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Saps spends millions on private security

2011-03-29 12:21

Cape Town - The SA Police Service (Saps) spent R161.5m on private security services in 2009/10, Police Minister Nathi Mthethwa said on Tuesday.

In a written reply to a question in the National Assembly, he said contracts with private security companies were for the provision of security services to perform guard duties at the various Saps premises.

Saps used private security companies for these duties because of the "many advantages", he said.

Among other things, a comparative analysis had shown it was more cost effective to outsource this type of service than to use trained police officials.

This made more trained police officials available to perform operational police duties.

The private security company was contractually bound to replace any employee absent for whatever reasons, such as sick leave or vacation leave.

Further, the administrative burden of arranging guard duties was no longer Saps' responsibility and all personnel matters had to be dealt with by the service provider.

The private security company could also be held responsible should any losses occur, Mthethwa said.

Contracts in this regard were awarded to 48 private security companies.

Comments
  • Nuck Choris - 2011-03-29 12:30

    Is this not very much like a labour broking practise. You know, using temporary outside labour without offering them full time employment? How do you know you are in Africa? The police need private security firms to guard them

      Darter - 2011-03-29 13:22

      Do you see private security vehicles escorting police while on patrol? Stop editing the article that you read, to suit your own beliefs. The police force isnt just about guns. They have other assets such as computers, repair shops, store facilities etc etc. It doesn't make sense you use officers to guard those areas.

      shirley.schoeman - 2011-03-29 13:41

      Yeah, which means that the rest of us a royally screwed, they are supposed to be protecting us. How could they possibly do that if they can't even protect themselves?

      shwynix - 2011-03-29 13:49

      Need to get your facts straight, Minister said, "This made more trained police officials available to perform operational police duties." I'd rather have more police presence on the street where it matters than behind a wall guarding a premises.

      Meanleader - 2011-03-30 15:56

      And his very conrades were ranting large at the very same practice in the private sector . They are actually intent on bringing in new legislation to stop Labour Broking !! Oh and Darter , one of the basic duties of police is to guard .... their stuff or the public's stuff . This sounds like another boetie got a gravy train contract ... Guarding a police station ? easy !

  • bosegoos - 2011-03-29 12:47

    There are thousands of uneducated policeman, who cannot properly write (take statements), cannot drive a vehicle or are otherwise incompetent to perform most police duties. Why can't these people be used to perform security duties. Even the present Commissioner can be used in this regard!

      Agent - 2011-03-29 16:05

      They will fall asleep as they will forget why they are there.

  • GBES - 2011-03-29 12:53

    So now untrained,off the street characters,must guard the police? OMG !Nobody monitors the quality of these guards training AND their crime record.Ask me, I know a lot who is doing this job,in their usual sleepy manner.They cannot even assist when a gangster stole something out of a "secure" housing estate.Their answer normally "I saw nothing,sir".

  • modefan - 2011-03-29 12:53

    Actually all good reasons ... for a change, lol

  • nonduplume - 2011-03-29 12:57

    The $64k question is who are the companies they are using - hopefully it is not that crooked bunhc called BOSSASA!

  • BigMoose - 2011-03-29 13:06

    Next thing the SANDF will be hiring mercenaries to fight their battles for them. It's called "job creation".

      zukile - 2011-03-29 16:28

      it could be worse bigmoose - they could conscript YOU.....rather the mercenaries than me

  • Mr Hobbit - 2011-03-29 13:08

    So the taxpayer pays more than R 161 million per annum, to protect the police from the crooks that the police should be protecting the taxpayer from? Does this practice happen anywhere else in the world? I'm confused... can someone help me out here?

  • FeliciaenFrancoisvanNiekerk - 2011-03-29 13:11

    And then they get robbed? How do you explain that?

  • Sage - 2011-03-29 13:13

    This is amazing, the police can't guard themselves! Here's an idea, why don't we just outsource policing altogether, these morons can't fight their way out of an open paper bag! Unbelievable! Definitely time for change, substantial change!

  • PIET VENTER - 2011-03-29 13:14

    HEHEHE. The security guards are the middle men to get the illigal and police guns to the crooks.

  • ArtGee - 2011-03-29 13:15

    Should go under the heading: ONLY IN SOUTH AFRICA!

  • The Observer - 2011-03-29 13:15

    Hahahahahahahaha. Beautifull. Just in "A manhunt has been launched after three men robbed Libode police station after they disarmed the police officers and locked them in a holding cell." Guess what, the security guards were on strike. hahahahahaha

  • edvermaak - 2011-03-29 13:17

    You all are missing the point of what's really happening. Private firms are used so that the ANC kingpins can make money out of their investments in the secuirty firms through BEE. It's a smart way of theft of our taxes.

  • Nintendo - 2011-03-29 13:18

    fair enough

  • Stuartthom - 2011-03-29 13:20

    use student constables like in the old days or are u too scared u may upset them

  • Gorilla - 2011-03-29 13:22

    "...Among other things, a comparative analysis had shown it was more cost effective to outsource this type of service than to use trained police officials..." Cost has nothing to do with it, it's the skills that the SAPS don't have.

  • Audi - 2011-03-29 13:28

    Really? I hand over my tax money so that they can protect me - which they don't - plus I arrange my own private security to protect my family. Is this not a form of double taxation!!! Get your own money from fiscus in another form and give me back my money that you were supposed to use to protect civilians.

  • U1 - 2011-03-29 13:28

    Are these private companies responsible for any losses? Like fort he missing police firearms? Another article says a police station was robbed and the police locked up. Only in republic of banana.

  • simon - 2011-03-29 13:28

    what about the police that should be manning the station? are they not on guard? Other then having police on duty at a police station what more do you need? I really cant see how this can be justified as there has to be a 24 hour police presence there. Can they not protect themselves? The police are meant to keep all of use safe, if they cant even secure one area that they are permenently present at, what chance is there of that.

  • semaj - 2011-03-29 13:35

    What operational police duties? Sitting around on ample backsides that could not ever hope to catch a criminal who is fleet of foot?

  • Wes - 2011-03-29 13:40

    Is one of the advantages to stop the chops stealing guns etc from the chopshops

  • Stewart Cape Town - 2011-03-29 13:40

    The Police station in Fish Hoek displays the standard Chubb sign it's wall facing the Main Road - cracks me up every time I see it... I wonder if they have panic alarms...

  • Eles - 2011-03-29 13:42

    Oh please they are clearly outsourcing - who is benefiting from the contract? Why is it necessary to guard a police station? You shouldn't need security for a police station - the criminals should be too intimidated to even walk nearby!!

  • Dave - 2011-03-29 13:46

    No doubt senior policemen are members/directors of the 'private' security companies

  • Charl Theron - 2011-03-29 13:52

    LOL the police need protection

  • DeonL - 2011-03-29 13:53

    I don't have a problem with this, as this should lead to more police in the field to combat crime. In the world cup the police guarded stadiums after striking private guards left. Luckily the criminals also watched the soccer and did not take the gap.

  • grey - 2011-03-29 13:53

    It would make sense if the crime rate then actually went down, you know - because of all them extra officers on patrol. But sadly, I guess not...

  • Slapper - 2011-03-29 13:55

    Friends of the ANC Benevolent society, gain contracts again

  • Mr Hobbit - 2011-03-29 14:01

    They will have to get more money, R 161 million is not enough. I mean the Libode police station was robbed today, they were armed robbers, where was security??? This is priceless, the police need security to protect them from the crooks that they should be protecting us from?

  • inigomontoya - 2011-03-29 14:02

    How many police stations have been 'robbed', Nathi? Give us that statistic while you are being so clever and full of answers.

  • ji - 2011-03-29 14:03

    but yet police stations get robbed , how much fraud and corruption is going on here and why has the ANC let the SAP become a pathetic joke ?

  • Bill - 2011-03-29 14:04

    Pathetic

  • amabok - 2011-03-29 14:09

    Sounds reasonable for a change

  • mev - 2011-03-29 14:11

    We pay tax for services. Things like health care, education, roads, police etc. We ALSO pay for things like medical aid, private education, tolls (there is no way we'll get away with not paying anything) and private security companies. What faith should we have in the SAPS if they go and hire private security firms. As far as I'm concerned there is NO reason to pay tax. Pay for a service! If they do not carry out said service they shouldn't get paid. Why should we pay tax and still make a plan privately? I'm sick to death that people just take it and take it. When are people (and yes I'm talking mostly the yellow t-shirters) going to rub the crap out of our eyes and see this? What faith should we have in the SAPS if they go and hire private security firms. As far as I'm concerned there is NO reason to pay tax. Pay for a service! If they do not carry out said service they should't get paid. Why should we pay tax and still make a plan privately?

      Audi - 2011-03-29 15:28

      Give mev a bells!!!!

  • Louis III - 2011-03-29 14:12

    Hey great! Could they take over firearm licensing as well?

  • Virginia - 2011-03-29 14:13

    What do the SAP need security for, they supposed to be the security for the people of this country. Now we know when in trouble do not call a cop call a security firm

  • My News24@24.com - 2011-03-29 14:14

    R161.5m shared through 48 companies = R280K per company per month… Exactly how many Policemen can be hired? The last time they moaned that their salaries are <10K per month, so instead of having an extra 1’344 police officers per month he is lining some of his cronies pockets… Q: How does one spell corruption? A: C_o_r…a bugger it, let’s just call it ANC

  • Grikie - 2011-03-29 14:16

    How on Earth is the police going to protect us from criminals if they can't protect them self? I already pay a lot from security. Sometimes I wonder what we need the police for?

  • bvniekerk - 2011-03-29 14:18

    Why T F do we have a police force. This is one big clown-shop. If you call the cops, they rather send armed response-team. What a disgrace.

  • WiseOwl2 - 2011-03-29 14:28

    ROBBERY - We are being robbed blind by our own police force !!!!!!viva ANC

  • Moglaw - 2011-03-29 14:46

    Why need guards at the police station...? does not make sense! Aren't the people who work at police station suppose to be guards? Just another way of misusing. Pverty mentality is killing our country

      AGENT - 2011-03-29 15:17

      Hey buddy , this country has died long long time ago, it's only the decay thats setting in. No more turning back now......... without a fight.

  • OLIBO - 2011-03-29 14:56

    It is a shame that SAPS has to be protected by private secuirty firms. During apartheid SAP was feared because it was used by the state as an instrument of oppression. In a democracy I thought the police will be respected, and not feared, but that's far from it. With the arrogance of the current Commissioner of Police and incompetence of the Minister, I have no hope.

  • Bacdafucup - 2011-03-29 14:57

    I used to wonder why ex policemen end up starting their own private security companies. I just thought maybe they had this passion for enforcing the law and protecting the nation. After this article it is all making sense. Their SAPS buddies hook them up with contracts to feed and sustain their retirement annuities. Hmmmm....job creation. Hahaha

  • andrepi - 2011-03-29 15:10

    I am a private investigator. Trained by the SAP. Many years of experience, etc. Why dont they hire us to do their investigations...? That will at least change the conviction rate! But now again, we dont give kick-backs, etc.

  • Queuball - 2011-03-29 15:13

    bwa ha ha ha, .... ha ha ha. This is the funniest thing I've heard in a while - Cop shops needing private security firms "TO DO THEIR JOB". No serously now this would be really funny if it was a spoof Schuster movie, but it's not. Would it not make sense and be cheaper to hire more staff, and say as part of their tasks as juniors is to stand guard at these premises as part of their training or initiation when graduating from training.

  • Popit - 2011-03-29 15:21

    "This made more trained police officials available to perform operational police duties." Like what?

  • Queuball - 2011-03-29 15:21

    bwa ha ha ha, .... ha ha ha. This is the funniest thing I've heard in a while - Cop shops needing private security firms "TO DO THEIR JOB". No serously now this would be really funny if it was a spoof Schuster movie, but it's not. Would it not make sense and be cheaper to hire more staff, and say as part of their tasks as juniors is to stand guard at these premises as part of their training or initiation when graduating from training.

  • FRpower - 2011-03-29 16:43

    Next thing security company's will show the police how to protect civilians. This government is full of retards.

  • mustafa.leek - 2011-03-29 16:59

    cant believe you people still live in the hell hole of a country. get out whilst you still can - alive!

  • exocist - 2011-03-29 17:46

    "trained" police for outside work NOW THAT IS A JOKE

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