another R500. Additional stuff like kids clothes, cell phones, any policies, water & elec if they renting a place for family could also add another R500. Dude you need to get a reality check and see that the cost of living in SA has rocketed and R4000 goes nowhere!! This aint the 1980's anymore where everything was cheap u know. Do the sums and u will see R4000 for a man who has a family is PATHETIC. If he has a Std 2 well that is because he never had the chance to goto your nice white school in Rustenburg - 2012-08-17 15:27

      Zeebbra, I did not go to school in Rustenburg... I don't stay there either. You cannot blame your lack of education on your employer or use it as an excuse for higher wages. It is about supply and demand. Do you know what it cost to mine 1 ounce of platinum or gold? You obviously have no idea! Regardless... its about business, not charity. Google Mechanized mining and you will see that these mines could have fired a lot of these people if they really wanted to. This is the problem in SA, a total sense of entitlement and people wanting to live beyond their current means.. You want more, better yourself and work to get more!!! - 2012-08-17 15:39

      Oh yes, we both forgot the most important salary deduction..... Union fees, we cant be having none of that of not paying the "Kings". There is you problem right there...

      Zeebbrah - 2012-08-17 16:01

      @UnReasonableMan, having a std 2 is sufficient to do even a Shift boss or even a Mine Captains job, you only need to know how to add up the centares at the end of month and tik some numbers into a spreadsheet and then also stand around a planning and act smart when actual fact the OP's manager and tech services are actually telling you where and what to mine. The PGM business is extremely profitable business , 10 years ago Pt was $500/oz and now its 3x that at $1500/oz, never mind the other revenue from Au,Pd and Rh(which can normally cover the process costs alone). You have too many fat cats on super massive salaries at the top. You think we dont know about the ridiculous salaries and bonuses you earn. Catch a wake up. By the way your C1 cost is $1000/oz far short of the $1500/oz plus the other rev from other PGM. You clearly dont know too much about economics.

      Zeebbrah - 2012-08-17 16:17

      Lonmin made an operating profit of over a BILLION rand to the end of March 2011. Yes a BILLION rand profit, thats after paying all your fat salaries/ bonuses etc. End of March 2012 was distrastrous only R100million profit but that was only cos the real workers stopped working. When the real worker stops working you soon realise you have NOTHING! End of March 2013 you gonna be making a loss for sure!! You need to realise where the real work gets done and that is underground, and so you need to respect those people not pay them pathetic salaries. Think we should publicise salaries on the patterson grading and see what people think.

  • dinolloyd - 2012-08-17 13:16

    Wrong Chris Hart, the responsibility rests with the leadership of mine management, local government and trade unions equally. Considering the escalation of violence on the ground, which despite Phillimore's comments, DOES stem from a labour related issue. The fact that all three are dodging any form of responsibility, is indicative of their inept leadership. Forked tongues and two faces, the lot of them.

  • mdu.s.khumalo - 2012-08-17 13:20

    Where is our Vice President when everybody is asking for Zuma's head. I guess he is preparing a condolence speech, very good at delivering that aspect.

  • walter.lebza - 2012-08-17 13:24

    This londoners are worried about profit loss. Poor south african workers were not even gaining anything, now they're dead, they worked on unsafe conditions, Many of them die in the mines and leave their families poor. This mining companies, must pay their workers or pack and go. This minerals MUST benefit south african people not foreigners.

      jay.reede - 2012-08-17 13:29

      Another one who doesnt understand economics ...

      johan.vanheerden.12 - 2012-08-17 13:57

      Zakhele you clearly type faster than you think. You make no sense at all

  • frost.frost.980 - 2012-08-17 13:27

    How the F can police use Real bullets, what happen to Rubber bullets??? Really

      michael.anthony.716195 - 2012-08-17 13:31

      Rubber factory was on strike last month.

  • frans.martins - 2012-08-17 13:32

    Time the world disinvets in this fiasco of a country until such time that there is a regime change that cares about its people, kicks out the foreigners, is not corrupt, can manage its finances and make the country a stable and prosperous place etc. for all its citizens!

  • walter.lebza - 2012-08-17 13:32

    Now I agree with Malema when he said this mines must be nationalised. This companies exploit our people, they benefit from our minerals and leave our people poor. Many of this workers die in the mines and leave their families helpless. South africans must benefit from this minerals not london people.

      frans.martins - 2012-08-17 13:38

      I stand corrected, the majority of miners are from outside ZA are they not? So then how does ZA'rs benefit?

      walter.lebza - 2012-08-17 15:59

      Frans. if this companies could start paying workers properly maybe SA'ns will start working in the mines. SA'n way of living is too expensive. But If this workers and mine companies are not SA'n. then lets close this mines. Until this companies hire SA'ns and pay them properly.

  • claire.baatjes - 2012-08-17 13:34

    Blame the Unions... they are a bunch of idiots! Well done you bunch of ignorant assess!

  • denis.dendrinos - 2012-08-17 13:37

    Whats really sad is that these poor guys desperate for a better life (although 12k is a stretch) are being used like this by the unions. From an article I read on mail & guardian - it seems these guys were attacked supposedly by NUM members........ So they armed themselves and took the high ground.....and were having non of it when police tried to talk them down because they suspected it a NUM ploy...... Look, don't get me wrong, they were also in the wrong killing people etc.......but still a sad sad situation all round really!! Interesting that platinum is now on it's way up - the conspiracy theorist in me makes me ponder if Lonmin hadn't planned this to increase demand...... (yes yes - I know - 20% loss and would be so so wrong all round)

  • damonsb - 2012-08-17 13:41

    Lives were lost and they worry about money.Feed the hunger,protect the children,help the homeless should be more of a worry to you then flippin investors.

      Muffin_man_can - 2012-08-17 23:01

      And who will then provide work to these mine workers? The government? They can't even provide basic public services, nevermind running a highly sophisticated business such as a mine

  • thando.moloi.9 - 2012-08-17 14:19

    If only this country was left to the genius of white people, we wouldnt be here would we? I thought these white people have already taken the land......say what?

  • hanlie.noeth - 2012-08-17 16:26

    Very sad, but putting myself into a policeman's way I wouldn't have protected myself and those around me. If anyone of us saw that many people running towards us, hear gun shots and have lost two colleagues we will return fire just like the police did. They are not machines and have the same fears as anyone of us might have in those conditions. My thoughts and prayers go out to all the families who have lost love ones.

  • sefaratk - 2012-08-17 17:04

    Our land should be belongs to us...Away with this Hyenas.

      Muffin_man_can - 2012-08-17 22:57

      Another dumb ass

  • winifred.watson.9 - 2012-08-17 17:49

    I am sorry for the families but they must realize, next time dont let union bosses stir up trouble. If you think, the police are going to stand and be killed by your husbands you are wrong, they have families too and some of their wives are grieving as well. Dont blame the police minister, blame the union bosses, they are the ones that have blood on their hands. Nothing is ever achieved through violence. People are not tired of striking workers, protestors and demonstrator who become unruly and trash and burn other peoples properties. Maybe this is time to realize South Africa is in trouble. There has been huge coverage overseas, shall we also tell them about the rapes, murders hijackings and senseless killing of our farmers. Maybe they should hear about this too.

  • joe.peters.56 - 2012-08-17 17:50

    vote DA

      madoda.monamudi - 2012-08-17 22:30


  • rodney.scholtz - 2012-08-17 20:59

    This is an 'unfortunate' turnout of events. I was in personal contact with the VP of Lonmin during which I offered him an affordable solution to prevent situations like this one from occuring. I was told in no uncertain terms that this was not a priority. I have proof of these emails and the response from both the VP and the CSO - Chief Safety Officer. This was nearly two years ago! Up to now Lonmin have made no effort for me to assist them with this issue. Now look at the outcome.

  • madoda.monamudi - 2012-08-17 22:39

    People die mine management busy crying for the investors, away with those investors we calling for Nationalization of mines. Mine workers are being exploited at Marikana.

      Muffin_man_can - 2012-08-17 22:55

      Once a fool always a fool Madoda? When will africans like you wake up? Maybe when you are choking on your own debt like your brothers in zimbabwe

  • maureen.churchill.9 - 2012-08-18 08:48

    This government needs to take their digits out their most southern orifice and condemn what is not right...;ANC,ANCYL in Cape Town disruption. Come on man do something before it is too late

  • maniespoelstra - 2012-08-18 10:25


      winifred.watson.9 - 2012-08-18 10:58

      ok manniespoelstra lets see you offer your services for the next riot. Its easy to speak, these protestors were armed and had been incited by the unions. Where the Union bosses in all this, no they turned tail and ran away. Did you see them trying to talk sense to the protestors, no they were far away by then. Put yourself in the shoes of the police and lets just see how brave you would have been. Violence brings on more violence hence tragic endings.

  • flysouth - 2012-08-18 11:42

    I would imagine that, after this African clusterphukc, there are scientists beavering away at finding a replacement for platinum in catalytic converters etc. I have read that there are alternatives. Possible replacements are palladium and rhodium but the biggie under investigation for a while already, due to the high price of platinum,is tungsten carbide, a metallic compound just one thousandth the cost of platinum. This incident will hasten such scientific development and the use of that replacement universally, will finish the entire SA platinum mining industry.

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