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Most managers in SA still white - report

2011-08-03 16:00

Pretoria - Whites still occupy 73.6% of top management positions in the country, the Commission of Employment Equity reported on Wednesday.

According to the commission's 11th annual report that was released in Pretoria, blacks made up 12.7% of top management, while Indians made up 6.8% and coloureds constituted 4.6%.

Labour Minister Mildred Oliphant said she was disappointed at the slow pace of reform at top management.

The CEE's findings are based on 16 698 reports submitted by companies that have 150 or more employees.

Its findings cover 5 280 037 employees. Companies with less than 150 employees were not required to submit reports.

Although whites made up 73.1% of the top management, they only made up 12.1% of the economically active population while blacks made up 73.6% of that population with 12.7% in top management.

In 2006 blacks constituted 11.3% of top management and whites 74.9%.

At a senior management level whites still dominated holding 64.1% of those positions, while blacks occupied 17.6% of senior management positions, coloured 7% and Indians 9%.

The number of whites in senior management positions had dropped 6.8% since 2006, while the number of blacks had increased by 4.2%, Indians by 1.4% and coloureds by 1.2%.

According to the report, top management whites were least dominant in the community/social/personal services sector with whites occupying 52.4% of top management positions, while in comparison in the retail and motor trade sectors whites occupied 81.8% of top management positions.


      



      

Comments
  • Kareltjie Boshoff - 2011-08-03 17:06

    So what?

  • Hangwie - 2011-08-03 17:06

    Does it matter? What is the use of sending this report if nothing is done about it?

  • Kareltjie Boshoff - 2011-08-03 17:07

    I feel sorry for coloureds.

  • NuttyPeanuts - 2011-08-03 17:09

    ...and 100% of bafana bafana is still black.

  • Benzo - 2011-08-03 17:13

    With the current reputation of top management in Government, we might be grateful.

  • Dominic - 2011-08-03 17:14

    It takes time, study, commitment and experience to become a top manager. It will eventually get there. The alternative is to appoint incompetents like Cele to the job. Private enterprise can't afford that kind of maladministration.

  • unclecracker - 2011-08-03 17:15

    skill and experience, not skin colour dictate management capability.

  • skunkworx - 2011-08-03 17:17

    and? so what?

  • Patrick - 2011-08-03 17:18

    I wonder what the percentage is for farmers in SA?

  • John - 2011-08-03 17:19

    This just goes to show how serious and real the skills shortage remains. This after 17 years of lack of progress on this front by the current government. Mildred should have more to say on how to address the skills shortage. Expressing her disappointment is not good enough. Do something.

  • Pikkewyn - 2011-08-03 17:20

    I dont think it is bad. It will get less and less over time and equal out. You have to have the experience to be a manager and you only gain experience over time. No new managerial posts are filled with white people any more so it will equal out over time - do not make a big issue of this because it is not a big issue

      DEVILS SON - 2011-08-04 16:22

      i agree, when i started out in the petro chem industry, my first job was carrying tools for "black" artisans, pushing my knowledge and luck i moved up, 10 yrs later here i sit, project planner. i never studied anything, but i have experience that can blow a newly educated planner right out of the water, hands down, thats why i have my job and these new bee recruits are turned down, and i work for a black owned company.so yeah go and earn it, cary some idiots tools for a year, then do document control for a while, go be a run around on a site, do every little thing that you hate doing earn peanuts for it for yrs and yrs, and then maybe just maybe you will get that position you want free of charge

  • vince muller - 2011-08-03 17:22

    Well, if we look at the alarming BEE (black enrichement equity) companies not performing, costing the tax payer billions of rands it is obvious why. If we got outstanding black managers, let them proove themselves and deserve their position, unlike the government gravy trains. And a so called education is worthless without experience.

  • J_Adoons - 2011-08-03 17:23

    its simple - employ the best person for the job, whether they are black, white or pink !

  • braamc - 2011-08-03 17:25

    Step up to the challenge then

  • RIMRIM - 2011-08-03 17:34

    People need to remember that these companies where funded & founded by whites, Of course a majority of management in a white owned company is going to be white. Only way to build more black management is for blacks to start new business's. There are no boundaries for blacks, if anything it is easier for a black person to start a new business than any other race. Blacks have access to government capital and incentives that whites do not. Africa's biggest problem is the lack of entrepreneurship.

      tryanything - 2011-08-04 04:08

      Plenty of hard working black managers ...............they must do as RimRim says

  • Johan van Zyl - 2011-08-03 17:38

    Education education education.

      John Wilderness - 2011-08-04 03:26

      SPOT ON ! Johan you are so right.

  • Willem-Dirk - 2011-08-03 17:48

    Focus on getting the education right from the start. Get everyone educated and the statistics will sort themselves out.

      John Wilderness - 2011-08-04 03:22

      Shoo ! I was getting worried. Somebody with intellect and vision at last. Willem I cannot agree with you more. No stupid anti-black, anti-african remarks. Just cutting to the chase and stating exactly what SA needs. Thanks for that. SA needs more of you.

      khumbula - 2011-08-04 07:43

      I agree with you 100% Willem, there was no need for all these insults and racist remarks. The report aim is to illustrate that education and training is not getting the required support and financing from coporate business and government to advance affirmitive action. Correcting the past will need all of us to work together as one, if we stay divided we shall fall.

      mcnasty - 2011-08-04 12:19

      ja i watched the news this morning and the story which immediately followed this one was that only 14% of black students are matriculating.but our government isn`t interested in anything other than their wallets.how about building some proper schools ,run properly by qualified teachers,instead of building soccer stadiums and overpriced toll roads?but the very parents who want to see their children succeed will be the same ones to vote the anc in time and again when nothing ever changes...

  • zoombie - 2011-08-03 18:12

    This report refers to the private sector companies but gives the impression that whites still run the country. Far from the truth. The government still has 95% black managers in all sectors.

      Creeky - 2011-08-04 07:08

      Yep.... not very EFFICIENT or EFFECTIVE either....

  • Madelane - 2011-08-03 18:31

    Management is not about cronyism or buying a suit and tie and a luxury car with tinted windows but about years of experience working from the bottom up and then only those with the correct skills are selected. If one looks at the failure in state run enterprises where there is a severe lack of management skills (no shortage of the suits and cars mind you) perhaps the minister should bear this in mind when making short sighted remarks that only inflame expectations to no good end.

  • Marcelo - 2011-08-03 18:50

    Most Government officials in South Africa still black - report. Enough said!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

      John Wilderness - 2011-08-04 03:19

      So what is the difference ? Effciency and corruption has not changed since the days of apartheid. The only thing that changed is the skin colour of the officials and ministers.

      BigD - 2011-08-04 07:01

      @ wilderness. The Nats paid lower than private sector. The only problem with current trend is that the Nats took a slice and the ANC only leave a slice.

  • DoublySalmon - 2011-08-03 21:29

    Blacks make up 73.6% of that population but only a small percentage is employable and a smaller percentage has what it takes to be top management. Only 1 in 6000 black people matriculate with higher grade maths and science therefore we can only expect 1 in 6000 of them to become top management after graduating from varsity and after gaining +-20 to 30 years of experience. How many black people fulfill this criteria? If you consider what it takes to be top management and how many black people have the merit then I bet the Indians and whites are under represented.

      DoublySalmon - 2011-08-04 11:10

      If you don't have what it takes to become a top manager who makes strategic decisions don't blame racism. Due to BEE and EE companies jump at the opportunity to employ capable blacks and even pay premiums for it, the lack of representation is evidence that black people do not have the necessary skills. This doesn't mean they won't once they matriculate, study, work and gain experience but currently the demand for talented black labour is more than the supply, therefore whites have to be employed.

  • jock - 2011-08-03 22:42

    maybe in he private sector but in the Govt.and municipalities where managerial skills are not required it is a different sory for sure

      CaveatEmptor - 2011-08-04 06:39

      Yes blacks dominate Eskom, Telkom, SAA, SAPS, Landbank, SABC and the government and all the senior ANC structures.

      Windu - 2011-08-04 15:00

      @CaveatEmptor. Correct, and all of those institutions are failing dismally with the tax payer having to fork out Billions to subsidize. Unfortunately, the private sector is not blessed with hand outs, so commercial realities dictate that prudence and ability to deliver into the market is key. Survival of the fittest, where the right resources are needed to sustain free market survival. Working for a paristatal is a picnic - what are the pressures? Failure means more subsidy, nothing else.

  • Marwaareed - 2011-08-04 05:40

    The appropriate answer which is of great importance... is absolutely essential education... sential education...

  • knalpot - 2011-08-04 06:32

    EARN IT

  • BigD - 2011-08-04 06:58

    Does this report only mean private sector. If they are talking about public sector then there could be more than 90% of management that are black. So it sort of evens things up. The public sector has failed and the privat sector has to perform to get the needy taxes in to pay this failed public sector. So why destroy the sector that is keeping SA afloat.

      Buzz - 2011-08-04 08:45

      What companies are they looking at to get these figures? This is completely unrealistic and can not be taken seriously. List the companies that you have targeted to get these figures?

  • Jim - 2011-08-04 08:30

    This subject comes up every few months. The answer is get educated, gaining experience and "GET A LIFE ". These positions are earned.

  • shane.jacoby - 2011-08-04 16:09

    Where do they get these figures from?? Does this constitute management from the Public or Private sector? It can only be the Private sector as the Public sector has already been mismanaged. Evidence to reference would be Eskom, SAA, etc... The private sector has the right to employ candidates based on merit and skills rather than equity. If this were the case the private sector would have crashed by now as well. Currently it is the private sector that is keeping the economy afloat. If they get their way with regards to employment equity within the private sector, we can kiss what ever "order" we have left in South Africa. I guess merit and skills just don't matter in South Africa anymore...

  • baudtin1 - 2011-08-05 13:23

    Read the Bell Curve

  • Philani - 2011-08-05 13:55

    “South Africa is a country of two nations. One of these nations is white, relatively prosperous, regardless of gender or geographic dispersal. It has ready access to a developed economic, physical, educational, communication and other infrastructure. This enables it to argue that, except for the persistence of gender discrimination against women; all members of this nation have the possibility to exercise their right to equal opportunity, the development opportunities to which the Constitution of '93 committed our country. The second and larger nation of South Africa is black and poor, with the worst affected being women in the rural areas, the black rural population in general and the disabled. This nation lives under conditions of a grossly underdeveloped economic, physical, educational, communication and other infrastructure. It has virtually no possibility to exercise what in reality amounts to a theoretical right to equal opportunity, with that right being equal within this black nation only to the extent that it is equally incapable of realisation” Dr Thabo Mbeki.

  • Philani - 2011-08-05 13:55

    The gruesome numbers of the Commission of Employment Equity Report are a sad reality about our country. Although the illiberal media keeps on misinforming the public, the sad reality is that our country has failed to transform. Although the conservative white’s parties (DA, FF Plus and Afriforum) are bitter about AA laws, the said reality is that thousands of us (Africans) graduates are unemployed. This is not the first report of CEE, that is painting a bleak picture and it won’t be the last one, we’ve seen similar reports during the tenure of Jimmy Manyi at Labour Department. It is regrettable that Labour Department is not naming and shaming the non compliance companies. Lastly but not list we must salute those few companies who have complied with the laws of our country. Philani Lubanyana@Durban.Umlazi

  • KanaMay - 2011-08-05 14:51

    Why berate the lack of black MANAGERS, when ANC-connected peopole (mainly blacks) can OWN the company and its profits after the competent but not necessarily politically-correct managers (mainly white / Asian) have done their jobs?

  • vmain - 2011-08-18 16:16

    Hello Hello Wake up all of you out there. Top managers, CEO's Chairmen etc. It takes at least 20 years of being an understudy to get to the top you don't just arrive overnight. All the companies that had a "black" (am I allowed to say that word) OR should I say African African CEO'S at huge salaries FAILED!!!!!!!! Education does not happen overnight and learning to take over a company does not happen overnight. All you want is the top jobs to be able to have big cars and a lavish life style remember most of the people in top jobs start at 6 a.m. in the morning and often are still working at midnight. Education is what is needed and unfortunately this government has failed in every way to educate the people and alienated the good teachers that were available 17 years ago. So Philani you might be a very very old man when you will see that the black to white ratio has changed in the top managerial jobs. Sadly our best of the best have already left the country and surprisingly are in the top jobs overseas makes you wonder WHY!!!!!!!

  • geraldsebanda - 2012-07-16 13:13

    so what! Do you think it makes sense to hire a lazy uneducated lout manage a company

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