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Sanral: E-tags compulsory

2012-04-03 07:50

Johannesburg - The SA National Roads Association Limited (Sanral) is attempting to legally force motorists to buy an e-tag or have their driving licences taken away, according to a report on Tuesday.

Draft changes to the National Roads Act Regulations were submitted to a few parties late last week with a request that comment be received within 20 days of publication, The Star newspaper reported.

If instituted, it would give "peace officers" the power to stop cars and demand to see a driver's licence and to produce any other tag or document they were required to have.

"By implementing e-tolling and the proposed regulations through the Criminal Procedures Act, the government is promoting a very aggressive approach and tense relationship with its citizens," said Wayne Duvenage from the SA Vehicle Rental Leasing Association.

*Sanral later issued a clarification here.

 

Comments
  • brianmacza - 2012-04-03 07:56

    Enter DA, stage left. The courts are going to be quite full with this one I think

      wesley.gouws - 2012-04-03 08:25

      DONT NOT BUY A ETAG!

      Citizen - 2012-04-03 08:25

      over my dead and rotting corpse will you get me to register, send me the bills i will use them for wallpaper

      Robert - 2012-04-03 08:50

      Quick Question. How are the other provinces going to pay including countries of our borders. I am still not clear on that.

      Thando - 2012-04-03 09:07

      Nazir Ali is a traitor to our nation !!!! He has sold us out to the Austrians who are now licking their lips !!!! In the old days he would be hung for treason !!!

      Press - 2012-04-03 10:15

      C'mon DA - you cant sit on the fence on the issue of urban toll roads . . . .

      ludlowdj - 2012-04-03 10:18

      Don't be to sure, the DA has tolling dreams of its own, Chapmans Peak being just one of their pet projects.

      Malcolm - 2012-04-03 10:32

      @ludlowdj - If that is the case then why did the DA sue and win; to have the new toll roads through somerset/stellenbosch and what not stopped? Why have they proclaimed no new toll roads in the province? Could it be that your mouth is moving but nothing is actually working upstairs? Yes I think it could.

      Alan - 2012-04-03 10:33

      WELL - Somebody objected to my comment which is the truth!Sadly, NEWS24 deleted the comment!!! My mother phoned the AA to enquire if it is compulsory to get an Etag. The AA advised her NOT to do anything until the Court Case (Scheduled for 24/25 Apr?) has been heard. This is the TRUTH, so whoever it was that reported my coment - UP YOURS!!!

      Greg - 2012-04-03 11:12

      Fill the freeways with bicycles. Vehicles only when necessary. Or dedicated lanes for bicycles.

      Andrew - 2012-04-03 12:13

      The DA did try and toll Chappies. They are squeaky clean in this tolling debarcle

      James - 2012-04-03 12:14

      i will never eva buy a etag

      Spyker - 2012-04-03 12:44

      @Thando.., The issue is not the 'Austrians' - it the government's pension fund. It the regime does not get the toll-money, the fund will go bankrupted - millions of those who part of the ANC's parasitic 'jobs-for-votes' program would lose billions. We have in waiting the biggest revolution this country has EVER seen - the "Struggle" will look like a fancy-dress-party...

      Eduard - 2012-04-03 18:25

      Is SA a democracy or not? If so, we, the tax paying motorists vote to go and fly a kite for these toll roads

      Eduard - 2012-04-03 18:27

      I dont understand why our very ANC government goes for the Austrian connection, when we could have picked a South African company??? Might be the corruption? I am lost....

  • Fanie - 2012-04-03 07:56

    This is massively unconstitutional

      Don.Tandy - 2012-04-03 08:10

      Being massively unconstitutional has never stopped the ANCorruption before, so why should we expect anything different now.

      clinton.bowden1 - 2012-04-03 09:07

      DON'T BUY E-TAGS !!

      robbie.crouch - 2012-04-03 09:10

      So is the fact that SARS has your bank details and that you have to have a bank account to have your salary paid into it instead of getting cash in an envelope. Big Brother has crept in without us even batting an eye!

      Press - 2012-04-03 09:44

      OK - so the operator will need to appoint private legal firms en masse to do their dirty legal work for them - anyone out there with the knowledge and ability to start and operate a website that can generate and maintain an updated lists of such sell-out firms so that we, the milked and unconsulted citizenry, can take our legal bussiness elsewhere ?????? All we want is a blogging facility where we can name the legal firms who involves themselves in this unresolved issue based on the personal encounters of all of us - let there be consequences . .

      Johnathon - 2012-04-03 10:09

      Pathetic, balls to the wall, SANRAL e-tag registration forms inserted in Sunday Times this week. Stand together SA. IMMEDIATELY bin all illegal E-TAG application forms. I became desperate when I heard of 6 Billion paid by Gauteng Government for funeral of 2 complete unknowns. I asked myself, how can we bring this Government to be accountable to the people of SA. I suggested following our black brothers, and stop paying anything. I.e. No Municipal Rates and taxes, no electricity, no water, no income tax, no vehicle license fees. Ask for legal referendum for vote of no confidence in Zuma and all of his self serving, totally corrupt, tenderneurship scamming, tax thieving ministers. Only resume payment once Zuma and his cronies removed from office. They have come close to bankrupting the country, and probably will if left in office. This e-tag saga is manna from heaven. At last a magnificent chance to show Government that all tax payers have now completely had enough of this incompetent Government, which would be kicked out by any other civilized Democracy in the World, before the sun sets on that day. Bring SANRAL and Government to its knees. No E-TAG purchase ever. Obviously none have been bought yet, and SANRAL is staring defeat in the jaws. Churchill’s historic speech "We will fight them in the air, on the beaches, in every town and field. n. We will never ever surrender or give up the fight, against the world’s most evil dictator.

      Sharon - 2012-04-03 10:40

      @ Johnathon - I saw them for sale at Checkers - in the same format as prepaid sim cards. I assume that is what it was - honestly didn't give it much attention!

      Ashley - 2012-04-03 11:15

      Oh by the way, we will also be paying for the government ministers etc. toll bills on top of our e-tags. I ain't buying no e-tag chaps. This is going to be one monumental disaster. The police will be utilised for road checks, the courts will be filled....oh dear.

      Johnathon - 2012-04-03 12:33

      Sorry Guys, bit of finger typing error in comment "Pathetic Balls to the Wall SANRAL" Funeral costs spent by Gauteng Government for funeral of two complete unknowns was 6 million, not 6 billion as stated. Only funeral costs State should ever be allowed to cover with tax payer’s money, is the funeral of a past or residing President should he pass away. Where in the world are State Funerals of 3 million rand each given to complete unknowns. When the DA queried these costs, the ANC told them not to interfere, as these costs had already been included in the National Budget. What the hell, who gives the ANC the right to ever budget for these costs, when millions of people are without work, and struggle to feed themselves. Are we in for billions as Politicians start passing away at regular intervals. Each Politician should provide for his own funeral policy, like the rest of the country has to do. Do you think Anglo American or BHP Billiton Senior employees each are given the privilege of a 3 million rand funeral. Just who the hell do the ANC think they are? They continue spending the tax payer’s money completely irresponsibly, as the country’s population are never prepared to take them on in court. All we do is just complain. How many stealing, corrupt Government Politicians or Mangers are presently serving time in jail. One at the last count. Mr Selebi, previous head of the prestigious National Interpol Agency. What a humiliation for the country.

      Andrew - 2012-04-03 12:59

      Will these idiots never learn, you cannot make laws that cannot be policed. Who will be compelled to purchase E-Tags, the whole of GP, even if they never use the toll roads. Will people staying in the vicinity of tolls have to purchase tags and who will determine this? Please SANRAL get a life and to the Transport Minister and your cronies catch a wake up and listen to the driving public.

      George - 2012-04-03 19:32

      The constitution must be respected, least of all by government. It is what gives hope to South Africans. To see it ignored is massively disheartening for the silent majority.

      Johnathon - 2012-04-03 20:19

      Believe me, for SANRAL now trying to resort to hiring uneducated, untrained, down and out thugs of the street, and give them the powers of stopping you. search and seizure of what they feel from your car, is the sign of a very desperate organization, on the brink of collapse. Just say these thugs are recently released murderers , rapists, armed robbers, out and out criminals using forged ID Documents. First of all never ever stop for anyone but Metro Police of SAP. secondly, if any of these hired thugs ever approaches your car, mace him really good in the face. Obviously no e-tags whatsoever are being bought, and SANRAL has become criminally reckless. Keep up the pressure citizens; the end for SANRAL is just around the corner.

      Rational100 - 2012-04-03 20:40

      Best way to stop e-tag wud b to drive onto the toll road enmasse and simply park there for a few hours a day until someone in charge takes notice of the public anger...

  • kamal.naran - 2012-04-03 07:57

    ok so let them take away all of our drivers license and then nobody will be able to get to work. makes complete sense sanral!!!

      clinton.bowden1 - 2012-04-03 09:07

      DON'T BUY E-TAGS !!

      karen.zyl - 2012-04-03 17:27

      Ha Ha Ha. Good one!! I think so too.

      karen.zyl - 2012-04-03 17:28

      And..... no cars, no money Sanral.

      SaintBruce - 2012-04-03 19:59

      I was able to have a look at the R252 Notice of the draft amendment and it is true that SANRAL's CEO is being given the authority to appoint staff members as 'peace officers' with the same powers as SAPS, Metro Police and any other law enforcement agencies. STAFF !! This means that a Limited Company, is now backed by law to have their own police force and the amendment says they can act on ANY road, not limited to the SANRAL managed toll roads!! I also object to the power to confiscate your documents including your driver's licence which will strand you on the road side immediately. This king of sweeping power is so open to abuse that corruption becomes inevitable. They don't seem to be bound by AARTO either. This Bill has to be stopped. The whole eToll system has to be stopped. Don't buy an eTag Don't use the eToll roads after May 1st Don't block the roads - gives these 'new' cops power to go at you Starve SANRAL of their 'guaranteed' income! We have just been whacked with a huge petrol price increase of nearly 70 c per litre. How far does a litre take you - 10 km ? Now how much does SANRAL want to add to that cost per KM? 40 c Do the Math - 40 c per KM adds R 4 per litre to your journey's cost! People are freaking out at this 70 c / litre increase so what happens when the real cost leaps up by an effective R 4.00 per litre???? REVOLUTION maybe?

      Bluemast - 2012-04-03 20:54

      And as a result there will be loads of space on all the highways for the " Blue-light Brigades" to race as much as they like! They can use it as an Autobaan if they wish! :-)

      Johnathon - 2012-04-03 21:07

      Imagine Comical Ali calling his hired thugs "Peace Officers" What peace are they ever going to bring to Gauteng’s overtaxed motorists.

  • B - 2012-04-03 08:00

    So even if you do not use the e-road you still have to have a tag so that they could deduct monies like they did in Dec'11?

      Jacky - 2012-04-03 08:05

      That is my concern too, I never use the toll roads, except once a year when I go on holiday, so why must I have an E-tag?

      Alan - 2012-04-03 09:12

      Everybody is goint to get scr*wed by the E-Tolls if they are allowed to go ahead. The cost of living is going to afect every single person in the country (excl Govt and Cosatu).

      Marcelle - 2012-04-03 10:24

      I have avoided acquiring any knowledge regarding the operation of the e-tag system. Last time I was on the freeway was 6 months ago. My daily route to work, school and home does not require me to use the e-roads. Am I right that I have to pay R50 or thereabouts for the e-tag? Why should I, even as a road user, and assuming that I am willing to pay the toll fees, pay R50 for an e-tag that Sanral wants to force on me? they can go to h....

      Marcelle - 2012-04-03 10:45

      So my lack of knowledge was embarrassing. I suggest you all visit the Sanral website - perhaps we can all send them our queries? I for one, now that I know that I DO have to pay 50 bucks for the e-tag, want to know whether I also have to pay the R50 initial registration fee, (in addition to the cost of the e-tag) for the road I never use ....?

      i.see.a.cupcake - 2012-04-03 12:18

      and whats to stop them from increasing the cap in 6months?

      karen.zyl - 2012-04-03 17:30

      Marcelle - Unbelievable thanks for the info.

  • Piet - 2012-04-03 08:02

    Well then we will just drive around without them. We will then not buy license disk an the whole tax system that charges motorists will colapse! nice to dream....

      karen.zyl - 2012-04-03 17:31

      Great thinking...

  • Matt - 2012-04-03 08:03

    Oh Please, And how do they expect to enforce this. . . Just another reason to make the JHB metro officers wealthier with bribe money ! ! ! !

      IcemanGP - 2012-04-03 08:12

      Well if you bribe them, thats your fault.

      Matt - 2012-04-03 08:19

      No, seriously Iceman, the Metro cops will love this idea . . . I have not, and never will bribe one of those bastards . . ! ! !

      IcemanGP - 2012-04-03 09:52

      Good on you Matt, as seems the only other work Metro knows is sitting on their FAT B-hinds behind a bush with a camera.

  • Herman - 2012-04-03 08:03

    Typical communist tactics, soon people will start going missing under this criminal and incompetent anc regime

      Ishmael - 2012-04-03 08:46

      It is already happening in mpumalanga!

      jeremy002 - 2012-04-04 07:53

      Ishmael, do tell us more....

  • Andre - 2012-04-03 08:03

    Are these guys grabbing at straws here? The Idiotic Goverment arranged for the international companies to set this up and to blatantly take 60% costing of this whole project! South Africa is completely compitent enough to have done this by ourselves, but being spineless, it's always better to 'get someone else' to do the bloody word. Goverment, YOU made that bed! Now YOU sleep in it. Good luck trying to get this circus act going! Bleh..

      Martin - 2012-04-03 08:07

      this is the move of desparate men, we are winning

      Anthony - 2012-04-03 08:25

      If SA companies set it up, the cronies would not have been able to hide the kickbacks.

      Alan - 2012-04-03 08:56

      The kickbacks are coming out one by one anyway. Even Cosatu got caught out - so now they have gone quiet~!

  • Don.Tandy - 2012-04-03 08:04

    More scare tactics, trying to get an unworkable system to at least bring in some coffers. Compound the problem with yet another farcical ruling? Will this mean every motorist in South Africa, or just Gauteng residents, or just Jo'Burg or Pretoria residents have to buy one. Sounds like yet another crooked system that will enable these comical metro cops to fill their pockets.

      robbie.crouch - 2012-04-03 09:14

      It will have to apply to ALL of South African drivers, not just Gauteng. Road legislation cannot be selective otherwise it is discriminatory in nature... oh I forgot we already have that in BEE.

      skootzie - 2012-04-03 11:25

      Easy fix: everyone (residents and businesses) just move out of Gauteng. Ok, not that easy, but still a happy little daydream - Newspaper headlines: "Guateng: A Ghost Town!"

      wo0two0t - 2012-04-03 13:59

      Who knows why anyone would want to live in such a dog of a city. This is from someone who was born there.

  • Frank - 2012-04-03 08:04

    Highway robbery!!!

      Roger - 2012-04-03 09:41

      Come back Dick Turpin all is forgiven

      Alan - 2012-04-03 11:54

      whaahhaa - Dick is already back (and working for SANRAL)

  • Ridwan - 2012-04-03 08:05

    Well Done SANRAL! Keep it up and you will soon be encouraging huge acts of civil disobedience !

      Martin - 2012-04-03 08:14

      buy gas masks now, we riot like the greeks, the police run from us ...on fire

  • Ishmael - 2012-04-03 08:05

    This useless government is taking it too far. when it comes to grabbing money from us, they act to quick, but service delivery to it's citizens is a nightmare. I think a confrontation will be a better option for us. Cosatu, put ur holigans on the freeway and let them destroy those cameras. I can personally give u a bells for that this time around.

  • Albert - 2012-04-03 08:07

    There is an Afrikaans saying "Benoude katte maak wilde spronge" Translated; "Anxious cats make wild leaps."

  • Suraj - 2012-04-03 08:08

    This proves that SANRAL is very concerned that people are not buying the tags and that people are against this sickness of milking the working class.

  • IcemanGP - 2012-04-03 08:11

    Yeah rite, well let the citizens jus refuse to pay taxes then. Call this a democracy, more like Orwells 1984.

  • CharlesDumbwin - 2012-04-03 08:11

    The ruling regime takes from the poor and gives back to their elite. It's Robin Hood in reverse. Shocking ANC !!!

  • Suraj - 2012-04-03 08:12

    This proves that SANRAL is extremely concerned that the working class people are refusing to buy the tags. We need to find an antibiotic to cure the this sickness of milking the working class and funding the lavish lives of others.

  • jacques.koorts - 2012-04-03 08:15

    mafia approach much?

  • Jayson - 2012-04-03 08:15

    So, within the next year or two. When 80% of the high way users licenses have been revoked. And no one is using this road. Who are they going to steal from then??? Duh!!

  • Grahame - 2012-04-03 08:18

    According to some sources the ANC has 81% stake in the SANRAL. But we do not have a corrupt government. Me thinks someone is a bit blind don’t you?

  • lawsondirkie - 2012-04-03 08:20

    these poeple shuld wake up where are we going to find money? I am a student, I will be forced to sell my body...

      Alan - 2012-04-03 08:59

      ah well Lawson - the Govt. has already sold your soul.....

  • Kurt - 2012-04-03 08:20

    Petrol increases, electricity increases. Now they want to force people to pay for roads that is not done? Is SANRAL a private company? if so why are we still paying levies on the petrol and diesel? So much for democracy.....

  • Warwick - 2012-04-03 08:21

    Listen here sanral and Nazi ali- you clowns don't scare me..............I've been married. I will never let you twits steal what is mine - up yer bums.

      Marion - 2012-04-03 10:28

      LOL...

  • Eric - 2012-04-03 08:22

    Is it time South Africans taught these morons who the country really belongs to??

  • marcus.motek - 2012-04-03 08:23

    Nothing but hassels. I accidentally assigned my previous cars registrationnumber to the e-tag. These clowns are not able to reverse and amend it, I now am expected to obtain a new e-tag. Who has the time? Bunch of idiots!

      wesley.gouws - 2012-04-03 08:26

      Why did you buy one in the first place?

      clinton.bowden1 - 2012-04-03 08:39

      Chop !!

      Michele - 2012-04-03 08:49

      Marcus you are a moron, thanks for standing by us and not buying an e-tag.

      AmuseMePLs - 2012-04-03 08:50

      it serves you right to buy the tag and support them. there is no way im going to buy that stupid tag. and believe me i am going to use ther highway.

      Simon.J.Thompson - 2012-04-03 09:21

      So you're the guy who's bought an e-tag !! Your money must be getting very lonely in their till !!!!

      Konstabel - 2012-04-03 09:24

      You bought an e-Tag??? What is wrong with you??? I hope you also signed a debit order so they can have free access to your bank account.

      Zing - 2012-04-03 10:08

      What a kumquat! If I had an e-tag I would amend it with a 6 pound hammer.

      Marcelle - 2012-04-03 10:16

      Sorry to say this, but ACCIDENTALLY?????? Is that supposed to make you feel better?

      Schmee - 2012-04-03 10:33

      Marcus, if you were looking for support here... forget it!

      thepatrickwinter - 2012-04-03 12:31

      Marcus, whats your registration number, we could all do with it?

      Irene - 2012-04-03 12:50

      Marcus ~ You bought an e-tag? Why? Are you mad?

  • Judith - 2012-04-03 08:25

    Is this the action which truly makes the "worms" turn? They are behaving like dictators and still have not explained properly how the tolls will work. The arrogance of SANRAL and the government is beyond belief.

  • Sunette - 2012-04-03 08:26

    I Will NOT register and I don't give a damn if you take my license! I won't be the only one driving around without it! This Government has stolen enough from its taxpayers! NO MORE!

  • Paul - 2012-04-03 08:27

    And why should you have a tag when you live in Cape Town and only travel the Gauteng toll highways occasionally?

  • Tsietsi - 2012-04-03 08:28

    I'm disappointed in myself that I undermined the level of stupidity of these people, because legally, this is not permissible. Is this gonna be a JHB and PTA by-law or what? Hey guys did you hear that Cosatu's investment arm, Kopano Kematla, has shares in the construction company that built one of the highways that are being tolled? Vavi's silence is deafening.

  • Kevin - 2012-04-03 08:28

    Can anyone who doesn't use toll roads be forced to buy an e-tag? Can any law be legal that benefits the commercial interests of a monopoly company? Will our judiciary allow this to happen?

  • thomas.robbertse - 2012-04-03 08:29

    ....suspending your drivers license, your TV license, your passport, and ID,..... What next??

  • darryl.maze1 - 2012-04-03 08:33

    What pisses me off is that we as law abiding citizens who pay taxes, who pay for electricity, who pay our rates, pay for our car licences and drivers licences have now gotta be forced into this e-tolling system. But yet the most dangerous, unroadworthy industry, dont have proper licences, dont even pay motor licences, kills more ppl on the roads "The Taxi Industry" get let off. WTF!! It wont bother our corrupt government officials cause they will just use tax payers money to pay. SANRAL its pathetic and you are a disgrace, but guess you have your on the gravy train with the rest of this corrupt government. You cant not force this onto law abiding citizens, this is a democratic country not a communist country.

      mpwronski - 2012-04-03 10:51

      Its simple - the taxi industry comprises their voter base who they need to keep happy. The people who can afford cars and travel are the DA voters, who they want to milk

      Alan - 2012-04-03 11:28

      @mpw - but everybody gets 'milked' by this unjust scheme - especially the poor!

      Reehaz - 2012-04-03 15:52

      @mpw you think the cost of food will stay the same with this modern way of stealing from people that actually contribute to this country???????

  • Hendrik - 2012-04-03 08:35

    Spokes person for the ministry of transport : maistryl@dot.gov.za Private secretary to the minister : Nazley@dot.gov.za

  • Henry - 2012-04-03 08:35

    If the anc thought the whole process through they should have known there will be big problems. But this was easy money to be stolen by the anc and give most away to their friends in Sweden. But they are part of the illuminaty to take everything away from people for themselves. This is done in order for one global government to take over the world. Nobody except the chosen few will have something.

  • Sean - 2012-04-03 08:35

    I work from home and do not travel on toll roads. Why do I need an e-tag? So that SANRAL can fleece me for a monthly admin fee. You can go to Hell.

      Samantha - 2012-04-03 12:09

      I hear you. But look at the bigger picture - why should ANYONE have to pay these exorbitant fees? Let's stick together as a collective (countrywide), not as individuals!

  • Bandile - 2012-04-03 08:35

    Chancellor house has a bigger finger in this pie than they will ever admit. Bunch of corrupt ANC crooks. EFF e-tags and eff this whole effed up African government.

      Alan - 2012-04-03 09:04

      more like both Hands in the pie!

      Johnathon - 2012-04-03 10:54

      Motorists, never ever show your drivers license while using a e-toll road. Say you have forgotten it at home. They can only fine you for not ahving your driving license with you. Throw fine away anyhow, and never ever pay. 2 Million outstanding fines can become an Admin nightmare. A fine is far better than letting SANRALS hired criminals get their hands on your drivers licence.

  • clinton.bowden1 - 2012-04-03 08:35

    If you look at this all it is saying is if no one gets etags, then public boycott and protests are working. Bottom line is DON'T GET AN E-TAG.

  • Paul - 2012-04-03 08:37

    Actually, this can be enforced very easily by government. They can print the vehicle license disk on the e-tag. So if you want to renew your license, then you must get an e-tag. No matter how you look at this, government is going to get their money. Sad, but true.

      Martin - 2012-04-03 08:50

      drive less, we are not lazy people, walk, ride bikes etc, just around the areas you live, like we all did as kids, they lose out on the petrol levy too then, its gonna be harsh but it will benefit the health of gp too lol.

      Alan - 2012-04-03 09:05

      Grow a pair , Boet! If there is enough oposition, the Govt wil HAVE TO back down and come clean.

      Johnathon - 2012-04-03 09:32

      Paul.I see you have buckled to their threats.I knew it was inevitable they would legislate that you buy e-tags. They have their backs to the wall.Have invested so much in this abortion that they simply cannot allow this to not go through.All contracts signed with Austrians,Toll road maintenance contractors, huge Admin Staff, spent billions on Toll Gantries with expensive cameras, light, transmitters, computer co-ordination systems, a pull out now, is going to cost them billions in penalties. Remember Amin 40c in the Rand. Also 17 billion in State Pension Fund will come back and bite the Government. Also all bribes paid and COSATU stands to make huge financial gains. We now have Government and SANRAL by the balls. Ignore all legal threats and never ever buy e-tolls. Driver license confiscation totally illegal and will never pass our courts. Remember my previous comments, whole SANRAL E-TAG scam against National Credit Act. Government now rues the day Credit Act was put into force. If Country stands together, they cannot criminally charge, or remove licenses, from countries most lucrative tax base.NO - E TAGS. Scheme in Deep distress, and also frantic, desperate, crippled organisers. Stand together for 1st time during ANC's corrupt rule. Show them who actually rules this country. Use 67 bil from fuel levy.Gauteng Govt paid 6M for 2 funerals of complete unknowns. OFS municipal manager 1M salary when 92% of revenue outstanding. Tswana municipality bought 42 top of range BMW'S

      Alan - 2012-04-03 09:41

      @Johnathon - Amen!

      Schmee - 2012-04-03 10:41

      @Johnathon, I was wondering whether the National Credit act or Consumer Protection act doesn't protect us from this. Can you briefly educate us on which way it is against the Nation Credit act.

      Rob - 2012-04-03 11:12

      @johnathan do you have an understanding of the mechanics of the etag or reading system? Can you explain how it works?

      Rational100 - 2012-04-03 20:49

      Ok then....can someone buy me an e-car??

      hein.huyser - 2012-04-04 06:34

      Then I don't renew my licence

  • Roy - 2012-04-03 08:38

    Please let's just get rid of this corrupt government, I can't believe they want to force you to buy the tag. It's like being raped and the rapist force you to undress him first.

      Johnathon - 2012-04-03 11:31

      Schmee, one of my work associates wife, has been involved with the whole issue, and huge committee meetings are being held at present, to try and sort out the fact that e-tagging is against the National Credit Act. Probably only way to resolve this issue will be to change the legislation of the Act. In this Act it is clearly states that no citizen of this country can sign a debit order for deductions from his salary for i.e. Hire Purchase for cars, TV's Furniture, House Bond, Bank Loans etc, until his full financial situation has been assessed. The consumer must supply the credit lender with a full breakdown of his monthly salary and present expenses, and what money is left for servicing the debt he wants to take out. If he does not have excess funds available, then no credit will be allowed to be issued in terms of the Act. Housing market and Car Finance market all but collapsed, because applicant cannot match strict requirements of the ACT. An e-tag is an irrevocable debit order with SANRAL to deduct its toll fees from your credit card or bank account, no matter in how much financial s**t you may be in. Say you can no longer by food, pay rent, pay existing HP's. finance your kids education, SANRALS debt comes first, if you have been foolish enough to fall for the e-tag scam. As clearly evident from the above, SANRALS forced e-tag legislation is completely against the National Credit Act, which SANRAL is so desperate to now change.

  • Pieter Erasmus - 2012-04-03 08:39

    talking will never cure this cancer, its time to take action.

  • Connie - 2012-04-03 08:41

    this government is declaring a civil war..they use the state cars and they know their e-toll bills are going to be paid with our taxes..one solution to this "hire criminals to bomb these gantries down!

      Zing - 2012-04-03 10:25

      Unfortunately the criminals are collecting your tolls :(

  • James - 2012-04-03 08:42

    And to think that its called a "Freeway". Time to get violently aggressive. Charges of assault against any so called Peace officer for even stopping you, theft might also come into this. Making it illegal to travel on our own freeways if we don't have a tag???? There are no swearwords fitting to describe this atrocity!

  • Jacqueline - 2012-04-03 08:43

    Just after Rigel on the N1 you have a tollgate, then only again after John Vorster. I get off at Louis Botha. How do they calculate this? This means I pay the same fee as the guys going off at John Vorster which is a k further. Surely because we all pay fuel levies this should allow us a certain number of free kilometres per month? I will not get an e-tag. I enjoy a bit of foreplay before I get screwed

  • Louis - 2012-04-03 08:44

    This is the way of the DICTATOR! I expect this from Robert Mugabe and is absolutely a disgrace that they can even think of doing this!

      Reehaz - 2012-04-03 16:02

      RSA going to be like Zim in a few years be prepared

  • jacomal - 2012-04-03 08:45

    Because the overhead camera system is not working, it is not reading the number plates, if you dot have a tag they cannot bill you !

  • Daniel - 2012-04-03 08:46

    forget sanral and all the debate. the anc's thievery wont stop until the majority votes them out and then we will have to go through another mugabe phase. the anc doesn't give a .... about responsible government for the people while there's loot to be grabbed. In any thinking society they would have been voted out already.

  • Piet - 2012-04-03 08:49

    SANRAL go stuff yourself!!!

  • dewald.galjaard - 2012-04-03 08:49

    drop dead

  • Jason - 2012-04-03 08:50

    They build a road with our money, and are now charging us to use that road, The side effects of this tolling will be massive.

      Alan - 2012-04-03 09:48

      Yeah - people not directly affected dont realize this. Nationally, prices are going to SKYROCKET, causing ore job losses and dissatisfaction. But hey, The Govt Pension Fund and Cosatu will be smiling for a short while.

  • NrGx - 2012-04-03 08:50

    this government are going to far now. Be careful thieves, your are poking a sleeping dog (let sleeping dogs lie). I fear there is only one, maybe two, ways of approaching these despicable people... 1. They are pushing for a civil war 2. Stop paying taxes, what will they do if all citizens and business owners stop paying tax? Every month or so they go one step further to a totalitarian / dictatorship organisation (mob), and do you realise we are letting them get away with murder. Evil prevails when good men do nothing