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Manyi slams Nedbank chair

2012-04-10 08:31

 Johannesburg - Cabinet spokesperson Jimmy Manyi has lashed out at Nedbank Group [JSE:NED] chairperson Reuel Khoza for his "attack" on the government.

In a letter published in The Star newspaper on Tuesday, Manyi said comments Khoza had made which accompanied the bank's annual results showed "disingenuousness and that his books aren't exactly balanced".

In the report, released last month, Khoza said the country's "strange breed" of leadership needs to adhere to the institutions that underpin democracy.

"Our political leadership's moral quotient is degenerating and we are fast losing the checks and balances that are necessary to prevent a recurrence of the past," Khoza wrote.

In response, Manyi wrote: "It would help if Dr Khoza were to expand on his allegations and tell us exactly which checks and balances are being lost 'fast' and which recurrence of the past - and which past - he fears so much."

Manyi also questioned Khoza's negativity considering the annual results document pack had an overview reflecting a significantly more positive, or at least expectant, disposition among management.

"Given Dr Khoza's putative concern about the state of levels of public accountability, it is only fair to ask to what extent his statement reflects the views of the illustrious and diverse board which now includes eminent champions of transformation... or is he out on a lone frolic," said Manyi.

 

Comments
  • Piet - 2012-04-10 08:50

    Jimmy my friend, the truth does not look so good anymore for the corrupt cadres. And you have lost nothing in private business, stop intefering!

      Grootrot - 2012-04-10 09:11

      Or to run a private business yourself, Manyi. How about you, Manyi, and your cronies, assist in providing a climate in which private enterprise can thrive and not be player and referee or when you are both, at least to be a fair referee. The Arms Deal and the Eskom Boilers come to mind as well as MAlema's advisory co to direct tenders in Limpopo in the right direction - it happened on your party's watch - so do you need more evidence of degeneration?

      Donovan - 2012-04-10 09:30

      Just look where Eskom went under Rueul Khoza's watch. He knows all about useless leadership.

      colin.dovey - 2012-04-10 10:22

      We need only to invoke Shakespeare here: The quotation "The lady doth protest too much, methinks." The phrase has come to mean that one can "insist so passionately about something not being true that people suspect the opposite of what one is saying.....people are starting to see Manyi as a real joke when he said that the Western Cape has too many coloured people........wow....and KZN has too many Indians....and the USA too many wh*tes....

      Christopher - 2012-04-10 10:37

      Times like these that I am glad I work (freelance) for a company like this. Well done Nedbank and Reuel Khoza..

  • Buhle - 2012-04-10 09:01

    Very quick to defend Mr. Manyi, are you scared of something Jimmy... Mr. Khoza just leak that report

  • chiepner - 2012-04-10 09:02

    Really Jimmy? How many billions gets stolen out of government coffins with nothing to show for it? How many times have we heard the excuse "money has dissapeared and we dont know where it has gone?" Eaterns Cape's education is in chaos due to maladministration and corruption, recently an entire province was put on notice again corruption and maladministration, Dept Of Transport has been exposed as one of the main culprits in corruption and maladministration and tender trepeneurship in local councils and higher government departments has bee well documented even though the big wigs tend to cover it up or throw that all to favourite line that just because sertain people are WELL connceted to specific government employees it does not mean that they can not have any dealings with those specific department where their friends and families have direct influence or at least a big say in who gets what. You want more prove Jimmy?

      Niel - 2012-04-10 09:28

      R 5 billion went missing from the EC Education Dep 2 years ago - R 5 billion and no one has been held accountable for that....!!!!

      Hettie - 2012-04-10 10:42

      Well nobody said Jimmy got the job as spokesperson according to intelligence. He is not a very bright individual,they just dont like bad publicity,and if they get it they put a slam on everything. So much for democracy that they have been going on for ages about,there is no democracy for the general public,they use the word if and when it suits them.

  • Herman - 2012-04-10 09:03

    Dr.Khoza has hit the nail on the head! The truth hurts the anc. The anc is cracking up. Vote DA to give the anc a big fright! Viva democracy!

      Sizwe - 2012-04-10 10:21

      Only people like the learned DR REUEL can swap an ANC vote for DA my friend...Clearly looking at Nedbank and the snail pace transformation in management positions the DR has done more than enough to fail the black nation......

  • Mncedisi - 2012-04-10 09:03

    Am very disappointed to ANC leaders, they way they criticise Khoza, what they have done better? What happening to freedom of expression. Somehow I start to believe wen juju said ANC its becoming ditactors. Mantashe do nt act as if u do nt have ur mistake as for Manyi ...

  • francois.delange - 2012-04-10 09:05

    It just shows, the ANC hates the truth and criticism. If dr Khoza wasn't black he would have been called a racist. Pathetic!

      Bryan - 2012-04-10 10:16

      Couldn't have said that better myself Francois!!!

  • Herman - 2012-04-10 09:07

    How this corrupt and incapable anc regime has degressed in recent years just shows their utter content of human lives. They have proven in less than 20 years that their only goal for SA was to get rid of whites, plunder and rape the country and to enrich the top brass. Just another devestaion of an African country is on its way, and, the worst is, there is no way of stopping this fall to nothingness, not even a knowledgable person as Dr Khoza is listened to, but attacked for stating the obvious.

  • Kevin - 2012-04-10 09:13

    If Jimmy Manyi denies it, then it must have some credibility.

  • mholthuysen - 2012-04-10 09:18

    The truth hurts African National Criminals... if any of the "leaders" would have any interests besides filling their own pockets and basking in the lime light as being "leaders" - criticism like this would open eyes and make people wake up.... in a democracy one is allowed to voice opinions - but we all know that the anc has no interest in democracy.

  • Andres - 2012-04-10 09:23

    Jimmy Manyi, this upstanding gentleman with 'so much credibility' said there is an oversupply of Coloured people in the Cape; Khosa's is simply telling you the same thing: There is an oversupply of low-IQ's in government.

  • Eidel - 2012-04-10 09:23

    Jimmy, Take an in-depth look at government and it would be self-explanatory. Don’t make stupid comments you are looking bad enough

  • David - 2012-04-10 09:24

    Where is the support for Khoza's bold statement from our brave and hardy business leaders?

      Genet - 2012-04-10 11:36

      Hear!Hear!

      Jacqui - 2012-04-10 11:52

      David, our brave and hardy business leaders have their heads in the sand. That way they keep their profits high and dry.

      jannie.beirowski - 2012-04-10 11:54

      Read the anual report of the ceo of Absa to find the support of Khoza!

  • Michele - 2012-04-10 09:25

    Jimmi< I think R14 billion stolen tax payer money in one financial year should be enough explanation.

  • Sizwe - 2012-04-10 09:40

    You r spot on cde manyi.......

      Polotic - 2012-04-10 17:33

      @Sizwe - You must be an Ostrich with your in the sand to believe that the ANC are lily white! Forgive the pun.

  • IcemanGP - 2012-04-10 09:44

    Truth hurts!

  • Howsit - 2012-04-10 09:47

    Does Dr Khoza have to spell it out for you Manyi? Manyi is prime example number one of the incompetents running things at the top. The man has no moral fibre, only intense zealot loyalty to his seniors. Like many top sycophants of ANC, loyalty only to their boss, not the country.

  • Ronald - 2012-04-10 09:47

    Jimmy, up to now most of us had only thought you to be a dim witted fool, but your utterances has now confirmed it. "It would help if Dr Khoza were to expand on his allegations and tell us exactly which checks and balances are being lost 'fast' and which recurrence of the past - and which past - he fears so much." Clearly the ANC,s putrid education system has claimed another victim. If you cannot logically deduce that he is talking referring to the ridiculous newly proposed laws as well as the Apartheid government and the human rights abuses it fostered, please give the taxpayer a full refund on your salary for being totally unqualified and incompetent in your job, and while you are at it, the rest of government can do so too. The voters are past the point of believing the rubbish you and your like are sprouting, inferring that the citizens of this country are a lot of mindless fools.

  • Bertus - 2012-04-10 09:52

    Manyi, you have to be joking? All over SA more and more people are protesting against non-service delivery. Our water resources are threatend more and more while our roads are crumbling(except our \new and super effecitve\ toll roads). Millions of rands are lost due to corrupt officials and ministers, some sitting in the highest of ranks within your political party. You are threatening democracy with a bill that will see SA taken back into the age of secrecy. The list actually goes on, Manyi.

  • Ishmael - 2012-04-10 09:53

    The head line should be. Manyi slams Nedbank chair for telling the truth!

  • Herbert - 2012-04-10 09:57

    Jimmy, stop involving yourself in business. These people can operate a calculator, and can count above twenty without using their fingers and toes. Let the man share his opinion and insight. As for Gwede, can we start a fund to have your teeth repaired? That face needs some changes before I can feel comfortable with it being on TV. And before I forget, spinmaster Manyi should not condemn the opinions of business. He himself was "culled" from Black Business because he couldn't change a thing.

  • dewalds3 - 2012-04-10 09:57

    Hahaha - Manyi could not play the RACISM! one on Khoza - he had to come up with something else.

  • tobydt - 2012-04-10 10:01

    Manyi is the root of all evil :P

  • Kevin - 2012-04-10 10:01

    the truth really hurts. one man made a statements and the entire ANC comments. It makes you wonder

  • linda.l.mndayi - 2012-04-10 10:18

    Have to love Manyi for not wanting anyone to eclipse him as the village idiot, even if it took him days to come up with his missives

  • Tumelo - 2012-04-10 10:20

    I think Mr Jimmy should look into the facts instead of responding just because! He will find the truth there. Corruption, incompetence and self-interest characterise our country and no analysis is required to prove this.

  • Ian - 2012-04-10 10:25

    To all the negative commentators here, is there nothing at all that you proud of about your country? You really do not have one or two things govt has done or doing? Yes corruption and crime is a problem but can you say something positive about country? Leave Westen Cape out because there is nothing bad there.

      tobydt - 2012-04-10 10:30

      Its not about seeing god/bad in the country. South Africa is awesome, but our government is incompetent and corrupt.

      Tumelo - 2012-04-10 10:33

      Bear in mind that this is a response to denialism by Jimmy Manyi. Whenever crime and corruption perpetrators are the people in government, then the problem is much greater!

      Ze Don - 2012-04-10 10:41

      I'm proud that all the ministers have shiny new cars... I'm not proud that the taxpayers have to pay for them though!

      Nathi - 2012-04-10 11:09

      As well as the DA is doing in the WC, they also have their issues. There is no political party on this earth where everything is hunky dory. So please get off the high horse. This country would be so much better if we all worked together for it (not just say it in words, cause at the end of the day words are cheap. i mean really look at one another and make a difference to our country by our actions, and also by instilling that patriotic spirit within our children. Why is it that across all divides no matter what issues they face, the Americans and the Japanese have that?). And I know some of you might be negative and say "whatever, I will emigrate when the time is right". Guess what, you think we have xenophobia? You ain't seen nothing. Unless you are wealthy like Patrice Motsepe/ Whitey Basson/ Mark Shuttleworth and are gonna create jobs(not 1 or 2), more like hundreds. People in foreign countries don't want you. The same as us, the feel you are there to take their jobs, women, husbands, etc,etc. It starts with us. We want the world to take us seriously, so let's be serious aout ourselves and our country. Bottom line, no one or any politacal party is gonna do it for us.

      Jacqui - 2012-04-10 11:55

      Ian, you are confronting us with a problem. Maybe you can start off by telling us what you are proud of about our country or what government has done or are doing. Don't take too long, but we can give you a month or so to come up with something.

      Jacqui - 2012-04-10 11:57

      Nathi, you have said it beautifully. Congratulations.

      Ishmael - 2012-04-10 12:47

      I am proud of Kulubuse Zuma, Julius Malema, Jacob Zuma and the shower, poor water sanitation, potholes, poor education standard, corrupt police force, terrible health sector, electricity load shedding, not forgetting 2 thank our government for the low standard RDP houses that ar falling apart, and the list goes on and on..what a great leadership we have in this country..I am proud to be south african..!

      Tumelo - 2012-04-10 14:02

      Perhaps there is! But currently the corruption eclipses all else!

  • eradingoana - 2012-04-10 10:26

    I think we have to tell trevor about this...first it was Gwede Mantashe,then big spender Nathi Mthethwa now Jimmy manyi, and he is the head of BUSA...The headlines should read: "Amazing Defending".If my memory serves me well,the only ANC member(spokesperson) who ever apologised, was Jackson Mthembu,when he was caught driving in a bus lane a few years ago.They simply never apologise,and they(ANC) take us for idiots...

  • Rob - 2012-04-10 10:28

    Can it be that Manyi protests too much? Does he really think that he will cover the corruption by this? Well, maybe, there are a lot of voters who will think as little as they need to,

  • Clive - 2012-04-10 10:39

    Unlike Mr Khoza, who spoke the truth, the whole truth, and nothing but the truth, Manyi wouldn't know the difference between truth and bulls**t. That's why he's in his present position. If only more business leaders - black, white and brown - had the guts to speak out, the country would be better off for it.

  • StirMonger - 2012-04-10 10:46

    Shame! He hasn't got the where with all comment on the problem, so lets try & denigrate the messenger. Couldn't play the race card this time either!!!!!

  • Richard - 2012-04-10 10:52

    Ja Jimmy your brain is also not quite balanced

  • Nyiks11 - 2012-04-10 10:53

    Dear Jimmy what Dr Khoza is trying to say is that there is an oversupply of a "strange breed of leaders" in government

  • Lerato - 2012-04-10 11:02

    Please be rational people, the problem is when people on this forum decide to ignore facts and just go on the attack just because they are Pro-Opposition or Pro-ANC. Manyi has a point here, it’s funny when you are attacking the government that they are not providing a good business environment and you financial results shows otherwise, Dr Khoza has to expand. And he must also explain to us what were his achievements at Eskom, remember it was Dr Khoza who failed to upgrade our power requirements and was the guy to blame for the power outages. Please Dr don’t start on the blame game !!!!

      Tumelo - 2012-04-10 11:10

      Expand on what? Where have you been? I think that Khoza's achievements or underachievements do not erase the prevelent government corruption and of course the moral plaque we facing. I don't think Jimmy should be defensivem

      Batsosi - 2012-04-10 11:45

      The problem is that you and unfortunately some ANC leaders are too preoccupied with Dr Khoza in your response to the issues he raised rather than the issues.

      Jacqui - 2012-04-10 11:59

      Lerato, this very rational person want to know what there is to expand on.

  • Batsosi - 2012-04-10 11:20

    Typical empty tin response. This coming from merchants of patronage and corruption is a bit rich. Mr Khoza does not owe you or anybody anything. The ANC is not comfortable with successful black people who did not get their success through its patronage.

      sandy.langenstrass - 2012-04-10 15:24

      @ Batsosi..the reason the ANC don't like a successful black business man who made it with out being corrupt....is because it makes them feel vulnerable,and they can not bring him down and expose him...because they have nothing on him...but he might have plenty on them.

  • Jacqui - 2012-04-10 11:47

    Don't you dare insult our beloved government. Manyi the yes man have spoken. Give us a break.

  • Luyanda - 2012-04-10 12:11

    Nedbank chair has hit the nail in the head, the nobody's in government are at loggerheads to defend what is visible to everybody, they should have just embraced the comments and get their house inorder.

  • Zengfuey - 2012-04-11 07:57

    Well Manyi - if people like Khoza does not 'attack' the government on valid issues, then we or our children will soon have a 88 year old crocodile cake for the ANC, symbolising their wickedly and in true Africa history clinging to power when they had served their alleged 'elite enrichment' purpose over the past 18 years. We desperately need representation by the people, for the people...Not a select few looking out for their buddies political system.

  • Thebeeame - 2012-05-15 17:40

    The people of this country need to declare war on the government!

  • vasee.pillay - 2012-09-04 21:24

    Manyi,you are a poophole.A dam racist who belong to the apartheid days and have no place in todays politics.You are a political scavenger who very easily plays the race card when it suits you. You should be booted out of the public sector and put in the mines to work. When you get your ass whipped then you will know how it feels to be racist.Roel Khoza is a man with vision ,hindsight and an economist who worked hard to get where he got. Unlike you the govt picks any tom,dick,harry and john to work in govtwithout any experience. Mr Khoza is being honest and frank when he says this govt.is sliding and show no accountability. This is how our country is run with people like Manyi.He has put the govt.in many akward situations and their credibility has taken a blow. He needs to be fired as he does not listen to the voices of reason who is advising the govt that it should get its house in order.

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