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Chabane: Toll decisions will affect future

2012-05-04 12:22

Cape Town - Decisions taken on the Gauteng Freeway Improvement Project (GFIP) will have implications for how future infrastructure projects are financed, Minister of Performance Monitoring and Evaluation Collins Chabane said on Friday.

It was necessary to guard against decisions and actions that might impact negatively "on our track record in the prudent management of government finances", he told reporters after cabinet's regular fortnightly meeting.

Chabane was speaking in Pretoria, and the briefing was relayed via a video link to Cape Town.

He said the government has to act responsibly, and ensure it and state-owned enterprises (SOEs) honour their financial obligations timeously.

"Government must also ensure that nothing compromises the huge infrastructure programme which is crucial for raising the level of South Africa's economic growth, and for raising the standard of living of citizens, especially the poor and unemployed."

Chabane said the government understood the concerns and issues raised by South Africans regarding e-tolling. This was why it had gone some way to provide relief to motorists by making R5.75bn available to the SA National Roads Agency Limited (Sanral).

Cabinet had appointed a special committee to be chaired by Deputy President Kgalema Motlanthe to co-ordinate all work around the GFIP. Committee members included the ministers of transport, finance, public enterprises, Chabane himself, and the director general in the presidency.

The committee would, among other things, move rapidly to ensure Sanral's financial stability was not affected in any way.

"The committee will assess government's response to the North Gauteng (Pretoria) High Court ruling and other related matters."

It would also meet appropriate stakeholders to find constructive solutions and consensus on the outstanding matters.

"Government would also like to reiterate that the R20bn investment in the GFIP which started in 2007 will benefit the residents and the economy of Gauteng, which is the major driver of national economic activity," Chabane said.

 

Comments
  • Gieljam - 2012-05-04 12:31

    Off course it will that's why they should not have made such a costly autocratic mistake in the past..'

      Oneant - 2012-05-04 12:59

      Let me rephrase that: "Decisions taken on the Arrest and Prosecution of corrupt Cabinet Ministers and their departments will have implications for how taxpayers will allow their money to be spent. " i.e. get bent Minister.

      Mhlonso - 2012-05-04 15:02

      The bad thing is Giving Scelo Shiceka a state funeral.

  • koos.vandermerwe.92 - 2012-05-04 12:32

    Then government should be more responsible with their spending. They should take action against the blatant wastage and plunder of our, the taxpayers money.

      Adri - 2012-05-04 22:07

      The minister of social development has admitted in parliament that an amount of more than R40.8bn has been siphoned off illegally from social grants by public servants between August 2009 and December 2011.It seems to me the tax payers have already paid twice for the complete Gauteng Freeway Improvement Project and still the government demands more.

  • thebe.tau - 2012-05-04 12:33

    The government must sell all their parastatals and recover all our tax money, let them be run by more competent bussinesmen, by doing so they can have a lot of money to cover every cost and also save more.

  • spookhuis - 2012-05-04 12:38

    If the government stops the leaks in the social benefits program they can pay back the loans in no time at all.

  • Victor - 2012-05-04 12:39

    You guys made the wrong decisions in the first place so don,t blame us the tax payers !!!!!!!!

  • sandile.memela1 - 2012-05-04 12:41

    Blah blah blah, they should have thought about that before all of this. They never fullyconsalte the public they just thought they can just bulldoze their ways and forc the public to oblige. This government has forgotten who the south African people are and what are why they voted in power. If they keep this up, (stealing manipulating

  • Michele - 2012-05-04 12:42

    "t was necessary to guard against decisions and actions that might impact negatively "on our track record in the prudent management of government finances"," R14 billion in one year missing due to corruption and "wasteful" expenditure. Sir, there is sweet blow all prudent about government expenditure.

  • pat.bromilowdowning - 2012-05-04 12:42

    It was necessary to guard against decisions and actions that might impact negatively "on our track record in the prudent management of government finances"!!!!!! What is this guy smoking?

  • planetdonovan - 2012-05-04 12:43

    Citizens would like to reiterate that strangling the economy in Gauteng, which is the major driver of national economic activity, is directly detrimental to the government. Jackass.

  • brionyl.french - 2012-05-04 12:45

    stop trying to scare South Africans... you did this you pay for it, Use the 51 billion from the indians... when one does the budget and says so much will be used for infrastructure... nowhere has any minister said that they needed to steel money from the pensions... they should have allocated money correctly... Sorry but this entire cabinet in parliment is corrupt and they all need to pay for their mistakes in thinking they are above the law

  • Andrew - 2012-05-04 12:47

    The ANC should have thought about this at the beginning. Oh I forgot they did not want to diclose who were the beneficiaries. Typical corrupt bastards. Don't blame anyone but yourselves for the utter debarcle but that is tha ANC's style. Bunch of liers and cheats.

      Brian - 2012-05-04 12:57

      Don't give a liar and cheat a bad name by comparing them to these wastrels and clowns.

  • Greg - 2012-05-04 12:52

    The saying in Afrikaans is as follows: "AS JY DOM WIL WEES MOET JY SUKKEL"

  • pupuru - 2012-05-04 12:57

    where were risk assesors on this project to deal with this kind of situation so that gov can plan for it? realy intriquing

  • Tumisang - 2012-05-04 13:02

    In agreement with the minister The decision to scrap etool gates was in fact incorrect, Gauteng people wanted a first class infrastructure and like Gautrain and widened highways now the government has delivered they want the entire country including the poor of the poorest to fund their infrastructure through vat, why must a poor person in the rural area be forced to pay the R20bn for upgrading of roads in Gauteng, No person should increase my income tax, the users of the roads should pay for it through etolls.

      Don.Tandy - 2012-05-04 13:11

      I agree Tumisang - what I cannot and will not accept is the bullying tactics that SANRAL adopted to make us buy an e-tag. They screwed up big time by installing a system that is fundamentally unworkable, then tried to force the issue with their 11th hour announcement that non E-tag users would be charged at six times the going rate. By taking that step, they sealed their own demise.

      chris.shield - 2012-05-04 13:28

      Because that poor person gets his social grant from the PAYE that some Gautenger pays every month... The government has neglected important infrastructure for 18 years, if they'd maintained and widened the roads as and when necessary over that time we wouldn't be in this situation in the first place....

      Olive - 2012-05-04 13:49

      Tumisang, I don't think u a having a car or planning to buy one in future, road users are paying every year for using the roads and the petrol is going up everyday, now are the tollgates, we cannot afford period.

      Adri - 2012-05-04 22:16

      The minister of social development has admitted in parliament that an amount of more than R40.8bn has been siphoned off illegally from social grants by public servants between August 2009 and December 2011.It seems to me the tax payers have already paid twice for the complete Gauteng Freeway Improvement Project and still the government demands more

      Anton - 2012-05-13 06:37

      Tumisang. SANRAL estimates that there are about 1 million users daily of the Gauteng highways each driving on average 25km per day. A car burns about 1 liter of fuel every 10 km. That is 2.5 liters per user per day. In total 2.5 million liters of fuel per day. 750 million liters a year. Currently the tax portion of the petrol price is R2/liter. R1 500 million per year that is contributed towards the central treasury from these users of the highways in Gauteng. Now if they used that fuel on a road say in KZN, then that money or portions of it will be used to maintain the KZN road. But now, just because it is in Gauteng and the Government is telling you Gauteng users have to pay for the roads they use. You regard it as fair that Gauteng users throw R 1500 million into the central reserve without getting anything for it. On top of that you expect them to first throw in another R125 million (tax) into that central fund before they are able to pay the R188 million toll fees per month to pay for the use of their roads. In total pay R312 million to use Gautneg highways. While the rest of the country pay for their roads out of the central fund.

  • Mike Purchase - 2012-05-04 13:12

    Hehehe its all a damn joke so let the clowns pay for their bugger up.If you are too thick to manage something give it to someone who can.

  • Loo - 2012-05-04 13:13

    "Toll Decisions will affect future" Really !!!!??? Us citizens have known that since the time the dead sea was only just sick dude

  • dedeekay - 2012-05-04 13:38

    dey sat in their big fancy leather chairs n decided dey r going to spend 10bl in fixing roads dat were not even dat bad,nw dey must take dey fat asses back der n find ways to pay dat money back n leave tax payers out of it.

  • Olive - 2012-05-04 13:41

    Was the government waiting for e-tolling issue to go to court before they understand people's concern.The government was not prepared to listen to people's cry until the court interferes.

  • FeebleGastro - 2012-05-04 13:58

    "on our track record in the prudent management of government finances" Nonsense. Blatant lie. What is left once you're done stealing you mismanage big time. And are you threatening us with "implications"? What implications? Like you lot refusing to govern any more?

  • thepatrickwinter - 2012-05-04 14:20

    I wonder if any of these ministers ever read what and how their taxpayers feel about their work performance. The appraisal system is also broken.

  • Mart - 2012-05-04 14:45

    Will those in the cabinet who are above reproach in terms of, responsibility to the people, the required prudence when spending the country's money and helping themselves to whatever is not nailed down, please stand up!. Didn't think so....all sitting comfortably on their size 48 butts.....we don't have the best government in Africa. but we certainly have the heaviest/ most obese.

  • Chien-Teng - 2012-05-04 14:49

    Dear minister, You shouldn't have placed "on our track record in the prudent management of government finances" and "state-owned enterprises (SOEs)" implied or otherwise in the same briefing. People are gatvol of the extreme wastefulness of the ministers and the unethical and morally questionable CEOs of the SOEs performances. And don't tell us that it is the government's policy and it is the ministerial handbooks guidelines. Use some common sense!!! Now back to GFIP issues: 1). You CANNOT further tax people on the existing infrastructures because they have been financed already from people's purse 2). You CANNOT tell people just deal with it because we don't get the ministerial budget and live off tax payers money while you and you fellow ministers get provided for almost everything and you (the ministers) have accomplished almost next to nothing to show for 3). The GFIP was approved (at least the first phase) because of the world cup. Use the revenues generated to afford some of these money making luxuries that some of your pals are pocketing 4). LISTEN to the public. The public has a lot more of brain to actually think of better ways to i). plan for the project, ii). source the materials and the workforce, iii). come up with viable finances for the projects. You ministers don't know jack, and your advisers (employed and or outsourced) may not know all the answers and solutions. 5). Taxes collected are for the country and not for the ANC

  • Flynn - 2012-05-04 14:55

    Toll decisions will affect future - no ways. When the yearly budgets are being set by the top people of SA, the roads should be part of the budget. Whoever in the government authorized the toll system should be put in jail.

  • Christopher - 2012-05-04 15:39

    chabane he is talking_______.

  • Florence - 2012-05-04 16:18

    The only language this government understands is fire with fire, forceful resistance. They wldn't have considered our outcry. This was a done deal, the Manyi's of this world arrogantly enforced a 'though shall' principle as they were looking forward to their cuts.

  • zipho500 - 2012-05-04 16:45

    U just don't get it,do u Mr minister? I ain't paying no toll!

  • brainbowgold - 2012-05-04 19:22

    Really...

  • Siphokazi - 2012-05-04 20:08

    'Toll decisions will affect future'. S'true, the beneficiaries future is being affected. Whatever plans they had, have been put on hold. Serves them right!

  • Herman - 2012-05-04 21:05

    I hope the effect is that in future they will apply their minds before they decide and then proceed in a manner which is clean and transparent at all times. Also it is very late to start worrying about negative impact "on our track record in the prudent management of government finances". This track record is in tatters.

  • SA - 2012-05-04 23:14

    NO TO E TOLLS - YOU BUILT THEM YOU PAY FOR THEM - WE ALL WANT TO KNOW HOW MUCH WAS SPENT ON THE ROAD IMPROVEMENT AND HOW MUCH WAS SPENT CONSTRUCTING THE E TOLL COLLECTION POINT? WAS THIS NOT BUDGETED IN THE 2010 WORLD CUP BUDGET?. WHY IT HAS TAKEN 18 YEARS FOR THE GOVERMENT TO START INVESTING IN OUR ROADS? WHY WE PAY 35% FUEL DUTIES? I COULD GO ON AND ON - WE ARE SICK OF THE B*** s*** GOVERMENT.

  • lungile.ndyibithi - 2012-05-05 07:31

    With my little knowledge of PMBOK, you need to include risk management in any project you do. At planning stage whoever did risk assessment for them must have identified this risk and proposed sound mitigation plan.

  • Martha - 2012-05-05 13:00

    IF they(goverment) can afford R5.75bn in year one and keep it for 3 after that, the R20bn debt would be paid and we would not need tolls..but where would the goverment find another cookie jar if they pay the debt?

  • Boere - 2012-05-06 06:14

    Issue infrastructure development bonds to the public so that we too can benefit from the profits generated by these projects instead of only the corrupt ANC.

  • Pieter Kunz - 2012-05-06 18:31

    Government would also like to reiterate that the R20bn investment in the GFIP which started in 2007 will benefit the residents and the economy of Gauteng, which is the major driver of national economic activity," Chabane said. --- explain how adding more inflation on the cost of living will allow me to benefit out of this... The fact that the goverment

      Pieter Kunz - 2012-05-06 18:35

      The fact that government appoints a committee that consists of anc, sanral and all the parties who have been for etolling instead of growing some balls and allowing outa etc to be part of it as well. They will only try to make this work forcing it through like the secrecy bill, scorpions... They only have their own pockets in mind and not the tax payer... The love for money and power will be the down fall of this nation

  • braamc - 2012-05-06 19:58

    Steal less your filthy thieving cANCer

  • mohaleramoba - 2012-05-08 09:26

    YOU GUYS IN THE ANC WHO ARE PART OF THE EXECUTIVE THINK PEOPLE OF SOUTH AFRICA ARE STUPID...U KNOW NOTHING ABOUT POLITICS AND U THINK YOU DO...U DID NOT SEE THIS E-TOLLING DILEMMA COMING COS YOU WE TOO STUPID TO SEE IT...THERE WAS NEVER CONSULTATION ON THIS PROJECT...SO DO NOT TALK NONSENCE...JUST DEAL WITH IT...FIND SOME WAY TO PAY FOR THIS PROJECT...AND STOP UNDERMINING US.

  • Shiyara - 2012-05-11 17:39

    My Gosh this makes us soo stupid!

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