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Cosatu: Govt jumping gun on e-tolls

2012-10-04 12:29

Cape Town - Government would be "jumping the gun" if it announced e-tolling was to go ahead in Gauteng, Cosatu said on Thursday.

Should it do so, the federation's opposition campaign would shift "back into top gear", including its members taking to the streets, Congress of SA Trade Unions spokesperson Patrick Craven told Sapa.

The inter-ministerial committee (IMC) on the Gauteng Freeway Improvement Project is set to announce on Friday exactly how e-tolling - which has provoked massive opposition from motorists and residents of South Africa's economic heartland - will work.

"The committee will be making an announcement on Friday, on how the e-tolls will be implemented," spokesperson Thabo Masebe said on Wednesday.

"The committee has been meeting various concerned parties since last week and we are concluding discussions this week," he said.

Deputy President Kgalema Motlanthe chairs the IMC.

Masebe said it was possible to have a solution that satisfied everyone, as the government and relevant parties were much closer after the consultations than earlier this year.

There was general agreement on the user-pays principle, he said.

On Thursday, Craven said Cosatu did not support the user-pays principle, and that e-tolls were the wrong way to raise money for the country's freeway systems.

He said a task team, set up by Cosatu and the ANC, was still investigating the matter.

"The absurd thing is we have a meeting with them (the IMC) tomorrow (Friday), on the same day as the announcement. Let's hope this works out... but it looks like someone has blundered," he said.

Craven repeated a call for the public not to buy e-tags, and noted there were "huge numbers of people, beyond Cosatu" who were opposed to e-tolling.

Responding to questions on what action Cosatu will take should government announce e-tolling is to go ahead, Craven said: "Our campaign of opposition will be back into top gear... we will take to the streets."

He added: "Let's hope they hold back."


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Comments
  • maree.cassie - 2012-10-04 12:34

    I will not buy an e-tag!!!!

      squeegee.pilot - 2012-10-04 12:39

      Govt is just drooling as it sees $ signs...

      ianon.ym - 2012-10-04 13:00

      You want to destroy something COSATU, destroy e-Toll :)

      alan.gernet - 2012-10-04 13:03

      No register - no pay. Roads are national assets and affect the entire country. It's highly unfair to burden a portion of the population in the powerhouse of the economy, who have no choice in the matter of the building and pricing of the roads. Aslo it makes ZERO sense to have an infrastructure for collections which more than doubles the cost of the roads. So, very sorry ANC ... but this is corruption and extortion at it's worst. Count me out! And really - how about using the reported 21 Million that taxpayers are allegedly funding for the upgrade of our esteemed president's private house at Nkandla? If the top dog acts in a certain manner, it gives license to all the others below him to emulate him. hmmmm! I am 100% with Cosatu on this one - I will fight this corruption with every fibre of my being!!

      rbphiri - 2012-10-04 13:30

      I will rather buy a ticket to hell than a butthole e-tag. Cosatu rather leave the tripartie alliance and let these thieves fend for themselves during elections...SIMPLE. But on the other hand this e-toll thing is a go initiative, that way voters in Gauteng will wake up and see what thieving rubbish they voting for. DON'T VOTE ANC!!!

      rob.gunning.1 - 2012-10-04 13:35

      They will make you.

      Willie - 2012-10-04 13:35

      They always jump the gun

      konstabel.koekemoer - 2012-10-04 13:43

      If we give in to e-tolling the government will take that as a signal that they can toll more roads all accross the country and to also start charging for other services that are supposed to be funded from tax revenue. So this is much bigger then just the GFIP.

  • ditantane.kganakga - 2012-10-04 12:35

    COSATU has no power, period.

      alan.gernet - 2012-10-04 13:06

      If Cosatu takes to the streets on this one, they will have many many others joining them. THis is going to be the straw that breaks the Govt's back. Their arrogance has got themselves into this mess, and unless they back down completely, they are in for the fight of fights. There is no way that the Govt can continue to dictate against an unwilling poplation. They have proved their incompetence, and now it's payday coming up.

  • wikus.schalkwyk - 2012-10-04 12:35

    Take the RED pill... let's see how far the rabbit hole goes.

      lelanie.prinsloo - 2012-10-04 12:49

      lol.... u must have watched The Matrix on DSTV the past week/weekend. :)

      wikus.schalkwyk - 2012-10-04 13:51

      actually no... it's always in my mind, somewhere between the other stuff

  • arm.witmens - 2012-10-04 12:41

    Screw the anc and screw e-toll.

  • hugo.smith2 - 2012-10-04 12:50

    The gov just gave SAA another 5 Bil loan Garantee, but we have to pay toll-they cannot control any Money, Yet they want more-With the current Fuel price people will suffer- I say we stay off the highways, take the alternative roads, clog that up, come late for work and the whole economy will suffer-if the Mineworkers and Truck drivers can do it, why not us? the people that have travel these highways-that we have alreday paid for through the road levy ofn every Liter of Fuel that you buy-Which prob will fund the loan to SAA-

  • Gerhard Barnard - 2012-10-04 12:51

    The goverment have raised the fuel price for the repair and build of new roads and they want e toll!!!!where does all our money go????but they can fund taxis.thats why they dont bother about the price hike!!!

  • Klaus - 2012-10-04 12:53

    Motlanthe and his fellow Cadres needs this Austrian X-mas Bonus Badly, presents have been ordered, need to be paid for,

  • hugo.smith2 - 2012-10-04 12:56

    No wonder everyone wants to strike, they need money to pay for all the addiotnal cost that Gov wants-Toll, Fuel, Electricity etc. It is really going to kill this country-We are tired of just being forced to pay! And Gov cannot control the money! Arab spring will come to this country!

  • johan.jacobs.5680 - 2012-10-04 13:02

    This is a dilemma for the ANC alliance.

  • shaun.theron.902 - 2012-10-04 13:02

    Stop Moaning people. Just pay up! If not you will be shot for disobeying the Ruling Party.

      pieriewaaier.zooms - 2012-10-04 14:12

      That must be a tongue in the cheek, right? Reminds me of Stalin & Hitler - the Gulag or concentration camps if you are lucky, otherwise just shot on the spot. But one thing the ANC can learn from Hitler - although I detest the man and everyhting he stood for - is that 'Arbeit macht Frei', which slogan welcomed all those Jewish and opponents to his regime at the concentration camps. But in essence it's true because a good day's work does set you free because you earn your living, good and honestly. But with this government it's just the opposite: Screw the honest hard working people in every way possible and dump the poor and struggling in the cesspool of poor education and unemployment, keep them illiterate and they will continue to support us, the ANC. VIVA ANC! VIVA ILLITERACY! VIVA UNEMPLOYMENT!

  • tshepo.mogamisi - 2012-10-04 13:04

    They want to use the argument of the system being in use and too expensive to stop it in court again

  • BigChiefPlumbPudding - 2012-10-04 13:07

    Jumping the gun or not - we won't be buying e-tags. Try and understand this.

  • The-Azanian - 2012-10-04 13:08

    What's the difference between Cosatu and ANC? I'm confused, last week JZ was congratulating cosatu leaders on re-election, and cosatu was defending JZ on spears project...now they pretend to be fighting for the benefit of citizens when in public. Seriously, this days flushing your vote in a toilet is better than voting for any political party...as soon as you vote them in the switch their pre-election mandate to their famous personal enriching mandate in a speed of light.

      Tshilidzi Wa Ha Mukhovha - 2012-10-04 13:47

      These vexes me

  • hleketanitrevor.baloyi - 2012-10-04 13:10

    Its SARS this side,,E-Toll this side,,fuel this side,,,tjo tjo tjo no way to Run they want our money this Godzillas one way.

  • dewaldmontgomery - 2012-10-04 13:10

    Cosatu, the solution is in your hands, actually. Simply threathen to withhold your vote come the next general elections, and see how they respond... Either that, your very own support base isn't what you think.

  • luke.dekoker - 2012-10-04 13:18

    Wow!! Kgalema Motlanthe & his click IMC memebers have a meeting with the opposition campaigner tomorrow (Friday),on the same day as the announcement... Typical anc tactics??? I am 100% with Cosatu on this one & I will not buy an e-tag..sue me!!

  • carolyn.myburgh - 2012-10-04 13:24

    General agreement on users pay (says who) we would all hock our houses to pay for this and government will be exempt no bloody likely!!!!!

      konstabel.koekemoer - 2012-10-04 13:34

      The only ones who supposedly agreed were the 'religious leaders' whoever they are. Not sure what churches they represent but I suspect they were promised a big donation for their support.

  • leonard.rom.7 - 2012-10-04 13:25

    let me guess if we don't pay we will pay more on petrol

      konstabel.koekemoer - 2012-10-04 13:37

      You'll pay more on fuel in any case. The revenue that e-tolling will generate will be gobbled up by administration of the tolling system. So with e-toll you pay double.

      alan.gernet - 2012-10-04 13:59

      more on petrol is fairest - we could do away with the additional 'collection' fees and halve the bill, and as roads are NATIONAL, it is fairest to pay more if you use the roads more via the fuel price.

  • Teuneman - 2012-10-04 13:25

    It should be broadcast on the news when and where the marches will be.

      alan.gernet - 2012-10-04 14:00

      whaahaa - don't worry - Cosatu will make the toll roads unusable. Anybody trying to use the roads would probably get stones or petrol bombed.

  • sonia.bloem - 2012-10-04 13:25

    No to E-toll!!! No way that any of us needs to buy these e-tags!!! We already pay a massive amount on fuel!! Open your eyes government, you are gonna kill you country by over prizing us!!!!

      alan.gernet - 2012-10-04 14:01

      and second prize goes to.....

  • Vanman1979 - 2012-10-04 13:27

    SAA - R5 billion Gaurantee; Zuma House - R203 million. Levies on feul and now they want this. Well maybe they will use this money to pay for Zuma's house. For once I support COSATU fully.

  • pkgotlaeng - 2012-10-04 13:32

    Myself the only solution that I'll be happy for is to scrap the whole thing (E-Tool) (i.e A tool that is going to be used to steal my money). Or if I can pay R0.00 per KM "He said a task team, set up by Cosatu and the ANC, was still investigating the matter" I hope there wont be any brown evelopes under the table to shut up this COSATU task team. This govmnt is just arrogant and Wena Mr Motlanthe if u wanna be in my good books, just get the hell out that Inter-Mistarious Corruption (IMC) of your, or tell them to scrap the whole thing.

  • tshidiso.mathang - 2012-10-04 13:57

    Ok people we know what to do come 2014, Bishop Tutu said it long time ago that this government does represent the will of the people, I'm asking again where are the Economic freedom Fighters???

      alan.gernet - 2012-10-04 14:20

      What exactly does an "Economic Freedom Fighter' mean? What does an EFF propose to achieve, and how would it work? To date I have never had a single troll who can answer this. They just quiety disappear.... LMML

  • marc.rule - 2012-10-04 14:00

    I will not buy an e-tag!!!! I will not pay for this cr@p E-toll!!! I WILL join the protest on the streets!!!! The cANCer can KISS MY …………!!!!!!

  • jola.jose.7 - 2012-10-04 14:00

    My solution is to vote anc and cosatu out in 2014,vavi and his cosatu is just playing with people's mind

  • teresa.strauss.39 - 2012-10-04 14:05

    Correction Alan its R203M. e-Toll and a petrol price from hell, how are we supposed to get to work?

      alan.gernet - 2012-10-04 14:23

      well - as a Govt the roads have to be paid for, but there is no need to pay double now because of Toll collection. I sincerely hope that all the 'dirty washing' comes out in the Nov court case. I have zero doubt that the whole illogical move to Toll Roads is backed up by mega corruption.

  • kasper.mbayi2 - 2012-10-04 14:06

    Nothing can satisfy our greedy government. The greediness is deep in their blood.

      alan.gernet - 2012-10-04 14:25

      Ya think??? Lok at Joyce Banda in Malawi - she has taken a 30% paycut as a gesture to the por and suffering population there. Yet here at Nkandla ... 203 Mil for the soon to be ex-presidents private home?? Tax payers money??? Is this the reward for ripping off and corrupting a nation? Time for our very own Arab Spring.....

  • teresa.strauss.39 - 2012-10-04 14:09

    Please note the silence from Malema. Has he got a toll free card?

      alan.gernet - 2012-10-04 14:26

      He is looking for his 'Get out of Jail Free' card

  • vernon.samuel.7 - 2012-10-04 14:13

    I smell a dirty stinking rotting rat here. The ANC and Cosatu are one and the same. They have each other's back, as it were. The way I see it, the ANC knows that there is widespread anger over tolls. So they have despatched Cosatu to lead the revolt. Remember Marikana? When Cosatu lost control of the strike, the workers turned violent and got their way. And the ANC/Cosatu had egg on their face. So now the ANC is using Cosatu to lead the revolt. Once the anger has simmered down, Cosatu will step forward and claim victory for the motorists in having the toll fee reduced. Meanwhile, they will be punting a figure that will be acceptable to the ANC. Never trust a union that claims to speak for the worker, but in reality is in a nice mutually-beneficial relationship with the ruling party. This is a conflict of interests to end all conflicts of interests.

      crracker.crackerr - 2012-10-04 14:32

      @ vernon samuel With respect, your comment sums it up perfectly.

      talana.malherbe - 2012-10-04 14:50

      I agree 100% vernon

      alan.gernet - 2012-10-04 15:32

      yeah - but Vavi is nototious for changing his mind like the wind. As soon as he picks up a new idea, he voices it as it it was his own. But make no mistake - Cosatu is very anti the toll roads, and politically they are gaining a hugs amount of support against the anc by their stance on the corrupt tolling.

      vernon.samuel.7 - 2012-10-04 16:40

      I don't know what to make of Vavi. But I am sure that he knows where his bread is buttered. Holomisa, Lekota, Shilowa, Malema and others thought that they were too big for the ANC and their new careers generally bombed. I also have my doubts about Cosatu and the tolls. If they were so against the tolls, why have dual-purpose marches against the tolls and labour-brokering? That tells me that they are using the tolls to gain public sympathy, while fighting against their pet-hate labour-brokers. This is politics at its best (or worst, if you are the SA public).

  • coenraad.vaneeden.5 - 2012-10-04 14:52

    Push the unions out in the cold like the miners they have seen right through them we must stop e_ toll our self cosatu must learn not to think that we are fools

  • jack.schnitzer.1 - 2012-10-04 15:34

    We are on an economic convoy with Zimbabwe

  • jack.schnitzer.1 - 2012-10-04 15:35

    We are on an economic convoy with Zimbabwe, its just that we are too behind but on the way.

  • Bluemoscow - 2012-10-04 16:21

    The D.A is going to get tired of fighting for people who don't want to be helped. The ANC Wants the e-tolls to go ahead people will complain voting times till going to vote for Anc. Arg freedom fighters are going to get fed up of people who dont want to meet them half way. The Anc is using the before 1994 apartheid crap to brainwash old people and the uneducated thats why whatever they do, corruption inflation petrol increase those fools are still going to get votes. Thats why our education system is a mess and hard to complete so the will be more dumb people to vote for them.Never will there be tablets and computers in public schools or something to make kid excited about school.

  • Nancy Zhu - 2012-10-04 17:41

    Gov is misleading. Why do we have to pay road tax when we fill up petrol and still need to pay e-toll? This was never an issue in SA history.

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