Malema: We will take land

2011-06-19 16:22

Johannesburg - ANC Youth League (ANCYL) leader Julius Malema vowed again on Sunday to "take land without payment" at the closing ceremony of his organisation's elective conference in Midrand, Johannesburg.

"There is no way you can be diplomatic about the issue of land. We will never be diplomatic about willing buyer, willing seller. It has failed," Malema told delegates.

He said the ANC at its last elective conference in Polokwane, in December 2007, acknowledged that an alternative needed to be found to the willing buyer, willing seller policy.

"The leadership of the ANC must implement the Polokwane resolution. Polokwane said willing buyer, willing seller has failed and we must find an alternative.

"You have failed to find an alternative. We must take the land without payment," said Malema.

But he said: "If you have got an alternative, we are prepared to listen."

Malema said the delegates who attended the four-day conference were "ready to confront white monopoly capital".

"They are determined to reclaim their land and we are asking for leadership."

And if the ruling party's leadership failed on this matter, the youth league would "lead an unled revolution which seeks to reclaim the land", said Malema.

A constitutional framework

The acceleration of land redistribution needed to be debated - but within a constitutional framework, Deputy President Kgalema Motlanthe told the conference.

"As we approach the centenary of the 1913 Land Act in 2013, we need to have some meaningful debates about acceleration of land restitution, within our constitutional framework," Motlanthe told delegates at the closing ceremony of the ANCYL's 24th conference.

"These and related challenges that define the history of oppression are matters which I hope the ANC will adequately address as we move towards 2013."

Motlanthe said Sunday commemorated the passing of the 1913 Land Act by the apartheid government, which had "devastating consequences" for blacks.

He said this piece of legislation removed the "only means Africans had to fend for themselves".

"The loss of land meant all other resources relating to land, such as livestock, seeds, were also no longer accessible, thus snuffing out the only means Africans had to fend for themselves."

The Land Act was the first major piece of segregation legislation passed by the Union parliament. The act decreed that only certain areas of the country could be owned by blacks.

  • Sentor - 2011-06-19 16:36

    The Zimbabwe option. Obviously just as other African countries the pursuit of freedom was not about freedom from oppression but freedom to plunder and destroy.

      Organist-1 - 2011-06-20 12:31

      Dewald, Apartheid was never invented. It was there from the beginning of time when sin came into the world because of a stupid apple and man's disobedience and listening to a woman. So the sooner you get rid of Winnie, the better. This land doesn't belong to him anyway to "take".

  • Rijger - 2011-06-19 16:38

    Bwahaha. And Juju also solved Zimbabwe's energy crisis. He vowed to import 5 million metric cubes of sand from Saudi Arabia so that they could drill for their own oil and get rid of the imperialists. The tragedy isn't Juju, it is the brainless morons that keep on believing in this little self-serving punk, hoping against their better judgement that miracles will happen.

  • gawie.botha - 2011-06-19 16:41

    Open question to Malema: "Why then dont u yust said a date for all white South Africans to leave South Africa! Dont be afraid..if u think u got the majority of voters behind u!" .....Dont prolong the agony! - 2011-06-19 20:55

      And fund the white people leaving the country... Lets toi toi about it...

      The LIon - 2011-06-20 09:35

      White South Africans are not going anywhere, this is also their country. All we need to do is tolerate one another.

  • Nfuko - 2011-06-19 16:45

    try to take my land/property from me...just try and see what happens...i will kill for my property right.

      james4usa - 2011-06-19 18:29

      No you won't.

      Ndlovu - 2011-06-19 19:52

      SA is not Zim... for sure, I will help you!.. Ownership of farmland is responsibility for our staff, staff staying for decades with us and became "family" , is responsibility for the nutrition of the country's people. Malema, he is not interested in SA, he is interestet in power over people.

      umlaut - 2011-06-20 10:10

      The law doesn't allow you to kill for your property, you can defend yourself and if they walk into bullets when you are in the process of defending a life or lives then its ok. They thought of all the technicallities long time ago as to make it difficult for you to protect property. One can guess about the process of the illegal one sided civil warfare taking property--A few will arrive on the farm and then they leave after you threatened them to leave or else... Then 10 min. later the police (siding with the rebels) will arrive and arrest you for pointing a fire arm as claimed by the rebels. You are taken away and the grabbers come back and take what they want-simple.(Of course you will be found guilty and sentanced to 5 years in prison and your fire arms confiscated.) Your family will be unprotected and raped and killed and the police will never investigate it or put it to book. If you resist the police it is all legal to shoot you. The only answer with the current affair is to apply for political assylum now at different embassies. The alternative is to put up a fight and remove the police from your farm and then malema's army steps in and removes all to concentration camps. Their is not going to be a 2 sided civil war. The answer is if anybody threatening you arrives On the farm, then no one must leave your farm. Pieter is right-prepare yourself now. We are already at war.

      Nasdaq7 - 2011-06-20 18:04

      james4usa why not? Do you really think we are afraid of war. We fought 40+ years against the USSR. And before that in World War 1, 2, Angola, Rhodesia, Mozambique, Zaire, Zambia, the Anglo Boer Wars, the Zulu Wars, Xhosa Wars. The US even use our mercenaries in Iraq.

  • pensioner - 2011-06-19 16:47

    Malema, you are an idiot of the first order. If you cannot understand why South Africa can no longer support itself from the food perspective let me educate you, you ignoramus. The ANC and you with your " kill the boer " tirade have chased the white farmers from the farms and most of the farms that have been given to the blacks are lying fallow. Your policy will just chase more farmers from the land and we will be on the same slippery road that your friend Mugabe has forced on Zimbabwe.

      supporter - 2011-06-20 08:40

      what does malema care, he is living of the fat from the land, so stuff the rest

  • ian.d.samson - 2011-06-19 16:48

    They may be entitled to the land that was taken from them, but only that land. They are not entitled to land that was never theirs.

      zzer0 - 2011-06-19 22:00

      true that, now many black people are from the north and not even from here.

      Izak - 2011-06-20 00:24

      Actually, they are. The problem is not solely that land has been stolen from blacks, an argument that is already very shaky because if we continue to delve further into history we find that they also "stole" it from someone else. The problem is the unequal distribution, a situation that exists solely because of apartheid. This is what needs rectifying, in other words, an attempt has to be made to restore it to what it would have been like if apartheid never happened. And that is actually a good point: if apartheid never happened, would the distribution of farmers really have been statistically proportional, or would some races just naturally prefer to farm and cause a skew? Food for thought.

      Orca - 2011-06-20 03:07

      So all the other land you took is ok? Think again, idiot.

      Anne - 2011-06-20 05:38

      Try and tell that to Juju.

      Hux - 2011-06-20 07:16

      the land was never theirs. They took it from the bushman who were here long before them.

      boerekanon - 2011-06-20 09:15

      Isn't that just their way.. Entitlement! We want, we demand, we don't want to work for anything.

      The LIon - 2011-06-20 09:33

      Please advise which land was never ours, sir Ian.

  • Calvin - 2011-06-19 16:48

    With leaders like Malema, extreme lefties and hate that permeates the black communitiy towards white people and other right winged factions mentality of pure hatred towards black peoople..this country is heading for a sure civil war!! You dont need to be a rocke scientist to figure this one out. I have long predicted that 2013 will be a year when blacks in this country and whites will be engaged in a warfare where millions will be killed, maimed, raped...ect. Its coming. I've had numerous dreams and visions of it. i think Mr Siener Van Rensburg saw it coming.

      sjkranenburg - 2011-07-10 16:29

      calvin... you need help.

  • E - 2011-06-19 16:49

    I take it he will also take black land that his rich cronies own.

  • jjacgilbert - 2011-06-19 16:51

    Give the devil what he deserves, Maleme is a very good and knowledgeable leader. Minority groups should hope for a leader like Malema, a vigilant and dedicated leader. Most of his critisism is relevant. The covernment should take heed of the youth leaque's aspirations otherwise the country will be in huge problems in less than 5 years. The Malema's of the furure will not fade away. Someone with answers to the relevant issues must come to the fore as soon as possible. Promises won't keep the restless calm for long anymore.

  • makip - 2011-06-19 16:56

    JUJU we should go 50/50.We as the ANC supporters should put into consideration that as much as we want a farming land for Africans we must also live a part of it to the pink people.We nationlaise 50% of the mines and nationalise 50% of the land.Well sometimes someone has to tell the truth.there is no country wich can sustain a strong economy without the help of others.We need one another,and taking everything from the pinkies ,it means one thing ,dragging down the ecomomy down the drain.If we want our country to be as united as the USA we have to work to together as brown,pink,mixed,asians,arabs, and others.

      sjkranenburg - 2011-07-10 16:27

      absurd... the amount of racial slurs i've seen when commenting this article has been absolutely absurd... sarcasm?

  • Dirkie - 2011-06-19 16:57

    Use it or loose it? YOU will go very hungry if you have that attitude my friend. It has been proven many times. Work together or suffer.

  • Frans - 2011-06-19 17:01

    Malema: We will take land?? At your peril if we are not paid!!! You will not be able to use it. You are playing with fire.

  • OZNOB - 2011-06-19 17:06

    JULIUS MALEMA should be made permanent ambassador to gough or marion islands

  • DIOL - 2011-06-19 17:10

    And they claim the whites are racist!!!! With leaders like this our beautiful country will no longer be. This man does not know the word democratic or the meaning of a democratic country. Please vote a pink and purple spotted leader in who has a brain before we have no country left.

  • Ntombifuthi - 2011-06-19 17:19

    I think he meant they will die trying to take land. That will be the last straw for all right minded South Africans - black and white.

  • Ndlovu - 2011-06-19 17:28

    I won't be as soft as the zimbabwean farmers! You may face my power, you may face your final destination. Thats a promis! And I am not alone! You are not a "builder" you are for sure a destroier. and that's only for personal power.. something like the Ghadafis, the Sadams, the Mubaraks the Castros aso.. but theyre time is over, fast and yours never will come! I compaired you as Melaena to South-Africa.. yes, I just think, thats the right thing.. oh you can read about in Wikipedia.

  • Tc - 2011-06-19 17:32

    We have no idea how stupid Malema is! What is even mor concerning is that he actually has so many supposedly 'intelligent' supporters!

  • alexander721 - 2011-06-19 17:33

    malema has just declared a land grab invasion as well as a buisness grab as well. he has thrown the guantlet down to the ANC leadership. He made it perfectly clear that the ANC leadership is there because of the youth league. I wonder now how much longer do we have before foreign investment goes out the window.

  • Pantsonfire - 2011-06-19 17:40

    Morons - Apartheid only came into being about 40 years after 1913. The 1913 Land Act was passed when SA was still a British colony. The restitution of land has failed BECAUSE OF THE USELESS GOVERNMENT WE HAVE, NOT WILLING BUYER WILLING SELLER. The Debt. of Land Affairs is useless and corrupt to the core. Where actual restitution has happened, the land has become unproductive and merely a home to squatters. This I can tell you from first hand experience - highly productive, previously very valuable farms in the Lowveld that have given over to communities who have NEVER harvested a crop, stipped infrastructure such as water pumps, irrigation systems and electricity supply bare and now live in shacks on some of the most prized agricultural land in our country. I can take anyone who is interested to not one, not two, but dozens of such farms. Zimbabwe here we come!

      Just Someone - 2011-06-20 12:21

      Mandela and Zuma's own family stripped all assests (illegally since it did not even belong to the mine) of the Grootvlei mine (which was in the headlines today!) Come on, two out of our 3 presidents we had has now shown what criminals their family's are. Especially Mandela...SHAME ON YOU!!!!

  • makip - 2011-06-19 17:42

    juju we love you

      Cyberscep - 2011-06-21 09:55

      you poor misguided soul - I take it that you're a budding farmer wannabe?

  • jacquesdubruyn - 2011-06-19 17:49

    How to scare investors away 101

  • Willie Botha - 2011-06-19 17:50

    I am very curious. They say here and I quote "Motlanthe said Sunday commemorated the passing of the 1913 Land Act by the apartheid government, which had "devastating consequences" for blacks." which means that according to them apartheid was already in place them. The reason why I ask is that when everyone refers to apartheid they refer to Afrikaners. But we all know who was in charge back then. Or does nobody bother to look at history ?

  • Philosopher - 2011-06-19 18:03

    Brace yourself for UN sanctions.

  • Stollie - 2011-06-19 18:18

    I don't care what colour you are, if you try to take my land, i will defend it by any means possible.

      chan chan - 2011-06-20 11:22

      and i will stand right next to you !! to protect your land is to protect our rights !! we shall stand strong together !!

      Nasdaq7 - 2011-06-20 17:05

      We will fight to the death to protect our private property. We led Zimbabwe slide so that be a warning as to what can happen. Now its war if our land, mines or banks is confiscated without compensation.

  • will294 - 2011-06-19 18:19

    They can't even manage on the land that has been given to them !

  • Happygas - 2011-06-19 18:31

    this man is MAD

  • denise.wilshire - 2011-06-19 18:35

    AHHH! JULIUS the nation builder of note!

  • phillip.havenga - 2011-06-19 18:36

    That something so pathetic and stupid can be voted into the position of the ANCYL President shows the kind of ignorant morons that that support the ANC. Julius Malema is a scourge on this country and humanity. All he does is steal oxygen and flap his fat head.

  • MrSpiderman - 2011-06-19 18:47

    Don't touch me on my land!

  • Delta Roger - 2011-06-19 18:50

    Confiscate the land Ju Ju, especially the farmlands.Then stand on the verandah,smoke a pipe,drink your beer from a calabash,watch your cattle graze, while the country starts starving. Then go with a begging bowl to the west for handouts,typical Africa.

  • M - 2011-06-19 18:54

    And then what are you going to do with the land Julius???? Surely just having it is not going to enrich anybody. God forbid that in order for the land to produce anything it will need to be worked and tended to or will you perhaps consider selling it to our new colonizers, the Chinese.

  • kappaj - 2011-06-19 19:22

    Like you shot the boer that was waiting for your at high noon???

  • Babba x - 2011-06-19 19:23

    why are all my comments being moderated?

  • Babba x - 2011-06-19 19:24

    moderate that

  • Babba x - 2011-06-19 19:24

    there are many e-mails that I can choose

  • Vee - 2011-06-19 19:43

    The ANC-regime wasn’t even hanging its head in shame when it admitted on March 31 2010 that a full ninety percent of all these state-owned land parcels, their socalled 'redistributed farms', produce no excess food whatsoever. Yet they still want more land… to do what with?

  • trainsmash - 2011-06-19 20:10

    Carry on making the statements you make malema will surely keep you in the spotlight, and with your radical sentiments you will certainly rise to power given the uneducated voters base you entertain. It is in the same way many tiranes over the world came to power. You, as a clear cut racist want to do good for your people(blacks), wich in essence is a good gesture. Unfortunately you cannot do good for one group by taking from another. That was what apartheid did and this is how you think you are goiing to fix this country? Emplying to repeat "district 6" tactics and thinking you are the saviour of your followers is worrysome. To have Winny echoing your sentiments is even more worrysome. Word of advice, do not ever underestimate the power of a minority being screwed by a power hungry mayority. You are not fit to lead anybody, and the best thing you can do for your people now is resign immediatly. With the path you(and spineles mute JZ) are sending us on there will be only losers. God forbid, when the people you want to opress come to revolt.

  • Hansie3 - 2011-06-19 20:12

    Good for you, Take productive land from productive farmers, hand it to your unproductive buddies and the famine starts. Viva Ethiopia

  • Bemused - 2011-06-19 20:40

    You guys responding with threats of war and fights are dreaming. And if you think Malema is simply making a noise you're also dreaming. He is for real with real supporters and the ANC supports him as well by the looks of it. So, get used to the idea, you WILL lose your land and you will have to share your white wealth with the previously disadvantaged. Malema is doing you a favour by letting you know in advance what the future holds.

      Nasdaq7 - 2011-06-20 17:18

      You think Malema is untouchable... that whites somehow fear the ANC. They don't. They don't. If you want, you will have war... and then you can go live on your own in your own country. Then we tried ... things your way and it didn't work. And the UN will understand. This is our land. 350 years+ we have lived here. You won't take our land from us without a fight. And then the world will separate us and give whites a democratic country of their own. So now you know in advance. It is because we are strong that we keep quiet and remain disciplined, not striking or rioting, it is not because we live in fear.

  • Dave - 2011-06-19 20:41

    Come and take this land, Mr Malema. I dare you.

  • Palian - 2011-06-19 21:12

    and we will make it hard for you to do so...impossible, in fact. think megaton hard ;)

  • Johan - 2011-06-19 21:31

    There are a lot of ways to declare war. If you want to do it this way and if you want war, go ahead. Remember, a war is not fought with a pistol hidden in your pants at a funeral but by intellectuals knowing what they do.

  • Boer - 2011-06-19 21:54

    Ja this idiot thinks his just going to walk in and take. I see a civil war coming and its going to be nasty. South Africa is not Zimbabwe to many people own land white, indian, coloured , black.

  • Bullhunter - 2011-06-19 22:02

    Get ready for WAR!!!

  • Will - 2011-06-19 22:06

    If you take without paying for something, it is called STEALING. STEALING something you think belonged to you in the first place, is still called STEALING. This pathetic government is more interested in wasting the taxpayer’s money on changing the names of places, buying weapons we don't need, lining their pockets, etc. than dealing with these truly important issues. But then again, the ANC need the desperate poor majority to believe all the nonsense they tell them before every election. Since it is still not raining fridges and stoves as promised in previous elections, I guess legalising theft might keep them loyal for another couple of elections. The new ANC and especially JuJu are a disgrace for their people. No more Mandelas, only hateful Malemas.

  • Wynand Breyt - 2011-06-19 22:06

    Is it a crime to try and organise theft and murder? If so, why would it not be a crime to urge people to steal other peoples land? After all, taking land without compensation is theft!.

  • Carol - 2011-06-19 22:22

    Take JUJU and see what happens - stupid idiot

  • Digger - 2011-06-19 22:40

    I have been working all over Africa for the past 15 yrs and I have seen first hand how these countries are run or should I say don’t run. The consequence is that the major majority of poor suffer the most. Zim is just one of many examples, ask yourself this, why were Zimbabweans still coming to SA post 1994 during apartheid. Quite simply because they had better opportunities in SA even though they were discriminated against. The black population go on and on about how badly they were treated….you should go and have a look how the rest of Africa live and what atrocities the common person faces everyday under their own totally black governments. Carry on with your support for Malema and his way of thinking and you all will live to regret the day.

  • Digger - 2011-06-19 22:42

    “Take the land back because we didn’t pay for it”. Yes I was given my house and land and everything I have because I am white….what an idiot. I have worked my whole life to achieve this and paid every dame cent. The white people suppressed blacks, well just look back to the beginning when we first arrived here in our boats from across the oceans….at what level of development was Africa at? So yes we took advantage of a less developed ruling nation, well that’s been going on for generations in fact from the beginning of recorded time. Even in Africa it’s self. So why don’t you all just stop blaming everyone else for your lack of development and just thank us for what we’ve given you and try and learn from us? Why not up your game and work with us so together we can help each other to improve ourselves as individual and as a nation? I will tell you why, because it will never change and Africa will always just be Africa. Follow like sheep.

  • Liezel Bohdanowicz - 2011-06-19 22:53

    bye bye investors, bye bye South Africa, HELLO poverty you've NEVER seen before.....