Govt admits King Shaka mistake
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Govt admits King Shaka mistake

2010-05-05 08:04

Cape Town - The King Shaka airport was situated 30km outside Durban without thorough planning for public transport to it, said Transport deputy director-general Lanfranc Situma on Tuesday.

He told the parliamentary portfolio committee on transport that government should admit it had been a massive mistake.

The oversight was the result of silo planning without proper consultation. It had been assumed that everyone in Durban possessed a car, he said during the presentation of the Department of Transport’s national transport master plan up to 2050.

Situma added that these days road signs warning people about potholes needed to be erected in South Africa, because the proper actions had not been taken timeously.

The transport master plan consists of comprehensive road, rail, harbour and airport projects up to and including 2050 – at a cost of R777bn.

Some of the plans involve rapid train networks between Johannesburg and Limpopo, Durban and Cape Town.

Pre-feasibility studies will be done so government can decide whether such projects, which in reality involve extending the Gautrein network, are affordable.

Projects regarded as critical include a fast train between Johannesburg and Durban, a passenger train from Pretoria to Polokwane, a doubling of the Huguenot tunnel between Paarl and Worcester and a modern rail line between Port Elizabeth and East London.

- Sake24.com

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Comments
  • John - 2010-05-05 09:03

    As far as I can recall, this project began many years ago under the previous government - and there were rumours then of the land being bought from buddies of that government.....

  • NiceOne@THE MAN - 2010-05-05 09:04

    lets shut him up before he starts....... THE MAN - "ANC has to awnser to no one. You white people are all the same, always complaining. Probably because the name is black you have a problem. Taxi's will transport our people, the rest of you can walk" - There we go, im sure it would have gone something like that, so THE MAN, you have no reason to comment, ive done it for you ....

  • The solution - 2010-05-05 09:04

    @Nice One: my initial comment was a bit tongue-in-the-cheeck ;-) Yip, well summed up yourself...a lack of proper planning due to incompetence. (My further thoughts: what type of market can afford air-tickets? Certainly not those that depend on public transport...so why their issue of a pub trsnprt system? Up to now, all local airports coped well enough with thorough road access & enough car parking spaces).

  • GLomymaar - 2010-05-05 09:05

    The airport is there and can not be wished away - it is better if the people acknowledge their mistake and plan how to fix it than rather ignore it - everything government does is going to cost a fortune due to variuos reasons - but acknowledge the problem and work on a solution and fix it - aleast then money gets spend on something and does not not just simply disappear

  • NiceOne@TheSolution - 2010-05-05 09:07

    Glad you agree !!!

  • Reader - 2010-05-05 09:07

    @NiceOne. Idiot!!! He was joking!!! You look very stupid now. Get back to work before you hurt yourself thinking!!!

  • BART - 2010-05-05 09:08

    Why do we even bother reporting this rubbish, we all know government is totally incompetent, all to show the so called white man it can be done by them when in fact they are shooting themselves in the foot, time and time again, how many houses could this have built.

  • Positive Side... - 2010-05-05 09:09

    I think that the banks should invest in entrepreneurs, openening shuttle services to and from the airport. This way a few unemployed people can start a business where there is definitely an opportunity.

  • Gooseman - 2010-05-05 09:11

    Well, what more could you expect from these idiots. They ASSUME everyone has a car.. Now we all know what assume means.. making an ASS out of U and ME

  • NiceOne @ Reader - 2010-05-05 09:12

    thanks for your input - didn't realize this was HBO comedy comments. You better hope im not a pilot, you comment might hurt someone.... let me rather go back to work before you start crying

  • Matwetwe - 2010-05-05 09:22

    Why bother with trains or cars for that matter. You should have a small airport in the middle of Durban to take the people to and fro the big airport... Think about the advantages, you could leave the pot holes as they are. Oh and you'll save the money of the pot holes signs too. What a clever idea!!!

  • Songs - 2010-05-05 09:42

    Lets face it, out Govnt has no clue what they are doing! All they know how to do really well is to fatten their pockets. Admit into making a mistake?! Fat chance! I do hope my fellow African people will look at this more broadly. We moved from a demon to a devil himself! Yes, we had major issues with the "white" govnmt but this, is just running the country down.

  • Carolyn - 2010-05-05 09:46

    NO CAR, SO WHAT DO I DO, FLY???? HIJACK A TAXI??? OR ASK MIKE STUTCLIFF FOR A LIFT.??

  • ANON - 2010-05-05 09:46

    WHAT A BIG SURPRISE!!!!!!!!

  • JS - 2010-05-05 09:49

    Common guys, give them a break. They were planning how to spend all the fraudulent contract money - they can fix these problems once they need to travel to the airport going on their spending sprees and very well deserved holidays after the disastrous planning of the airport project - who cares(except the tax payers who keep the boat afloat)??

  • AlsDad - 2010-05-05 09:53

    The whole thing never made sense to me! Building a complete new airport so far North! Someone or many had to have had greased palms to do it! I am a bit biased as I travel to Scottburgh on a regular basis and now it's quicker to drive! :-)

  • AlsDad - 2010-05-05 09:56

    Just heard they're planning to build a "KwazTrain" to get the peoples to the airport!

  • Shaka - 2010-05-05 10:03

    @michael I totally agree with, there should be buses going from and to the airport.

  • deebee - 2010-05-05 10:12

    I lived in Durban during the 70's and 80's when plans were already then in place for this airport, and indeed I had heard then that the land had already been bought by the Nats from their buddies, so not all the blame can put at the ANC's door - they've just perfected what the previous govt started

  • Patrick - 2010-05-05 10:15

    It gets far worse. On the morning of the second day after the new Shaka airport opened the Ethickweni Muni. closed off the M4 north, which is a liberally signposted major road access to the new airport, because of a cycle race. So, even those WITH cars would have had difficulty accessing the new airport. I also agree that the summarily road toll tax is a rip-off and so is the fact that covered parking at the new airport costs some 66% more for the first hour.At Shaka you get shade cloth for the same price as covered parking at Tambo. By the way, does the law (Roads Act) not state that an alternative road has to be provided in the cae of a toll road?? No alternative exists at the new Durban airport with the consequence that airport users are forced to pay a toll to access a public facility. This sets a new precedent. What next: toll the roads to the Union bldgs., courts and police stations??

  • THE EASY SOLUTION - 2010-05-05 10:23

    I say we build a monorail from the old airport to the new one and then people can arrive at the old one and be transferred to the new one. That way more ANC pockets can be filled by being involved in the new project as well. Damn I'm joining the ANC today.

  • solutiuons.inc - 2010-05-05 10:24

    ha ha ha ha, what i find funny are the critics who wait for the completion of the project only to throw in questions when its all said and done, where were they when the project was in its infancy....

  • SOLUTIONS.INC - 2010-05-05 10:29

    before when someone made comments like this is africa and this is the way of africans i used to get cross as an african . truly its all clear now . if anyone suggests a better way of doing things and they belong to the opposition they are enemies of the state. .. african politics its all a joke. selfishness, fat wallets at the expense of the masses, ask grand dad up north.

  • JS - 2010-05-05 10:46

    @ solutiuons.inc: We, the broad public, became aware of the project a few months before they opened the airport. We cannot ask questions about something we are not aware of and do you honestly think it would have changed anything if we asked these questions in time. It did not help with the Gautrain project, so lets just have fun critisizing them.

  • flequent flyer - 2010-05-05 10:56

    Huh? Wot's this all about? Cape Town International Airport is about 20 plus km outside Cape Town and if you want to get there you have to drive (internal combustion, cars, buses, taxis). There's no rail link. Joburg also never had a rail link until now. Wot's new? If my car is broke I ask a friend to drive me there. Or I take a train to town and then a shuttle bus to the aerodrome.

  • zeek - 2010-05-05 10:57

    @solutiuons.inc : many, many people campaigned against this unnecessary white elelphant. For many years we fought gov on this one but, in their wisdom, they ignored us and built this monstrosity - which by the way was about 3 or 4 BILLION over budget. Moreover, no international airline wants to fly there - the demand is non-existent. Finally, Comair was not allowed to buy the old airport, as it would provide too much competition for the new one and the rip-off artists ACSA (owned by gov).

  • Puleng Moloi - 2010-05-05 11:02

    The Airport is ridiculously far. And nobody knows how to get there without a private car. I live in the south of Durban, having the airport less than 10 minutes away is a blow for myself and the people who actually worked there. Government or should I say Mr Sutcliffe should find a spot in the CBD or in Durban that will take people to and from the Airport. Instead going to bully people who work at the market. Governement makes decisions that look pretty in their eyes.Research should have been done as to how the affects of the new airport would impact people. Clearly this statement came to late.

  • @Ronisha - 2010-05-05 11:06

    Punctuation?

  • solutiuons.inc - 2010-05-05 11:07

    how far is the airport anyway, it might be good for the future as towns and cities grow lets wait and find out. can someone please tell me in terms of kms how far this airport actually is from CBD.

  • Tumelo - 2010-05-05 11:27

    OR Tambo (frm Jan Smuts) is around 30km away from JHB. Whats the fuss, at least its safe from a skycrapper being attacked!

  • @RONISHA - 2010-05-05 11:37

    what the heck? do you know about lower case letters, punctuation and the use of proper english when trying to type in english? WOW! "northcoastian" indeed!

  • Biker Mouse from Mar - 2010-05-05 11:44

    Having used the new airport yesterday, if you ain't got a car then you is royally screwed!!

  • Eish..Ja! - 2010-05-05 11:46

    Eish, no wonder they can't fix the potholes. Easier to erect a sign. How stupid can one be to asume that everyone have a car. When you fly to Durban fron ORT you leave your car behind my dear minister. we, as taxpayers does not have a car at every airport.

  • Paul - 2010-05-05 11:48

    It was not a mistake my friends it was a calculated effort to make sure that another tender was issued thus creating more employment .There i no way billions can be used without a due diligence having being completed.So hats of to the Government for once again making good use of the tax payers money

  • BH - 2010-05-05 11:49

    I believe that the King Shaka airport should have never been on the goverment's agenda at all, but for them it is purely BUSINESS as usual. KZN did not need a new airport. Instead of upgrading Durban Internationl, they went ahead and build a new one without taking important factors into consideration. Well, perhaps they did but looked the other way...towards the money tree FAIL FAIL FAIL FAIL once again.

  • Duncan Gohl - 2010-05-05 11:54

    More projects, more backhanders !

  • StopTheNewWorldOrder - 2010-05-05 11:58

    Interestingly enough, this airport has a lot of corruption associated with it from the very beginning... when the land was expropriated/purchased about three decades ago by the last evil and corrupt NP government (the PM of the day had his wife buy up a lot of the farmland before anyone else knew about it, so that the govt then had to buy it from her, obviously at a greatly exaggerated price). At the time the land was levelled and had agricultural-drains installed... and then its sat idle, only being used as a practice area for flight training for light aircraft from Virginia Airport. The only good thing about the last govt was that they were careful to hide their corruption, because heads had to roll if it came to be public knowledge- which is definitely not the case without new governance (who seem to get more respect from their followers, the more corrupt they are). My only console is that the idiots who put this govt in power will be the ones who ultimately suffer the most under their selected leaders. Interestingly enough, not too long ago, the Chief Air-traffic Controller in Durban said to me in person that the existing Durban Airport was nowhere even close to its capacity- and that a new airport was the last thing Durban needed.

  • James - 2010-05-05 12:16

    The guvment din't do its homewek. Hau, can't baleev. Varking useless twats, the lot of them. If they can't make a country with as much going for it as SA work they don't stand a chance of making anything work. (As they have proven time and time again)

  • Puh...lease - 2010-05-05 12:20

    WAAAAAAAAAHA HA HA HA... Honesty still aint gonna wash as an excuse. You were warned time and time again but you will bliksem on regardless. The worst of it is that all of this planning and proposed spending will be done without looking back at the mistakes. You will not learn from the past. The ANC is like a kid in a candy store. We cannot get an affirmative action appointee to get the idea that you order before you run out. ANC look in the coffers... make sure that more is coming before you spend what is there. We as a country are already going to foreign markets looking for capital and you guys are spending it like there is no tomorrow funded by a tax base of less than 20% of the population. I'm so happy that I have a parachute. Just one question, so now will you reopen the old Durban airport? Coega, King Shaka…spend, spend, spend… the backhanders will make your life good while you cripple the country. Rather steal 10% of the reserves than sign contracts to get a 10% bonsella then you wont leave us in debt.

  • JR - 2010-05-05 12:26

    The honesty from Situma about the mess-ups, as well as the information regarding projects in the pipeline, are very refreshing. Well done to him. Other government employees take note!!Perhaps Situma should be considered for our next president?

  • puh...lease - 2010-05-05 12:35

    have you gone soft on the ANC with you moderating? where is my comment?

  • Realist - 2010-05-05 12:37

    So now that hundreds-of-millions of Rands of taxpayer monies have been spent on filling the pockets of the bureaucrats, tenderpreneurs and other thieves, now we have to re-look at this whole project and say that maybe it was not well thought-through... The mind boggles at just how stupid the government thinks us normal folk are... We know that you are robbing us blind!!!!!

  • pete - 2010-05-05 12:42

    Fishy that coments are not showing

  • Puh...lease - 2010-05-05 12:44

    Next we WILL have a maining tax just watch...

  • Pumezo - 2010-05-05 12:54

    Variuos bodies told us this 8 years ago, but we dont want to listen when the messanger is a white or not ANC. We must stop this stupidness.

  • Ian Samson - 2010-05-05 12:55

    Can no government do anything properly? King Shaka IA has been in development for more than 40 years, and only now that the airport is functioning does the government wake up to the fact that transport to and from the airport is lacking? Top of the Class DUH!

  • Joe - 2010-05-05 13:02

    Well, what did you expect from a bunch of idiots that can't see further than their own noses w.r.t. planning ahead? The airport balls-up is not a mistake, it's a symptom.

  • Sick and Tired - 2010-05-05 13:33

    Once the government stops taking as much as they can for themselves, discipline their youth wing, and stop worrying about petty things like name changes, then they can focus on the important things of running a country and spend money on the right things. Transport, power generation, education. It's not that there's no money in the country for what we need, its just got to be apportioned to the correct places rather than the coffers of an elite few who have become greedy. Power is nice isn't it!

  • henk - 2010-05-05 13:34

    LOL!!! oversight

  • Nxuba - 2010-05-05 13:37

    This is nonsense and this govt is crazy. These guys are wasting our money and yet nothing happens to them. It is high time that all the citizens of this country come together and speak in one voice. We need a sober minded, corrupt free and an effective govt. Gatvol

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