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Million whites leave SA - study

2006-09-24 16:37

Johannesburg - One million white South Africans - almost a fifth - have left the country in the past ten years.

This figure was released last week in a report from the South African Institute of Race Relations (SAIRR).

Frans Cronjé, who compiled the report, said it was especially crime and affirmative action which had driven a fifth of South Africa's white population out of the country.

He did an analysis of Statistics South Africa's Household Surveys between 1995 and 2005, emigration figures and other reliable estimates on population numbers.

Cronjé said the results left himself and his colleagues dumbfounded.

"When we drew the graphs we saw that almost a whole generation of white South Africans are not here anymore."

Young people, children leaving

The SAIRR's population pyramid of white South Africans show a definite loss of young people and children under the age of ten.

The figures for 2005 put the number of white South Africans in the country at 4.3 million, 841 000 fewer than the 5.2 million of 1995.

Cronjé predicts that the white population would continue to shrink, and, he said, the situation would have a far-reaching impact on the economy.

"The white population is getting older, which means the white taxpayers are only going to contribute to the economy for the next twenty years. There would have to be a huge influx of skilled workers to fill this gap. This, unfortunately, is not the case."

Due to the inequalities of the past, the education of most of the black children is still not on par to fill these gaps.

Last year, for example, only 3 000 black learners passed matric with higher grade mathematics, said Cronjé.

Economically productive

Most of the white emigrants are economically productive people, said Marco Macfarlane, co-author of the report.

However, in the last decade the black economically productive population grew by 81%. Some of these people have slot into the high-income group, where black people make up a third of the top earners.

Whites, however, still account for half of this group, where Indians and coloureds make up 7% and 6% of the high-income group respectively.

The rest of the black entrants to the labour market are busy in the informal sector, which do not necessarily contribute to the tax income.

"Black people are entering the economy at a stiff pace, but of the economically active middle class (the country's biggest tax contributors), blacks only account for 1%."

Macfarlane said crime and affirmative action are the top reasons for the exodus of whites.

More whites going to leave

"And because the crime figures are not going to decline rapidly and affirmative action is to continue, more whites are going to leave.

"The young people reckon they are being punished for what happened in the previous dispensation. They are furious, because they feel they had no part in it," said Macfarlane.

According to the report the emigrants are between 20 and 40 years old.

"This is the group that have children and help grow the population, but now they're getting their children overseas. And they don't come back. That means the white population is going to continue to shrink."

The decline in the white population in the decade to 2005 is estimated at 16.1%.

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Comments
  • G - 2007-08-07 08:51

    Its only when we start to take joint ownership of the issues in our country that things will start to sort themselves out. Blaming a faceless entity for crime and corruption is not going to resolve anything. I still believe that there are opportunities for hard working SA citizens in this country, regardless of creed, and I believe that AA and BEE policies are an important step to creating a sustainable socio-economic balance. I feel sad that people feel it necessary to judge me because I have chosen to stay here with my children when I do see a future for them here. Anger and frustration are a by-product of fear - I'm sure that if people took personal accountability for improving their lives and the future of this country, that some of this "fear" would be mitigated.

  • Very_Sad - 2007-08-07 08:51

    We would love to leave. If only we had the money. My husband is struggling to find work due to the dreaded Pale Male syndrome. We are always having to cover for our black co-workers and usually end up doing most of their work for them as they cant do it. If you dare mention it, your job is at risk and you are labled a racist. Government refuses to admit that crime is a problem. What a joke! How would they feel if they were targeted by crime? Whites shouldnt be looked down on for wanting a better life elsewhere. Why should all whites be punished for what was done by others years ago? South Africa, as much as I love the weather, is going to the dogs!

  • Pale Rider - 2007-08-07 08:51

    What an outpouring of words this article has provoked! Remember that the migration of people goes back to the time of Moses and probably even before that. This is therefore nothing new or sensational at all. White and black tax payers who can afford it will always leave South Africa, so long as the ANC government continues to condone mediocrity and poor standards in the public service. Unfortunately this translates a lot of the time into crime and the violent attacks leading to loss of life. My white and black friends all think like this. To be honest I am currently thinking about leaving. It is very distressing. I am not bothered by AA, BEE - I have 2 bachelors degrees and can work anywhere in the private secotr at a senior level. Crime is the leading cause of taxpayers leaving the country.

  • Tired of hearing complaints - 2007-08-07 08:51

    All i read is bitching and moaning about AA, BEE, crime and what ever else we can find. All south africans are affected by crime and as a non white i to have been a victim of crime but i will not let the criminals of this country chase me away. Believe me as a proffessional no matter what colour it is all to easy to get a job anywhere in the world and i have been working long term in other countries europe and Africa and theres no place like south africa. The real reason that people leave is for more money period and if they where making loads of money in SA theres no way they would leave. It is human nature to be clanish and talk about stuff on common ground. When wihites are together they talk about how shit South Africa is getting and when non whites, whatever colour are together then they talk about how racist whites still behave. We are all like sheep so please have some identity, character and consideration for fellow humans.

  • Katinka - 2007-08-07 08:51

    Another rape, another murder, another hi-jacking, another child being molested...we see it happening everyday in our own town, suburb, city. I ask myself, were will it end? Will our president please stop meddling in other countries affairs and addres this anarchy?

  • Happy in UK - 2007-08-07 08:51

    We left for the UK at the beginning of this year and it is the best thing that we have ever done. Our children are getting a superior education in a village school and have had experiences and opportunities that they never had or would have in SA. Our biggest shock was that this excellent schooling was FREE. Sure we miss our family and friends but they are all here visiting us. It is a big decision to leave what you have known all your life, but you get to a point where your childrens safety and future come first. We live in the most amazing village and we have never met such friendly people in all our lives. Life and opportunities are what you make of it and this has been one of our best life experiences so far. Not everyone has the same opportunities in life but you must just make the most of the ones given to you. We will be back to SA at some stage but it wil be on holiday.

  • Maverick - 2007-08-07 08:52

    Things have changed & if whites dont like the changes they must LEAVE us the way they found us.This is comming from a 19 year old!!

  • I Miss SA - 2007-08-07 08:52

    I left SA 5 years ago after the frustration of having to cover up for AA “engineers” who were not making the grade. After a lot of thought, I moved to the USA where I quadrupled my salary within 3 years and work in a great environment where hard work is rewarded and folks get promotions. In SA, I worked hard and long to increase my skills for snr. Engineering positions within the company, but was always turned down for AA appointments. I guess that SA is suffering because of the AA policies that were put in place everywhere without considering their long term impact. AA is necessary, but do not disenfranchise those fields (engineering and doctors) that require the proper skills and experience. Here in the USA, many employees are desperate for engineers from India, EU, and even South Africa. The US recognizes that they will have a large shortage of engineers in 2011 and are going something about it. Does the SA government really think that they will competitively attract foreign engineers to SA vs. the USA?

  • Reality - 2007-08-07 08:52

    Black people always blame racism and politics when us white people dare to speak the truth - the truth of reverse racism... but dont call me a racist, call me a realist.. look around... Eskom, SAA, Strikes, Cosatu... all being handled the wrong way, which is the realistic outcome if society is not a meritocracy. I support AA, but only if done correctly... im taking my skills and will use them to uplift the UK or Australia... Bye bye...

  • LVT - 2007-08-07 08:53

    I made a promise when i got married 17 years ago that no matter what i will protect my family(wife and 2 boys) if it means that i have to relocate in a foreign land so be it.I have did not vote for apartheid but yes to stop it during elections in 1990.Currently finalising my MBA studies in SA and sourching great opportunities and to secure a future where you can sleep at night not spend a fortune on security systems and pay additional guards to patrol streets at night.Why is this all necessary? Already 13 years into a new democracy but and it seems that nothing has changed in the African culture.I have excellent black friends and dont care about BEE and AA threats if you want to work you will get something to do..but the safety of my family .. no that i will not compromise ..

  • Scuba69 - 2007-08-07 08:53

    Please for one moment believe it is only whites leaving SA. We have lived in the UK for a number of years now, at that time one could speak afrikaans with ease, this is no longer possible. The amount of black, coloured and Indian people we have met that have also left SA defies belief. We have been out of SA for 4 years and lived in Hermanus do we miss it, yes, every day of our lives. I miss by dive buddies, out door life, the Capes great sense of humour. Will I ever return no, not because of BEE, ABC or what, ever daft abbreviations the goverment brings up, it is CRIME the one thing the present goverment refuses to acknowledge or tackle

  • Peter Ma Fi Mushkila - 2007-08-07 08:53

    It has been 5 years now living in another country, Daily I recieve e-mails on crime, on the deterioration of law and order. my first few years away I promoted South Africa and was proud to call myself a South African. This has changed I now joke with my fellow expats on the situation in South Africa. Many of the expats here had wanted to attend the World Cup in 2010, after my forwarding of e-mails that has changed. I suggest that South Africa changes its currency to Euros as I am sure those that do attend the World Cup will be well robbed of thier Euros. What a sad State. "Ma Salaam" (Good Bye)

  • Disgruntled - 2007-08-07 08:53

    I left SA for good in May 2006, taking my wife and two children with me. My reasons were simple - crime and no opportunities for white men. I was too young to be part of the process of apartheid, yet I was discriminated against for being white. My chances of promotion were severly minimized because every company I worked for was terrified of having a white man promoted above any other race. Never mind that, if I had wanted to start my own venture I world have to have taken on a black partner in order to land any decent contracts thanks to BEE. I just dont see the point of remaining in the highest taxed country in the world and having precious few of the benefits which should come as a result of that taxation. Additionally my people are now being tortured, murdered and raped just for being white, yet the government refuses to acknowledge SA has a severe crime problem and the police are unbelievably ineffectual. Reverse-apartheid is alive and very well in SA.

  • Rod - 2007-08-07 08:53

    My folks left Zim in the 80s cause they saw no future there. I left SA with my wife 3 years ago for the same reason - I want a normal place to bring up my kids. I had my parents blessing, family & friends - those who can leave are doing so. For many it is tough. For my mates, theyre just making good cash, but ready to leave at a moments notice - not one of them plans to be there in more than 5 years time. People can say what they want, but i worry about my future, and that of my children, and give rocks for an incompitent government. I have said for the past 15 years already and stand by my statement: "SA will go the same way as the rest of Africa... it will just take a bit longer then the rest." I have never doubted that thought. I love South Africa tremendously as a country, but unfortunately wont compromise my families lives for it. Good luck to those who choose to stand behind!

  • Irish South African - 2007-08-07 08:53

    I am a born South African and always will be and will also stay and contribute to this beautifull country, I am not happy with the crime and the injustice we see. Get involved as an individual and you will make a difference, stop complaining and you will start reacting positively and positive things will happen, this country of ours will change for the better for all concerned. STOP BEING SO NEGATIVE.

  • Norsk - 2007-08-07 08:53

    Well, just let Mother Nature take her course. Why should a white person save a colored person if the white persons child is in danger of being killed or die. Natural selection has always culled out the unfit in ALL species. Its called servival of the fitist. If you want to help out the black africans be my guest but dont force me to. Be carefull, they may KILL YOU!!!

  • johno - 2007-08-07 08:53

    I have struggled with my decision to relocate myself and my family to Australia...but when I sat down to fill in the forms to request dual-citizenship it settled the issue for me. I was asked to specify my race and the options were: White, Coloured, Indian, African (NOT Black!). A kick in the teeth. Aren't we all African? Oh well... life is great here.

  • Wagter - 2007-08-07 08:53

    The only reason the amounts of whites leaving is so low, is because most of us dont have the finances etc needed to emigrate. If anyone has advice on how to get out of this hell-hole, please let the rest of us know.

  • sa_japie - 2007-08-07 08:53

    We leave SA in 2 weeks time - FOR GOOD! Why? As a white male with an MBA I cannot find sustainable employment after being "retrenched" to make space for black quotas in the mining industry. After responding to in excess of 150 job applications to be told by most that they require EE candidates I looked overseas. I landed a job with the 2nd application I made. Somebody appreciated my skills and experience - sadly not my own country!

  • Vix - 2007-08-07 08:53

    I took Economics to third year in varsity so Im all for uplifting the previously disadvantaged and AA is necessary for that, because whites will generally be the best-man-for-the-job since they have decades of education that blacks were not able to receive. So by all means, to level the playing field blacks will have to be given jobs that they might not be completely suited for at present, kind of like being thrown into the deep-end, so that later on theres equality. But lets be realistic...South Africa at its present time is just not suited for whites as per the reasons mentioned above. Why should this generation suffer for what happened in the past so that the future could be good?! Why must people like me bear the grunt of this change when we won’t experience the benefits that will follow in 50 years! Personally…I want to live my life to its fullest potential and right now Africa is not conducive to that aspiration.

  • KLS - 2007-08-07 08:53

    I left SA when I was 18 as I did not feel I had a future there. I have been living in the UK for 6 years now with no regrets. Dont get me wrong, i miss home alot, i miss my lifestyle, i miss the sun, SA will ALWAYS be my home... BUT, the opportunities I have had here have been enormous! I have been able to make a good life for myself here and career opportunties have been fantastic! Would I ever go back? Never say never but until SA actually understands the meaning of EQUAL OPPORTUNITIES and implements it - they have no chance... If it carries on the way it is, it will end up like Zim... Its the SA Government that pushed me out of my own country where I spent most of my life.

  • Ozzie - 2007-08-07 08:53

    I am a white expat who left to give my family a better life elsewhere. Looking back I can understand why blacks feel the way they do. If I was in their shoes I would feel pretty anoyed about being paid R5 p/h working for a white being paid R50 p/h. Whites have got rich off black labour for years so why shouldnt blacks want a bigger slice of the cake. I can understand why some have turned to crime to support their starving families. Saying all this you cant blame whites either who have left the country in search of a better life for their families. Most whites like myself who have left had nothing to do with apartheid so why should we now suffer when we can make a new life elsewhere?

  • the boong - 2007-08-07 08:54

    No wonder they invented apartheid,they must have known something.i left 30 years ago and still miss south africa

  • QW - 2007-08-07 08:54

    It is quite amazing to read how many people are using the same comments or reasons. I work as an expat and have been for the past 6 years and the only thing that concerns me about returning to SA ONE DAY is crime. Finding employment when we return does not bother me as I have learnt that you have to improve yourself and have some thing better than the person next to you. International working experience in my case is what I know will count in my favor. As for our children, they will have to learn new life skills and prove that they are worthy of obtaining employment and doing better than the person next to you. EMPLOYMENT IN NOT A RIGHT IT IS A PRIVALAGE. The crime situation is the one area that only everybody working together and making government and BIG BUSINESS accountable for how they run of the country will the situation change. I look forward to the day when we are back home in SA and enjoying what our country has to offer. Q

  • What else? - 2007-08-07 08:54

    My wife and I will be number million and one and million and two. Why? Because other countries are willing to take us and give us jobs based purely on our qualifications and experience. Forget the emotional aspects, I want a safe place to work and live. South Africa no longer satisfies that criteria. Simple as that.

  • Mineralix - 2007-08-07 08:54

    I arrived in this country 22 years ago, after I couldn't find a job in Germany. When I visit my mother-country nearly everbody moans about problems we laugh about. They have a 1st world environment but are unhappy. In RSA generally people are good for a laugh, you can approach them easily and we have a good sense of humour. All my overseas friends are jealous about our living standard but shocked about our high walls. My oldest son left RSA already but he misses the country. My youngest one plans to leave as well. I am stuck here, I am too old for getting a well-paid job overseas. To leave RSA, yes and no.

  • Living It Up DownUnder - 2007-08-07 08:54

    We have lived in Australia for 4 years now - and LOVE it. Citizens. We are safe. Why did we leave - CRIME and a future for our son. It is 22h36 and I am safe in my home with NO burgular bars, open windows and the back door is open. I walk around safely. I dont lock my car doors, I can have the window wide open. We are SAFE. I sleep peacefully. My wish is that more people could have what we have. My only worry is the balance of my family living in SA. By the way, we didnt come for a "look see" first - we just moved and made it happen for us. We go on at least 2 holidays a year now that were earning Dollars. Oz is now what SA was 25 years ago. Be safe - wherever you are.

  • Addio Africa - 2007-08-07 08:54

    To some critics, let me make something absolutely clear.. I (and many, many other South Africans) did NOT support apartheid - did NOT vote for the ruling party at the time - but we were a minority and thus had little or no influence. I can understand the principles behind EE, AA, BE or whatever else you want to call it, but the nett result has been to push people like myself out of the country I lived in for 25 years after moving from Zimbabwe. Crime and all I would prefer to live in SA, but regrettably as a highly skilled and experienced Information Security Consultant there is no work for me there whereas I found work within a few days in the UK!! The current SA Government needs to solve the problem of upliftment WITHOUT penalising those who are NOT black... There are many ways to achieve this through positive means - tax incentives, skills transfer.... Mr Mbeki, a suggestion to you - INCENTIVISE - DONT PENALISE......

  • Fedup - 2007-08-07 08:54

    For those of you that have left, good choice. I envy all of you. I'll leave SA the first opportunity I get. Crime and violence is taking over. I need a peaceful night of sleep without waking up every time my dog barks.

  • Tired.... - 2007-08-07 08:54

    There is no cure for greed, or the unwillingness to accept that all people deserve fair and equal treatment. Or for the fact that there is a general unwillingness to see that the current state of affairs is nothing more than a backlash of the same set of rules and favouritisms being applied to another group. Take a leaf from the Germans in their attempts to fix up their bad publicity with the Jews when it comes to taking accountability and responsibility for unjust and shameful actions.

  • TinkerBell - 2007-08-07 08:55

    I left 25 years ago - before the chicken run. I foresaw what was coming, and I predict that far worse is yet to happen . . . regardless of your skin colour. There is a remorseless cultural and even physical genocide of all that is "white" in progress. Those in denial are wilfully ignorant and naive. As jy jou kinders liefhet, sal jy die pad vat - hoe gouer, hoe beter. There is a lot of opportunity in Alberta, Canada. Check into it.

  • Crystal Sher - 2007-08-07 08:55

    I have been working in the UK for the last 2 years and it has opened my eyes to a lot of things. I can actually trust people. I dont have to make sure that my door is locked or that I have an emergency exit plan from my house etc. I am returning to SA in December and the crime absolutely scares me. I am a female, who will probably end up living on my own - which means I will be a soft target and I am genuinely wondering if I am doing the right thing. I have an MCSE and when I was in SA, nobody would hire me because I didnt have any experience yet I arrived in the UK and have been highly sought after. South Africa has the potential to be a wonderful place but then so was Zimbabwe.

  • zoom - 2007-08-07 08:55

    My family and I are also emmigrating to NZ. I am an diesel mechanic with 20 years experience, and my wife a nurse. the reason we are leaving is BEE. we have trained many black people, but get left behind because of our skin coulour.

  • meg - 2007-08-07 08:55

    We left...but had to come back after fours years as our Irish work permits had expired. We were quite looking forward to coming home but having been back for two years now - we should have tried harder to re-new our permits! Salaries in East London are shocking!!!

  • Newstart - 2007-08-07 08:55

    I represent a family of four, all of whom are now Canadian citizens, but who all miss sunsets at Bloubergstrand. We dont however miss the constant fear of crime-related violence and love the way our diverse society functions in Vancouver.

  • Stef - 2007-08-07 08:55

    I am one of those white taxpayers that left South Africa and now I am doing extremely well in a free and safe world where I dont have to continuously watch my back or pander to "racial quotas". What were the options: a) Stay and be slowly demolished by the system. b) Stay and fight. Pointless. Counterviolence will not bring back economic wealth or health, it will only make you feel good if you believe in a "scorched earth" scenario. c) Get out and get on with your life. The answer is a no-brainer. The 1 million white taxpayers that left took 1 million skills with them. Until the ANC government drop their powerhungry arrogance, another 1 million skilled taxpayers will leave the moment they have an opportunity and reduce the tax income a further 20%+. Then we will see how the government find money to fund their lavish lifestyles. Aaaahhh.... I know, just blame apartheid (that dead horse they have been riding for the last 12 years).

  • SFY - 2007-08-07 08:55

    Leaving SA was the best move we have ever made .The education that the kids have been exposed to is of the highest standard. One is now at Uni in Europe and the second will follow soon.This would not have been possible if we had been too nervous to take the leap.

  • PJ - 2007-08-07 08:55

    I LEFT SA IN 1999 BECAUSE I COULD NOT FIND EMPLOYMENT. I WAS WITHOUT WORK FOR 9 MONTHS. I HAD A BRITISH PASSPORT SO I DECIDED TO USE IT. WITHIN A MONTH I WAS WORKING. I BROUGHT MY 3 CHILDREN TO THE UK AND MY TWO ELDEST HAVE DONE VERY WELL. I MISS SA BUT THEN YOU READ WHAT IS HAPPERNING AND THEN I AM GLAD TO HAVE LEFT. I HAVE MANY SA BLACKS WORKING WITH ME WHO SAY SA WAS BETTER DURING WHITE RULE ??? I HOPE ONE DAY SA WILL ONCE AGAIN DO WELL AND THIS WILL ONLY HAPPEN WHEN THE GOVERMENT DEALS WITH THE CRIME RATE AND STOP BLAMING EVERYTHING ON APARTHATE AS I CALL IT. HOW MANY BLACK PEOPLE HAVE LEFT SA ?

  • VanRooyen - 2007-08-07 08:55

    You must be freakin mad to stay in this country! Im a medical doctor, my wife is a reg. nurse. Our son is 2 years old. Black on white crime, affirmative action, no carreer opportunities, no future for our son, who happens to be born with a too white skin. A rand becoming more and more useless. The xhosas and the zulus an inch away from civil war. Of course we are leaving. Fjordland in New Zealand has a job waiting for us from Jan. 1st. It really doesnt matter how cold or how much rain it is. Just get us out of this place.

  • GT - 2007-08-07 08:55

    We left SA last year, and your article is true on all counts, we are in our 30s with kids and left for the reasons you stated, there is no future for our kids in SA, maybe if you can get the goverment to wake up this will stop happening. Regards Glen

  • rob - 2007-08-07 08:55

    my kids will also be leaving sa once their education has been completed as i do not have the funds to set them up in their own business this is a reality due to affirmitive action As they cannot get into UCT due to racial selections they will also complete their education overseas

  • midr.bf - 2007-08-07 08:55

    Read Editor Vics : Whingeing whites and Mbekis pay...enough said!

  • White Patriot - 2007-08-07 08:55

    The whingers that have left are still whinging??? Leave us alone now and dont expect us to try to improve what YOU were unhappy about. You have left a beautiful country and those of us that have stayed are reaping the rewards of a strong economy. There is little or no crime where I live (Umdloti KZN) and there are many such areas in SA!!!

  • maggie - 2007-08-07 08:55

    I live in a small townhouse complex in Gauteng (4 units) and over the last two years we have had an escalating number of attacks on us ... the last left a tenant shot in the face with half his jaw hanging loose .. Luckily he has survived. I don’t care whether you are Black or White, I want to sleep at night. I have lived in other countries and they all have their problems but not like this.. We should be getting over this splitting ourselves .. blood is the same colour

  • LeftLongAgo - 2007-08-07 08:55

    10 years from now, the white population will be reduced to the elderly or the unskilled that cannot leave. Meanwhile the black population will have a huge population of orphans and elderly after AIDS has run its course. South Africa will have no skilled workers and no tax base. With that, the infrastructure will begin to crumble and the downward spiral will accelerate. What is going to stop South Africa from becoming another Zimbabwe? While I dont want to say apartheid was a good thing, is what is happening to South Africa really better? Sure, everyone now has the same opportunities - but those opportunities are really miserable. South Africa is dying - literally.

  • DiamondEagle - 2007-08-07 08:56

    A colleague I work(ed) with emigrated to New Zealand in Feb 2007. They emigrated back to South Africa in June 2007! They got tired of being treated like outsiders in New Zealand. They say that the packaging is a lot better than whats in the box. I guiess the sun wasnt so much brighter on the other side. Makes you think...

  • Realist - 2007-08-07 08:56

    I left South Africa nine years ago when I realiased that the whites would have no future.I am now a proud Australian were I am acepted for my skills and not skin colour.I urge all whites that have the means to packup and seek greener pastures.

  • samavie - 2007-08-07 08:56

    I left SA for 4 years, to have a wonderful crime-free life in London, with global travel cheaper, and opportunities better. I came back to be with my ailing father, and the constant carping of my family on how much better life in SA was. I thought the grass was greener, but I was terribly wrong. It took me 8 months to find a job, constantly labeled over qualified and the crime is terrible, my house is a jail, my kids have learnt to be wary of everyone, the salaries are laughable, and the Rand is worth nothing! Ill be leaving again next year, to safe, secure Europe, with affordable schools & childcare. After all, The Minister of Safety & Security told me to leave didnt he? Im following his instructions! Good bye taxman - youll not be getting more from me after that! Id rather pay it to a government that actually uses it to provide services that benefit me, not their pockets!

  • Blom - 2007-08-07 08:56

    I understand the reasons that many people have left and believe that many more will still go.Its a pity that we whites lived in splendid isolation for so long, almost had a private police force to look after us whilst the rest of the country went to the dogs! I believe I read that 100 thousand cars are borrowed each year in Australia and the home protection business is booming in Britain and the murder rate is increasing again in the USA so its not exactly utopia anywhere is it? The problem we face is incompetance and the unforunate African habit of not wanting to sack our mates. If one of our leaders was prepared to grasp that nettle, particulary on the police force then things would start to come right. Have the courage Mr President and leave behind you a legacy for future generations.

  • Jeff - 2007-08-07 08:56

    I live in the UK with my wife and two young daughters aged 3 and 7. I moved to the UK in 1988. Since then I have seen a massive amount of South Africans who have moved to the UK because of the opportunities here. When I first came here most South Africans worked in pubs or restaurants. Now they are involved at every level of commerce and trade. Whilst in Canary Wharf, the financial centre of London, last week you could hardly hear an english accent! All I could hear was SA accents! This truly amazes me as these are people that could have contributed their skills and expertise in SA but alas no longer. I yearn to return to SA but with 2 children I cant afford to take the chance with violent crime being so high. Mbeki, please wake up and smell the coffee, you need to sort South Africa out...and quickly.

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