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Young communists back Woolworths

2012-09-06 12:13

Johannesburg - The Young Communist League (YCL) voiced support on Thursday for retail group Woolworths Holdings [JSE:WHL], which is under fire for allegedly discriminating against whites when filling vacancies.

The YCL lauded Woolworths' efforts to comply with the Employment Equity Act and labour laws to ensure its labour force represented the country's demographics.

"We call on Woolworths to urgently implement these measures and further call on... all... unions in the retail sector to support the initiatives," said spokesman Buti Manamela.

"We further call on Woolworths to make public their employment demographics, and hope that no white person currently employed will lose a job as a result of the company's compliance with labour laws."

Trade union Solidarity announced a campaign on Wednesday to force Woolworths to retract job advertisements it believed discriminated against whites.

Solidarity deputy general secretary Dirk Hermann said the company had failed to retract advertisements for posts for which only black candidates would be considered, despite the union raising concerns about this on Tuesday.

The campaign: "Woolworse: Making a differentiation", would be driven by social media and would include protest messages to Woolworths CEO Ian Moir.

Manamela said his organisation was not and would never be anti-white, but white people currently benefited more than other races from the labour market.

If not reversed, this situation would fuel racial tensions.

"We will tirelessly work to counter (Solidarity's) calls for a boycott of Woolworths goods and stores," Manamela said.

Law firm Cliffe Dekker Hofmeyr said employers should exercise caution when banning candidates from certain racial groups from employment or promotion.

"The facts of each vacancy should be considered in determining whether the conduct of the employer will be fair," said labour lawyer Johan Botes.

If candidates were excluded this could amount to unfair discrimination, unless the employer could satisfy a court that it had acted fairly and in accordance with its employment equity plan.

Employers who had already reached their employment equity targets but continued to discriminate against non-designated groups, would have difficulty in relying on the employment equity defence contained in the Employment Equity Act.

"However, an employer that, for instance, incurs huge expense in training candidates for later appointment into categories of employment where there is significant over-representation of white males, may find the court more sympathetic where it excludes white males up-front from participating in the training programme or recruitment," he said.

Employers should tread carefully when creating absolute barriers for entry for non-designated racial groups, as this could contravene the Employment Equity Act.

The retailer's chief operating officer Sam Ngumeni has defended the job adverts.

"Jobs are only designated and preference indicated where there is a need to address representation and ensure the diversity of our teams," he said on Wednesday.

"Other than that, all other jobs are open to applicants from all demographic groups."

All Woolworths employment practices were in line with the Employment Equity Act, Ngumeni said.


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Comments
  • dieter.muller.942145 - 2012-09-06 12:34

    the farking idiots dont even shop at woolies ... but game on woolies ... see where their support will bring u *EFG*

      peter.ndamase - 2012-09-06 12:54

      This is good publicity for woolies. Nandos must be hard at work on their next ad!!!

      JaredVN - 2012-09-06 12:55

      Don't be too sure that Woolies isn't happy about the YCL's support. After all, it's their kind who are the typical snuffling pigs at the trough of BEE deals. For all you know the YCL's leadership are all stinking rich BEE parasites.

      priyal.pillay - 2012-09-06 13:10

      oh, i couldn't resist...lmao: "“We are going to fight this injustice every inch of the way, until we get bored, possibly by the weekend,” said Marie-Antoinette Guevara, 50. “We need to protect the right of minorities, or, in this case, the right of a minority to keep earning eight times more than the majority.” http://www.hayibo.com/whites-to-boycott-woolies-until-their-craving-for-salmon-becomes-too-strong/

      dieter.muller.942145 - 2012-09-06 15:34

      Marie-Antoinette se 50 jarige ou Guava! look, even if if all white ppl go buy at woolies again, the damage has been done ... other companies will also learn from this ----- mission accomplished

      reon.dereuck - 2012-09-07 12:13

      Brakpan has been boycotting Woolies for the last 40 years......

      andreas.meyer.12327 - 2012-09-15 20:19

      Isn't it ironic that Communist always have been on the forefront lecturing others about so-called "racism". And now they support that kind of racial advertisement and job placement policy?! C'mon It's clear now that anti-racist means anti-White.

  • neil.purves - 2012-09-06 12:35

    hahaha, the commies supporting the capitalists

      robbie.crouch - 2012-09-06 13:04

      The commies in this country are amongst the best paid people... what a joke.

  • iceman196 - 2012-09-06 12:38

    go back to your spaza shop morons

      peter.ndamase - 2012-09-06 12:59

      Typical mentality!!!

  • Peter Zylstra - 2012-09-06 12:39

    All whites which constitutes 79% of W customers must boycott woolworths.

      peter.ndamase - 2012-09-06 12:48

      Yeah, and I'm sure you have your lunch box filled with woolies goodies.

      jackie.stone.501 - 2012-09-06 12:50

      Good for you, at least my shopping will be so pleasurable everyday with less queue for people taking lots and lots of food and return them at the counter

      JaredVN - 2012-09-06 12:54

      @Peter Ndamase - Yeah, I'm sure you're a BEE parasite or a tenderpreneur who can afford to shop at Woolies.

      peter.ndamase - 2012-09-06 12:57

      @Jared, woolies prices are actually cheaper than what you pay at Pick 'n pay for the same items. Try compare prices when you do shopping next time. I would boycott pick 'n pay with their useless, rip off points anytime!!

      JaredVN - 2012-09-06 13:00

      Woolies will have to drop their prices drastically, given that most whites I know won't shop there after their racist advertisements.

      mantothieve.missingman - 2012-09-06 13:01

      Took my wifes woolies card and broke it already , Check checkers net om die hoek

      alan.gernet - 2012-09-06 13:03

      Whatever - from what staff have commented about working for Woolies - they are not known or being great employers anyway. In general - he staff @ Woolies are polite and competent, and I think that those are the important atributes, irrespective of colour.

      robbie.crouch - 2012-09-06 13:05

      1. Woolies is too far for me. 2. They are too expensive. 3. Viva Checkers up the road!

      jan.grobler.50 - 2012-09-06 13:43

      @peter.ndamase - Please give me the address of Woolies where the prices are better than those of P'nP, I would love to see that. Better quality perhaps, but better prices, "NEVER". These Woolies branches are obviously not in the suburbs where the "minority" or should I say, the "people not welcome to apply for jobs",stay?

      renny.meere - 2012-09-06 13:50

      Boycott, boycott, we have to get behind this initiative until we rid South Africa of racial discrimination.

  • pmbadenhorst - 2012-09-06 12:39

    how many "young communists" shop at woolworths ?

      chris.gill.9849 - 2012-09-06 13:01

      Just the ones that have access to the organisation's finances.

  • mullervince - 2012-09-06 12:41

    Well, that's why they are called idiots. Who cares about who or what they back

  • zolisa.dlokovu - 2012-09-06 12:41

    I agree with young communists

      abra.kadaver.1 - 2012-09-06 12:58

      you my friend are an idiot. Surely even in the African culture of take everything, give nothing back, you would agree that positions in a company should be given to the most qualified and best suited candidate? Not the one with the darkest skin?

  • abra.kadaver.1 - 2012-09-06 12:43

    When I need staff again, my advert will say , "only white people need apply" EE is blatant racism.

      louanne.smith.39 - 2012-09-06 13:33

      Was thinking that exact same thought! Got 18 employees so BEE or EE doesn't apply (less than 50) Wil slowly but surely start implementing WEE (White economic empowerment)if this crap continues.

  • deon.dixon.50 - 2012-09-06 12:45

    Now if THIS doesn't convince you to boycott Woolies, nothing ever will.

  • mark.klerk.7 - 2012-09-06 12:49

    i do find it quite interesting how everyone is making a big stink about woolies when SAA blatantly said they will only hire black pilots. if taxi drivers are anything to go by, i will never fly SAA again

      hans.himmler.7 - 2012-09-06 13:03

      Yip so that is WW and SAA. As in the word of Hendrid Verwoerd "Goodbye and good luck"

      warren.rodel - 2012-09-06 13:05

      Boycott SAA as well.

  • theo.reinecke.9 - 2012-09-06 12:51

    A communist group supporting a capitalist group... Only in South Africa! As a white male living in South Africa, I too will also boycott Woolies... until they pay me a salary of R12500...

  • justindeklerk - 2012-09-06 12:52

    Last time I checked white are still part of this country's demographics, so why exclude them completely? If ANY company in SA advertised a post for "whites only" you can only imagine the hell that will break loose, it will become an international disaster with violent consequences and the black people of SA will destroy property and kill people in large numbers, because that's how it works here! As usual apartheid will be blamed! Well Woolies has lost my support, I don't support such racist policies!

      warren.rodel - 2012-09-06 13:06

      Yes to Boycotting Woolworths!

  • louis.kriel - 2012-09-06 12:53

    Yes and I bet all your business comes from the Young communists. Woolworths se moer!

  • mandy.robinson.5074 - 2012-09-06 12:54

    I hope Woolworths remembers their words when they have their next strike. As for Ngumeni's statement regarding employment equity, please use another word as equity is a bit of an oxymoron here. Equity should be the quality of being fair or impartial. My hardeared money will no longer further their cause.

  • kieron.beets - 2012-09-06 12:55

    "Manamela said his organisation was not and would never be anti-white, but white people currently benefited more than other races from the labour market." Because we worked to get where we wanted to be... And White people benefitting??? Ja Manamela, so let me guess you also just want? I have never gotten a job just because I am white... How many black can say that they never got a job because they are black... And ridicule yourself... After 18 years, its a level playing field... Myself will never ever shop at Woolworse again! Stop discriminating on races with your BEE and your AA and PDI and #(@_) I dont know how many words you are going to create for what is blatantly racism... We worked to get this country to where it is... It wasn't like we just wanted it to be that way... Get up be a MAN and work for what you want!

  • rehan.pretorius - 2012-09-06 12:56

    It doesn't stop with Woolies. How about McDonald's....Engen etc...think one should boycott them all!

      louanne.smith.39 - 2012-09-06 14:37

      We have to start somewhere Rehan! Others will follow suit if we can convince/force one big retailer to change their ridiculous policies! Im sure most companies would rather prefer employing a person qualified and capable of doing the job, than one just to fill their quotas!

  • rick.kabose - 2012-09-06 12:57

    I went into woolies earlier to get the barley soup mix.Remembered the boycott and walked out.1 black customer out of about 20. All the staff were black. Lets close them down

      warren.rodel - 2012-09-06 13:09

      Yes to Boycotting Woolworths!

  • mantothieve.missingman - 2012-09-06 13:00

    Easy Woolies let these guys become your customers , Those 75 rand chickens of yours are not going to go well with them just a litte warning in advance

  • jp.leroux.33 - 2012-09-06 13:01

    I cant wait to see how Nandos capitalizes on the situation, surprised they haven't already!

      alan.gernet - 2012-09-06 13:10

      haha - I am sure Nandos will score full MARX with their next advert.

  • cindy.dunn.9 - 2012-09-06 13:03

    So if I understand this correctly. The majority of woolies shoppers can never find employment there. Hmmmm not supporting them anymore

  • jame.cockrell - 2012-09-06 13:12

    Way to go Woolworths youve definitely lost your portion in my monthly budget

  • ebenhaeser.villiers - 2012-09-06 13:19

    At 79% White clientele, Woolworths should be very careful as to whom they piss off.

      Kgomotso Khumo - 2012-09-06 13:37

      true!!!

      sibusiso.gigaba - 2012-09-10 21:38

      Villiers where are u getting your statistics just asking. You must realize that there is no retail group that can survive in SA without the buying power of blacks they are more than 80% of the population and every year their buying power is increasing.

  • luke.dekoker - 2012-09-06 13:24

    If Woolworths' excuse is their "efforts to comply with the Employment Equity Act and labour laws to ensure its labour force represented the country's demographics" then they must really take note that although there are lots and lots of the socalled PDAs they DO NOT buy from them. We CDAs should boycot Woolworths, if all of us do it they will soon feel it because there won't be enough money available to them to finance the "bad debt" from non-paying PDA account holders.

  • joao.r.oliveira1 - 2012-09-06 13:25

    Divisive policies serve only to sow division and marginalize people on the basis of colour. Consumers care about quality not about colour, passengers prime concern is safety and not the colour of a pilot's skin and a patient prime concern is care not the colour of a doctors skin. Politicians on the other hand care about votes and therefore the colour of peoples skins. It is sad that such policies will ultimately lead to unemployment, boycotts and a drop in standards. I would advocate that everyone should start identifying themselves as black. There would be more white people in this country. if you call yourself back on what basis will they call you white? the pencil test perhaps, are we really any different in that case to what we once were!

  • kaashefah.davids - 2012-09-06 13:31

    Someone should run a poll on how many whites are willing to flip burgers stock shelf wash floors and are willing to work ALONGSIDE people of other color.

  • kaashefah.davids - 2012-09-06 13:31

    Someone should run a poll on how many whites are willing to flip burgers stock shelves wash floors and are willing to work ALONGSIDE people of other color.

  • dessa.juniortshabisto - 2012-09-06 13:31

    Give Woolworths a Bells

  • bevan.carpenter.1 - 2012-09-06 13:37

    and so the racial lines are drawn and heels dug in, this country is going to get nowhere in a hurry

  • GuyHewThompson - 2012-09-06 13:47

    Big business has to play in the political arena. (It appears that both sport and commerce have to) Let's for a minute ignore the fact that we have to discriminate against a minority when the majority has the political power yet can't muster financial power, shows a lack of political and financial intelligence. This will only change when the ruling party start retiring their older members and bring in younger finance-based educated members. (You can't have BA students trying to bring economic change.) Only then will we see economic change within our great country. Why try take from one group to give to another? It shows a simple mind set. What we need to achieve is to uplift with new wealth and not to merely transfer. Futhermore transformation needs to happen in Government, from uneducated to highly educated. Big commerce has to play "nice", especially when hiring youth positions. The highly educated still hold the top jobs - Which are still held by "white" men. Why? Because they have the experience and qualifications. In time the faces will change, but lets hope it's only the colour of their skin. We need people to fill middle management positions to create a "non-white" middle class, to give hope to the lower class. Hard work equals a small house, a car, and children with an education. What the lower class see right now is - play dirty and get a mansion, a German car and 20 wives. Come on guys, stop complaining and get working.

  • kevin.ian.583 - 2012-09-06 13:47

    Yesterday Woolworths lost R1.5 billion in value on the stock exchange. Today as at 13:30 it has shed R94 million off its value. I have researched their racist adverts and can confirm them to be true as they still existed yesterday evening. Dear Woolworths please accept employment applications from whites for all positions in some cases we may be better than your black candidates , please stop your racist polocies.

  • Joubs1957 - 2012-09-06 13:49

    Yeah Woolies Lets see how many of the "young communinists" support you??

  • rainer.jad - 2012-09-06 13:55

    You want to represent the demographics? Go open your stores in rat infested townships then!!

  • andrew.martin.71619533 - 2012-09-06 13:58

    lol....whats next, 'NIKE'....cos they only use asian child labour, or maybe 'SHELL'.....cos they only kill black n white penguins.....hahahaha....its called freedom of choice....

  • henk.tredoux.7 - 2012-09-06 14:08

    I called Woolworths Head Office around 10:30 today. To speak to the "big peanut" in the packet! The switchboard executive was not sure, who I wanted to speak to....eventually I spoke to a helpful lady at customer service.....she said " Woolworths was misquoted" and that "their communications department

  • nananatakemehome - 2012-09-06 14:09

    No! You don't say. Young Communists support a capitalist woolies! Why am I surprised that I am not surprised!!!

  • bob.jaan.9 - 2012-09-06 14:09

    en die boikot loop! dag 2 van die woolies boikot is reeds n sukses! dankie aan almal wat deelneem. Volg die debat op FB: http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=474862802538589&set=a.161713713853501.38753.161706480520891&type=1&theater

  • John Peter Steyn - 2012-09-06 14:22

    Not many black people shop at Woolworths, mainly whites do. Boycott these racists and let the crystal and caviar communists of SA shop there instead. They will soon change their attitude or go bust. Viva Steve Hoffmeyer Viva

  • henk.tredoux.7 - 2012-09-06 14:23

    Around 10:30 today I called Woolworths head office today. I asked the switchboard executive If I could speak to the "big peanut" in the HR packet she was not too amused and put me through to customer care! There a very helpful lady explained that "Woolworths was misquoted" they are NOT retrenching and that their communications department is working on a press release! In return I requested "can I have it in writing, what you just said" the reply came that she can't correspond on matters relating to company policy ....( I was just pushing the envelope), however we can expect a press release soon! .....tik tok tik tok

  • winifred.watson.9 - 2012-09-06 14:24

    Another day in the african jungle.

  • John Peter Steyn - 2012-09-06 14:26

    Shenzi.kubala. I'd like to get my hands on you boy

  • seanne.koopman - 2012-09-06 14:34

    I don't see what the fuss is about. This way Woolworths is saving other race groups the schlep of getting their CVs together and emailing only to be disappointed later!

  • dessa.juniortshabisto - 2012-09-06 14:45

    Woolworths deserves an award,thank u

      dieter.muller.942145 - 2012-09-06 16:09

      i agree ... a nice PK!

  • chrisfourielipman - 2012-09-06 16:43

    Woolworths SA (and all other companies with similar attitudes), please explain the following: http://www.photographers.co.za/Woolworths.asp

  • bharrison70 - 2012-09-07 11:55

    It is all very well instructing SAA and Wool~Worse to alter their adverts ( well the wording of them ) but as far as vacant posts are concerned, what guarentee is there that SAA and Wool~Worse are going to employ a white face at the end of the day ?? It simply gives a number of BEE's the job and additional work to interview the white faces that apply for the post/s.

  • sibusiso.gigaba - 2012-09-10 21:26

    The Woolworths group should be supported for what they are doing. Blacks suffered greatly during apartheit its only the employment equity law that can change the imbalance created during apartheit. The people calling for boycoting woolworths they can try its their democratic right but i dont see them succiding becouse they are such a minority. Its better for a business to choose to implement these laws than the government forcing them to implement.

  • marinus.dupreez - 2012-09-15 19:16

    We as the whites should boycot woolies for a month, lets stand together and hit them where it hurts the most . . . lets keep our money instead of spending it at woolies, wich is vrey overpriced in the first place. Woolies wont see me soon . .

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