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Khoza unperturbed by Manyi attack

2012-04-10 12:03

Johannesburg - Nedbank Group [JSE:NED] chairperson Reuel Khoza appeared unperturbed on Tuesday by attacks on him by government spokesperson Jimmy Manyi, saying debate heightened awareness of society's needs.

"We live in a wonderful country with a vibrant democracy," said Khoza after Manyi accused him of "disingeneousness" for suggesting that South Africa's political leaders were not up to the complexity of 21st century governance and leadership.

"In a participatory democracy, debate and discussion on substantive issues heighten awareness of the many needs we have to address in the socioeconomic, business and political spheres, which are vital for society as a whole," said Khoza in a statement.

"I firmly believe that leadership in the public and private sectors working constructively together can make a positive contribution. Part of my life's mission as a citizen and a business leader is, in a small way, to contribute to the upliftment of South Africa and help achieve a better life for all."

Earlier, Manyi hit out at Khoza for his "attack" on government.

He said comments Khoza had made which accompanied the bank's annual results showed "disingenuousness, and that his books aren't exactly balanced".

In the report, released last month, Khoza said the country's "strange breed" of leadership needed to adhere to the institutions that underpinned democracy.

"Our political leadership's moral quotient is degenerating and we are fast losing the checks and balances that are necessary to prevent a recurrence of the past," Khoza wrote.

In response, Manyi wrote: "It would help if Dr Khoza were to expand on his allegations and tell us exactly which checks and balances are being lost 'fast' and which recurrence of the past - and which past - he fears so much."

Manyi also questioned Khoza's negativity considering the annual results document pack had an overview reflecting a significantly more positive, or at least expectant, disposition among management.

"Given Dr Khoza's putative concern about the state of levels of public accountability, it is only fair to ask to what extent his statement reflects the views of the illustrious and diverse board which now includes eminent champions of transformation.... or is he out on a lone frolic," said Manyi.

Manyi's missive follows similar responses from African National Congress secretary general Gwede Mantashe and Police Minister Nathi Mthethwa last week.

 

Comments
  • Christopher - 2012-04-10 12:10

    Khoza for president!!!

      Christopher - 2012-04-10 12:15

      He employs people in his business (thousands upon thousnads), he educates people(thousands upon thousands), he uplifts communities all without the help of the government as we can see. The government is fighting indsutry that creates positivty in South Africa..

      Gerald - 2012-04-11 11:25

      His view is spot on and its good to act. But surely its more efficient to sort out his own house first. In my few yrs in the 24 / village walk buzz, most Nedders you meet complained of blatantly racist mngmnt inside "135". The stories!!!

  • Andre - 2012-04-10 12:20

    Right now the cANCer will attempt to STOP anyone, from all walks, from making statements that FACTUALLY show up the faults within this DESEASED flock of fools! How this bunch have plundered the cash reserves and NEVER found guilty is beyond me. Catch a huge wake-up cANCer mongers... you never know whats around the corner!

  • Shirley - 2012-04-10 12:25

    Khoza was hitting too close to home! Manyi is just another cadre,bleeding the cash cow dry! Khoza must watch his back-strange things happen to people who speak the truth!

      Terry - 2012-04-10 12:34

      You have hit the nail on the head.... Terry

  • Ishmael - 2012-04-10 12:30

    This current ANC guys are complete idiots..their level of stupidity,arrogance, corruption and ignorance makes Idi Amin looks so much better than this guys. Our country is a joke now because of guys like Manyi and his corrupt cronies..

  • watsongeorgejan - 2012-04-10 12:30

    Heaven help us, if one Mr Manyi thinks he's a beacon of astute leadership then we're in serious trouble....

  • Phumi - 2012-04-10 12:30

    Khoza is another stumbling block to transformation and economic freedom for our people! He has elevated himself to be a self-apointed spokesperson of white mpnopoly capital. Those who have forgotten where they come from like Ruel will be reminded by when we take back the cosy jobs we borrowed them through our progressive policies!

      Foc - 2012-04-10 12:53

      Phumi I just hope YOU dont get that job!! I will close my account so quickly you wont even see it!! Your comment is laughable ... first you WANT blacks in top jobs ... and now that they have it you threaten to 'take back the cosy jobs we borrowed them' .... wtf??? And btw who is this 'WE' you referring to??

      Herman - 2012-04-10 13:03

      phumi, you must be one of the dumbest people ever to comment on N24, wow

      Shirley - 2012-04-10 13:14

      One question-do you have the slightest clue how to do ANY of those cosy jobs?? Judging by your comment I think NOT!

      shauncro - 2012-04-10 14:22

      Phumi, please could you define Economic Freedom? I hear this phrase thrown around alot and yet no one can actually say what it means. Are you saying that you want everything for free? Sure sounds like it!

      Hettie - 2012-04-13 09:20

      YES PHUMI YOU ARE EXACTLY WHAT DR. KHOZA IS SPEAKING ABOUT. NO BRAIN TO RULE A COUNTRY. YOU JUST WANT TO TAKE.NEVER A THOUGHT ABOUT WHAT IS REALY GOING ON IN THIS COUNTRY,THE COW IS RUNNING DRY. JIMMY MANYI IS AN IGNORANT RACIST THAT DONT DESERVE A JOB AS SPOKESPERSON.HELL MY GRANDDAUGHTER CAN DO A BETTER JOB IN THAT POSITION. MAYBE YOU ARE STILL UNDER THE IMPRESSION THAT IF THE MONEY DRIES UP WE JUST PRINT MORE. MY DREAM IS TO TEACH THE YOUNG THAT YOU DONT GET RESPECT THAT YOU DONT EARN,AND WORK HARD FOR THE THINGS YOU WANT IN LIFE,DONT SIT BACK AND SAY I DESERVE IT BECAUSE I AM PREVIOUSLY DISADVANTAGED. GET A LIFE WE ARE LONG PAST THAT SITUATION. DONT THREATEN PEOPLE THAT DO THEIR JOB AND TELL IT AS IT IS.

  • Eddy - 2012-04-10 12:36

    Khoza and Manyi are old associates but there the similarities end. Manyi is a racist ANC lap dog spin doctor employed by the propaganda department of the ANC that Goebels of NAZI Germany would be proud of. Khoza is creating a positive future for all in South Africa and is the new but rare breed of individuals that we need. Manyi and his elk are history. Time for more VIP Africans to speak the truth about the failed ANC.

  • Buhle - 2012-04-10 12:48

    Don't be Mr. Khoza. Manyi just wants you to be a lap dog just like him, sies on Jimmy

  • Judith - 2012-04-10 13:01

    Manyi is a loud mouthed spin doctor who's never done an honest day's work in his life. Is he still drawing two salaries - one from government and one from the Black Management Forum?

  • roberta.keeling - 2012-04-10 13:22

    Good for you Khoza. Any fool can be a member of parliament in a nice cosy protected job. It takes someone with some intelligence to make a success in business.

  • Kabelo - 2012-04-10 13:38

    Khosa we need more people like u in this country.people who a not scared. Manyi mr Khosa he is black and proud SA. the way he coment it shows that he is a true comunity builder.MANYI we dnt need u I wish dat ZUMA lose at mangaung so that the new leadership could replace u with some1 with braine in his head.shame on u

  • phumlani.mbatha - 2012-04-10 13:42

    thought this was a place to engage in decent debate about issues and not people. when you spend time discussing people, its merely waste of time.

      Andrew - 2012-04-10 13:54

      It is difficult not to make comment when a person tells it like it is and then is critized by an inept government who do not engage with their electorate but look after their own interests.

  • shauncro - 2012-04-10 14:20

    WOW! His reply had far more intellectual value than the retaliation by Manyi. Someone please vote this man into presidency!

  • Lerato - 2012-04-10 14:24

    \In a participatory democracy, debate and discussion on substantive issues heighten awareness of the many needs we have to address in the socioeconomic, business and political spheres, which are vital for society as a whole,\ said Khoza in a statement.  \r\n \r\nI agree with the learned Dr on this one, we must freely debate about bridging the gap in SA, freely discuss nationalisation !!!!!!

  • Andricca - 2012-04-10 16:23

    Khoza is a puppet and a lackey for white capital, nothing more or less of him. This are liberals who neva accepted post=1994 democratic change, always on the hunt for faults to justify its course which run parallel against the ongoing government's transformation program while abusing our transformative and progressive constitution by reducing it to some dogmatic concession hymn book that is fashionably used by conservative & right-wing liberals to deter change. They will do anything, including paying the highest price to rubbish progressive government as incompetent whether with valid or invalid reasons it does not matter, the role is to forever and consistently hunt down mistakes from 1994 democratic breakthrough and "expose" such for the world to see how pathetic ANC is running the country. They will fail as they can't fool all of us. Real change will not come walking by the park, but will include real pain, compromises and tough decisions and South Africa is yet to experience real change. Khoza must stop observing from a distance and lead by example. ANC is not perfect and must not be expected to be so. you only correct when you give a balanced view & not an emotionally charged one sided story mr. khoza

      thepatrickwinter - 2012-04-11 06:07

      I feel it won't be long before you eat your words, though I feel we will all feel the pain from the rift that will come from lack of effective governance. Everyone's quality of life is alot worse off today than it has ever been - dark days lie ahead. Only the really optimistic will disagree. We should count our blessings for everyday.

  • Ninon - 2012-04-11 09:04

    I would guess that Mr. Manyi has been overseas on loong leave if he does not know what Mr Khoza is talking about. Mind you,he does spin a lot and get paid for doing that.

  • Bethuel - 2012-04-11 09:38

    It is sad that the ANC has not comne to terms with our immediate past. For your information Dr Khoza has been involved in academic matters for some time before embarking in business. He shared a stage with Clem Santer on the Scenario planning that saw the emergence of the current politcal scene and correctly predicted the release of political prisoners.Dr Khoza ran a series of lectures amid threats of detention by the then government. But he did not falter, he went on to encourage us to learn as much as we can so that when the new RSA dawns we should be in a position to make a positive contribution to the upliftment of our people and the country at large. Gwede/Manyi and the idiot Mthetwa, I have news for you : Dr Khoza is not a coward and he will never surrender to idle stupid threats especially coming from you guys. You have proved to be a disgrace to the liberation of our people and I am afraid if you don't listen to Dr Khoza's wise words (and similar advise from Kader Asmal; Nelson Mandela; Luthuli etc), that is going to be the end of the ANC. Eish what a pity!!!!!!

  • Bongani - 2012-04-12 12:19

    Khoza cant be perturbed because he is a leader. His response proves that he is a leader. The \other leaders\ resort to name calling. Great leaders think before they speak,they dont respond hastily. Khoza keep up the good work and dont play the man play the game. Democracy

      Hettie - 2012-04-13 09:51

      Bongani and Bethuel this was so well said i have to give you full marks S.A. need more people like you to call the shots.HEY YOU HAVE MADE MY DAY.

  • George - 2012-04-13 16:51

    So he should be. He, who creates wealth everyday for shareholders (and the gov through tax) was addressing the idle non-performers in government (by no means everyone) who leach on the rest of society, SCAMRAL being the latest example. Hopefully this is only the opening salvo from business. I think that is why the ruckus; to keep the rest in line?!

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