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Phosa: Taxpayers should fund democracy

2012-06-08 14:25

Pretoria - Taxpayers should help fund political parties in elections, ANC treasurer general Mathews Phosa said on Friday.

"(When) we look at all other democracies, the taxpayer is paying for elections, in support of democracy," Phosa told reporters in Pretoria.

He was briefing the media following a two-day workshop on political party funding attended by African National Congress regional treasurers from across the country.

"South Africa's situation is that not a cent is paid by taxpayers for elections, whether it be national, provincial or local government."

At the moment, political parties have to raise their own funds.

Taxpayer funding of democracy was among recommendations to have come out of the workshop, which looked at four areas which needed to be transformed: the control of private donations; increased public funding; expenditure limits; and the introduction of greater transparency.

Taxpayers' money could be used to conduct research and to train public representatives - such as members of parliament and MECs - as it is done in Germany.

“Now we don't just throw the guys in parliament and have the troubles that we had last week and say, 'oh they are not so effective, they are not so disciplined', you must train them," Phosa said.

The recommendations that came out of the workshop call for urgent reform in political party funding, including greater transparency and caps on certain donations.

Private donations should be capped and declared publicly, should the donor wish it so.

The recommendations from this conference would be debated at the ANC policy conference later this month. Any resolutions taken there would need to be ratified at the party's elective conference in Mangaung in the Free State, in December.

Comments
  • Ken - 2012-06-08 14:34

    We might not pay for the 1 day elections, but we pay through the bloody nose for the next 5 years to pay for the greedy ANC cadres.

      Fred - 2012-06-08 18:03

      What world is Phosa living in? Is he completely brain-dead? The taxpayer funds the entire election process. Oh sorry, I almost missed it .... he wants the taxpayer to put even more money into the back pockets of the corrupt politicians, and put them back in power for another 5 years so they can continue stealing from us. Time for a new ruling party, PLEASE.

      alan.gernet - 2012-08-15 12:56

      What ??? The Gravy Boat run dry?

  • B - 2012-06-08 14:42

    Why, is there not enough to steal anymore?

  • B - 2012-06-08 14:42

    Why, is there not enough to steal anymore?

  • MallyGold - 2012-06-08 14:47

    @ Phosa: “When we look at all other democracies, the government servants do not steal and squander taxpayers money like the ANC does”. No, we will not fund one cent of your elections until you and your government set the example of honesty and integrity and so lead the nation from the front. Once you and your leaders have set and demonstrated the bar of moral high-ground before the people, then you may have the freedom to request that we contribute to the democracy. At present the ANC has lost the mandate to govern for they willingly mire themselves in theft and corruption as easily as we eat breakfast.

  • Jaco - 2012-06-08 14:52

    Why must we pay to keep you bunch of corrupt cANCer elements in power. Don't you think we are paying enough tax to fund your gravy train.

  • Jaco - 2012-06-08 14:53

    Why must we pay to keep you bunch of corrupt cANCer elements in power. Don't you think we are paying enough tax to fund your gravy train.

  • John - 2012-06-08 14:59

    I swear my internet browser has gone all ANC on me..... what nonsense is this? You guys steal enough already and now we must pay you to steal even more? How stupid do you really think we are? Not all of are sheeple!

  • Gerald - 2012-06-08 15:05

    R10 a vote. See who wins.

  • lawrence.beith - 2012-06-08 15:06

    You are a moron Phosa! So you'd rather OUR money be spent on getting the useless and corrupt ANC back into power?

  • mark.haupt.31 - 2012-06-08 15:06

    We're already paying you idiot, where do you think your salary comes from?

  • Richard - 2012-06-08 15:15

    Yes off course we should pay for this. I mean we are already paying for everything else and surely we cannot expect the Government to steal less just to foot the bill for their re-elections so that they can steel some more.

  • TdJ01 - 2012-06-08 15:15

    Hallo Phosa, Let's think now - The ANC shows us accountable governance for just ONE year and then the taxpayer will pay. Yeah sure!!!!! Wonder if the ANC publicly declared the Kebble millions???

  • TdJ01 - 2012-06-08 15:16

    Hallo Phosa, Let's think now - The ANC shows us accountable governance for just ONE year and then the taxpayer will pay. Yeah sure!!!!! Wonder if the ANC publicly declared the Kebble millions???

  • TdJ01 - 2012-06-08 15:16

    Hallo Phosa, Let's think now - The ANC shows us accountable governance for just ONE year and then the taxpayer will pay. Yeah sure!!!!! Wonder if the ANC publicly declared the Kebble millions???

  • TdJ01 - 2012-06-08 15:16

    Hallo Phosa, Let's think now - The ANC shows us accountable governance for just ONE year and then the taxpayer will pay. Yeah sure!!!!! Wonder if the ANC publicly declared the Kebble millions???

  • TdJ01 - 2012-06-08 15:16

    Hallo Phosa, Let's think now - The ANC shows us accountable governance for just ONE year and then the taxpayer will pay. Yeah sure!!!!! Wonder if the ANC publicly declared the Kebble millions???

  • TdJ01 - 2012-06-08 15:16

    Hallo Phosa, Let's think now - The ANC shows us accountable governance for just ONE year and then the taxpayer will pay. Yeah sure!!!!! Wonder if the ANC publicly declared the Kebble millions???

  • TdJ01 - 2012-06-08 15:16

    Hallo Phosa, Let's think now - The ANC shows us accountable governance for just ONE year and then the taxpayer will pay. Yeah sure!!!!! Wonder if the ANC publicly declared the Kebble millions???

  • brendon.titus - 2012-06-08 15:19

    Why must the tax payers pay for elections?We work for what we want

  • judith.taylor.56 - 2012-06-08 15:21

    The German and other taxpayers get a lot more back from their governments than we do here. Our taxes are extremely high when we look at what we get for them. Sorry Mr Phosa, if generating funds is too much like hard work for political parties, then they had better close themselves down

  • judith.taylor.56 - 2012-06-08 15:22

    The German and other taxpayers get a lot more back from their governments than we do here. Our taxes are extremely high when we look at what we get for them. Sorry Mr Phosa, if generating funds is too much like hard work for political parties, then they had better close themselves down

  • Richard - 2012-06-08 15:24

    Yes off course we should pay for this. I mean we are already paying for everything else and surely we cannot expect the Government to steal less just to foot the bill for their re-elections so that they can steel some more.

  • freddy.vanwijk - 2012-06-08 15:26

    Why must taxpayers fund democracy when it is contaminated beyond any hope with corruption? Isn't there enough funding? Taxpayers are already in recession and the "corrupted" wants more. Make do with less.

  • Tommy - 2012-06-08 15:41

    Go ask your comrades of yesterday - Let's see, Cuba, North Korea, Venezuela, China....wait what's that, they don't want to support democracy. Surprise surprise.

  • Tommy - 2012-06-08 15:41

    Go ask your comrades of yesterday - Let's see, Cuba, North Korea, Venezuela, China....wait what's that, they don't want to support democracy. Surprise surprise.

  • mark.haupt.31 - 2012-06-08 15:46

    My dear Mr Phosa, please do not insult our intelligence by comparing your government of thieving crooks with Germany, a 1st world nation where people work for a living and don't burn, loot and pillage every time they're unhappy. If you and your fellow scroungers can't fund the ANC then close it down because I'm tired of funding you, your wives and children who do absolutely nothing of any value for this country. Have you thought of selling something, like your soul?

  • hc12345 - 2012-06-08 15:51

    That is if you have a democracy!! Africa democracy..one man one vote once..and if the elected sees that they are going to loose the election they do what Mugabe did...

  • hc12345 - 2012-06-08 15:51

    That is if you have a democracy!! Africa democracy..one man one vote once..and if the elected sees that they are going to loose the election they do what Mugabe did...

  • hc12345 - 2012-06-08 15:51

    That is if you have a democracy!! Africa democracy..one man one vote once..and if the elected sees that they are going to loose the election they do what Mugabe did...

  • manningi1 - 2012-06-08 15:59

    I think it's a good idea as long as the taxpayer can choose who his/her money goes to. The DA would get most of it.

  • george.michaelides.71 - 2012-06-08 16:03

    Hey Pooza...its Friday not Thursday.........lay off the juice,,,she is not good.....chop.....

  • george.michaelides.71 - 2012-06-08 16:04

    Hey Pooza...its Friday not Thursday.........lay off the juice,,,she is not good.....chop.....

  • beverley.southern.3 - 2012-06-08 16:19

    Only because the biggest funder of the ANC (Gaddaffi) is no longer around

  • rezo.mosepele - 2012-06-08 16:41

    I thnk b4 taxpayers can contmplatin 4 election. Thy mst 1st hav confdnc on current govt, ryt now taxpayers' money is usd to enrich officials. Bring good, clean governance 1st

  • Cape - 2012-06-08 17:05

    How about tax payers fund those parties that they support? The ANC has for too long benefited from a demographic that does not support them or their ideologies

  • Cape - 2012-06-08 17:05

    How about tax payers fund those parties that they support? The ANC has for too long benefited from a demographic that does not support them or their ideologies

  • Cape - 2012-06-08 17:06

    How about tax payers fund those parties that they support? The ANC has for too long benefited from a demographic that does not support them or their ideologies

  • Cape - 2012-06-08 17:06

    How about tax payers fund those parties that they support? The ANC has for too long benefited from a demographic that does not support them or their ideologies

  • Bok - 2012-06-08 17:09

    News24 should stop publishing this tripe. It stinks of polarization and politicking! Give us some decent news please! The ANC has had enough coverage now!

  • Bok - 2012-06-08 17:09

    News24 should stop publishing this tripe. It stinks of polarization and politicking! Give us some decent news please! The ANC has had enough coverage now!

  • Bok - 2012-06-08 17:09

    News24 should stop publishing this tripe. It stinks of polarization and politicking! Give us some decent news please! The ANC has had enough coverage now!

  • Bok - 2012-06-08 17:09

    News24 should stop publishing this tripe. It stinks of polarization and politicking! Give us some decent news please! The ANC has had enough coverage now!

  • Bok - 2012-06-08 17:10

    News24 should stop publishing this tripe. It stinks of polarization and politicking! Give us some decent news please! The ANC has had enough coverage now!

  • ThaBob - 2012-06-08 17:36

    Djou ma se Phoesa !!!

  • ThaBob - 2012-06-08 17:36

    Djou ma se Phoesa !!!

  • ThaBob - 2012-06-08 17:37

    Djou ma se Phoesa !!!

  • ThaBob - 2012-06-08 17:42

    Hey Phosa, djou ma se Phoesa !

  • grace.andtruth.77 - 2012-06-08 17:54

    F U Phosa, and the ANC... We've funded enough of your fancy homes, luxury cars, extravagant holidays. Try working!

  • schalk.vandermerwe.549 - 2012-06-08 18:07

    He must have eaten his socks!

  • Blixum - 2012-06-08 18:08

    That's right Phosa. You want to lay your soiled little filthy paw on the little that is left after we have paid all your other 60% taxes. Shame on you. You are giving us a reason to once again revolt against your stupid little party that is called a congress(sic) just like we did with e-tolling. You are pushing your luck to the brink.

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