Ndebele orders halt to toll road projects
Johannesburg - Minister of Transport Sibusiso Ndebele has
instructed the South African National Roads Agency Limited (Sanral) to
halt all road project processes related to the tolling of national
He is of the view that consultative processes
should be allowed to offer concerned parties an
opportunity to share their views on the toll road programme.
While he believes the country requires good road
infrastructure to meet its economic growth targets, he said
this should not put a huge financial burden on the shoulders of
He said while the first phase of the Gauteng Freeway
Improvement Plan has delivered good road infrastructure, it was an
expensive exercise that has drawn sharp views from the public.
"All spheres of government should be part of a
consultative process with all affected parties, consumers in the main.
Good infrastructure is a necessity for a better future for our country,
but this requirement must not leave our people even poorer," says Ndebele.
The cabinet recently appointed a task team that includes Ndebele and Minister of Finance Pravin Gordhan to look into the issue of
Ndebele said all these processes, including a
consultative processes initiated by the Gauteng Provincial Legislature,
should be allowed to reach their logical conclusions to ensure that all
parties concerned and their respective views are brought on board.
What's wrong? The minister's cut not big enough?
Should we laugh or cry..?
The fact is, the money has already been spent (in many cases) and will have to be paid - like it or not.
Key matter though, is the following, not the perpetual 'ping-pong' on indecisiveness..,
1. The money to pay for a proper infrastructure already exists - just get rid of the corruption and incompetence. But the ANC is 'crime/corruption/incompetence' - so get rid of the ANC and we will get an infrastructure we can afford... Simple.
2. "...good road infrastructure... ...was an expensive exercise...". Indeed - again, it was expensive due to (the said) 'corruption and incompetence'. So (again), get rid of the ANC and we will get an infrastructure we can afford... Simple.
Why do I get the feeling I am repeating myself..?
"He is of the view that consultative processes should be allowed to take place to offer concerned parties an opportunity to share their views on the toll road programme". This is pointless the structures are already on our roads, so what is the purpose of the consultation? The toll gates which have been already erected will be used. "While he believes that the country requires good road infrastructure to meet its economic growth targets"...More like targets as in the profits gained by the shareholders.
This is great news!!! However here is the bad news. Even if, having eventually been beaten into submission, SANRAL and it's politically connected shareholders decide against going ahead with the planned tolling system, who do think is going to pay for the resultant damages claims from the already contractualy entitled foreign service providers?...Answer: South African taxpayers. ( S'bu and his friends will still retire as wealthy men)
Do whatever the hell you want.
Tolls or no tolls, I'm not paying, so I really don't care.
NDEBELE, YOU ARE DOING SOMETHING RIGHT. I HOPE IT COMES FROM THE BOTTOM OF YOUR HEART AND NOT JUST SOME PLOY TO MAKE US BELIEVE THAT THE ANC IS TRYING TO COVER LOST GROUND.
I would not mind paying toll - but a reasonable amount that does not break the bank each month. So... it will take a bit longer to recoup costs but that way everybody wins.
If the Government did not squander the tax money on Zuma and his wives and houses, corruption , wasteful expenditure, giving tenders to incompetant operators, etc we would have enough money to maitain and develop our roads.
The public must stand up to the government.
There goes the scale downward to the righthand side with Malema in it damaging the economy. Us consumers can pay for the roads but if the economy gone to non working ..... then what do we need roads for mmmmm
we all pay regardless . if we dont pay via tolls the costs will come out of taxes . the only difference is that with tolls the users pay , but otherwise ALL taxpayers pay , even if they dont have the benefit of the roads - eg i live in a small town in the W Cape and will never drive on those roads , so why should i be paying for them
So you feel that you wouldnt be affected if the road infrastructure in Jhb collapsed causing serious loss of growth potential in the country's financial engine?
You may be preparing for death in a retirement village in the Western Cape, but if you have any offspring hoping for some semblance of a future I dont think that they would appreciate your attitude.
Tokoziza, I take it then that also don't eat food transported by vehicles that use those roads, or make use of any other consumer products... If a country's infrastructure fails because of people who think like you, there will be no towns - small or large! I don't travel by train either, but will gladly pay taxes to maintain the railway system for goods to be transported!
Tokoziza. You sound like a dork who is cnANCer member and lives in Gauteng
but you derive the benefit of them sir. Imported good that come in via the airport have to be transported on those roads. Anything manufactured in gauteng (including Cars from Rosslyn in Pretoria) have to transported via road at some point in time. People working at the banks who build the systems that allow ATM's to work, who processes cheques, etc etc all need to travel on those roads to get to work and contribute to the economy thus I believe everyone should contribute to all road infrastructure everywhere
Get ready to buy proper 4x4 vehicles. I have been through in countries in Africa. The extremely bad condition of roads in Angola (Xangongo to Cahama), Mozambique (Chimoio and Tete), Roads in Benin City and the road between Benin City and Lagos is a good example of our future roads. Remember with your so called "resistance" as citizens you were instrumental in asking for thetolling to stop. Die lee blikke soos die hierbo sal heel moontlik de eerste wees was kla en moan as hulle karretjies stukkend gery word in potholes.
Maybe he watched the Gadaffi downfall and the light came on. You can only rape the public for so long before they bite back.
Has the City of Cape Town's impending legal action against SANRAL jerked the minister awake?
SANRAL needs to be investigated. I suspect that there have been tender irregularities in the Gauteng Freeway plan. Virtually the entire left lane from 14th Avenue to Rivonia is collapsing. The contractors were allowed to operate recklessly without proper standards of safety for the roadworkers and without regard for the public's vehicles.
Should they not have thought about the excesive costs on the "shoulders of the consumers" BEFORE they've spent millions on building the toll gates in the first place???
The proposed toll roads are illegal and morally and ethically reprehensible.
One cannot take the only direct means from point A to B and tell pepol "Now Pay". It is an infringement to our right of movement and not far removed from the Pass system except that it is now in economic terms and not the colour of the skin.
SANRAL is free to build a purpose-built high speed road parallel to existing national roads and levy a toll for those that wish the ultra convenience.
Centainly I don't have sympathy for the sorry tale of roads in disrepair. This country was given probably the best road infrastructure in the world and the only reason why there is talk about toll roads is that the responsibles failed in implementing an efficient roads management system.
They should face the music - not the citizens. Actually as citizens we should take to task the incompetence and ineffeciency of the responsible civil servants, starting at the top of course.
Why should we be paying any toll fees to maintain roads every motorist pays every time they fill up petrol a levy on each litre that goes to maintaining roads. This is just a case of government milking us.
so where exactly do the billions that are sucked by force from our salaries in taxes, Vat, rates and taxes, already existing toll gates, etc go to? maybe not enough to maintain some people's many wives and children and "chomies"?... or maybe not enough to keep Juju's mouth shut?
IS THIS A KNEE JERK REACTION BEACUSE THE DA IS CAMPAINING AGAINST THE TOLL SYSTEM!!!
Its easy, tax our petrol and diesel by just 5c extra per liter and its oaid in two years. Why are they insisting we pay toll fees!!!!!!!!!!!
I feel Sbu and his department they think we are very stupid because it s cleare that they want to pocket the money for themself. We have over million cars in Guateng and every car is paying licence registration every year where is the money going to. We also pay levies on petrol which is very high they must just manage our finances right and all the infrastructure will fall into places without us paying more money.
And yet the president "mr Zuma" can award a R400 million "upgrade to his house" and who is the minister who used tax payers money to the tune of millions to visit his wife in jail over seas Sithelo or something? Seriously the corruption in this country is such a joke! If your not in the ANC "elite" you wont get anywhere in life cos then you'll actually have to pay for everything hey? but don't worry we the consumers are cash cows. We are a bottomless pit of money. Money gets used on things that don't matter!! In stead of being a corrupt, soon to be broke state, rather invest the money in building a giant construction plant i.e. spend millions and build a SA own brand, motor plant where we don't have to import anything, but produce everything locally.So many jobs and investors will come, o but wait....that means they must actually work. The tax in SA is already the highest in the world...but lets toll them for some more cash hey. Whats an extra R1000 out of my pocket going to bother them. Yes you in government.
The R30bn that was stolen by government officials could have paid for the toll road with lots of change and with that they could have built houses for the poor and then our hard earned money would have been spend effectively.