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Woolworths: We do employ whites

2012-09-09 10:55

Johannesburg - Amid calls for a boycott of retailer Woolworths Holdings [JSE:WHL], it responded on Sunday with a prominent advertisement in Sunday newspapers, defending its employment policy.

Woolworths did employ white people, contrary to media reports stating otherwise, its said in the advertisement, published in the City Press, Rapport and Sunday Times newspapers.

"Over the past few days, many things have been said about our recruitment practises - specifically, that we don't employ white people. That is simply not true.

"Woolworths does employ white people. We employ women and men of all races - white, black, coloured, Indian, as well as people with disabilities, and we will continue to do so."

Trade union Solidarity began a campaign against the retailer on Wednesday to get it to retract job advertisements it believed discriminated against whites.

Solidarity had sent Woolworths a letter on Tuesday demanding that advertisements exclusively open to "African blacks" or "Africans, coloureds and Indians", be modified so people of all races could be considered.

General secretary Dirk Hermann said the Woolworths' advertisements constituted unfair race discrimination.

In the advertisement on Sunday, Woolworths said there were certain areas of its business which were seriously under represented.

It was in these areas that Woolworths was looking for candidates from certain groups.

"Because like all of South Africa's major companies, we're committed to transformation," it said in the advertisement.

Woolworths is also embroiled in another labour controversy over contracts.

On August 27, it said no retrenchments were taking place after it was reported that 593 employees faced early retirement or retrenchment if they did not sign new contracts.

However, the company said it was merely seeking to transfer about 3% of its staff on old contracts to a new system requiring them to work weekends.

If staff did not want to work under the new contract, they could leave with a voluntary severance payment, or take early retirement if they qualified.

It said about 80% of the affected employees had accepted one of the voluntary options proposed, while 1% had not.

The SA Commercial, Catering and Allied Workers' Union, which said the offer was to the detriment of workers' rights, said 177 workers were being retrenched.


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Comments
  • danielzainlegrange - 2012-09-09 11:15

    Has anyone ever seen a white cashier at woolworths? Well I haven't ever! Not even the floor managers are white. So I rest my case!

      mary.lelibana - 2012-09-09 11:18

      supported, what about security and petroleum companies? Has anyone see a white security guard or petrol attendant?

      mark.d.barnard - 2012-09-09 11:20

      Not sure where you live...I've seen white employees at every level in every Woolies in my area. The whole demographic is very well represented, and I'm especially chuffed as a hard of hearing person that they employ Deaf staff since it's not often you run into other deafies if you're not involved in the Deaf community.

      mark.d.barnard - 2012-09-09 11:27

      I also play rugby with a white security guard, though I'll say I've never seen a white petrol attendant.

      hendrikvs - 2012-09-09 11:31

      I used to shop at three different WW stores in the Sandton area - and no - I have never seen a White or Indian face in any of the stores. They are blatant liars.

      yvonne.styger.3 - 2012-09-09 11:33

      Lets help them to transform- from a retailer to an empty shop. Sure, the newspapers will bend over backwards- its advertising revenue.Dont fall for their spin, in support. And true, this campaign should go far beyond Woolworths

      Joe - 2012-09-09 11:34

      and have you ever seen a white cashier in Spar, Checkers, PnP, or Shoprite? I bet not, in which case why don't you boycott them as well? And what about a white petrol attendant? I rest my case... you idiot.

      basil.jacobs1 - 2012-09-09 11:37

      As I previously commented: At their Parkrand branch I have seen no whites. At their Sunward Park branch I have seen only one white lady with a hearing disability. So where is the demographic representation they talk of. Please Mr Moir stop sending me emails to defend your policy, rather come have a look for yourself. Unfortunately the P & P nearby is the same. Only the Spars still have a few white tellers. So I support them now!

      hendrikvs - 2012-09-09 11:37

      Dear Shumba - it seems if you lack common sense and not understanding what the current boycott is all about. Are you a regular shopper at WW? If not - your statement does not hold any water!

      rodney.overes - 2012-09-09 11:45

      What about McDonalds the same situation!

      Citroes - 2012-09-09 11:50

      Woolies at West Coast Village in Table View has at least 1 white cashier. I've seen them at other Cape Town branches as well.

      hendrikvs - 2012-09-09 12:13

      LOL @ Leonard. Hope your wife loves you soon again - even if she has to survive without WW items. Tell her that all the good things WW sells can also be bought from a variety of other stores - including the many wonderful home industry shops around - and then there is the Market at Rosebank Mall every Sunday. And also - utilise the Internet for recipes and dust all the old fasvourite recipe books to start making even better and tastier treats at home. We and our parents and grandparents all survived well without WW - it is not that difficult. And my grandmother's milk tart and koeksisters were way better than WW can dream of selling.

      elaine.r.visser - 2012-09-09 12:15

      IN our Goodwood area i have not seem a white assistant and neither at the CNA that also belongs to the Woolthro goup.But then 90% of all staff at N One City Mall are non white.

      TSR01 - 2012-09-09 12:19

      To be fair, my friend's brother (yes, he is white) recently got a job at McDonald's - we had a good plenty of joking about it; "First white hired by McDonald's in SA!" :) But in all seriousness, I've seen a few whites employed at Spar. Can't speak for PnP, Checkers or the rest, but in this case (WoolWorths) I need to make it very clear: The matter is NOT that WoolWorths HASN'T IN THE PAST hired Whites. The matter is that WoolWorths IS NOW REFUSING to hire Whites for the MAJORITY of their PERMANENT POSITIONS. So what if there are already whites employed? What about those who have studied hard to obtain the relevant requirements to fill such positions, only to be turned away because of they skin color?! Must whites now go for plastic surgery to turn Black, Coloured, or Indian, like a reversal of Michael Jackson????? WHAT IS THIS RETARDED ANC GOVERNMENT COMING TO!?!? IS STUPIDITY THAT CONTAGIOUS, THAT WOOLWORTHS (such a large franchise) WOULD HALVE ITS OWN IQ TO CATER TO THE ANC'S CORRUPT POLICIES!? Stick it, WoolWorths, I don't care what you say, you've exposed yourselves and tried to defend your blatant racism and discrimination. Never shopping there again. EVER!

      siranne.vanonselen - 2012-09-09 12:34

      @ Shumba - actually the Spar and Checkers in my area have many white cashiers and floor staff as well as black, indian and coloured. Can't say I've ever seen a white person at Woolworths

      mike.boylen - 2012-09-09 13:19

      I have a friend who applied for a job in WW in PMB. He was told that he was the best candidate, but he was wasting his time because they don't employ whites.

      tw2066 - 2012-09-09 15:55

      Here's some facts. Went into my local Woolies today. Fact finding only .... Found 21 staff, of that 0% white male, 0! White female 1, at the cosmetic counter. So, that's the facts for my Woolies, and it doesn't fit the poster at the entrance. Then it dawned on me ... The reason they employ those people is because they have lower salary or wage expectations. Most are not overly ambitious to study so a floor job will do. And this explains why, when I went in today they were all too busy chatting to ask if I needed assistance. Lucky for me I got the facts I needed and could find my own way out.

      christiaan.oosthuizen.568 - 2012-09-09 20:31

      so you have whites in your employment ,..he For how long still???

      lunga.biyela.5 - 2012-09-09 21:29

      Have you ever seen a white cashier anywhere? Except for Tops in Underberg.

      merven.halo - 2012-09-10 09:15

      In not one of the Woolies in Pretoria have I seen white workers. The only supermarket that do employ whites is the Queenswood Spar. @ mary.lelibana - the garage next to Maders Hotel in Pretoria have white pump attendants. Also the Caltex in Potch had white pump attendants many years ago, the garage is now a display floor for Daily Landrover. You must get out more.

      nikita.clayton1 - 2012-09-10 09:30

      I have seen white petrol attendants at the Engen petrol station in Benoni. In fact, I don't think I've ever seen a black petrol attendant there.

  • daniel.v.wyk - 2012-09-09 11:17

    Will never support you again!!!! U had your chance! And many people feels like that!

  • hermann.hanekom - 2012-09-09 11:20

    Who is pulling wool over our eyes?

      TSR01 - 2012-09-09 12:28

      WoolWorthless :)

      chris.potgieter.73 - 2012-09-09 12:29

      They are defending, why so? Fact is they must apply their minds to the real issue. It is morally wrong to practice discrimination for any reason whatsoever. One can not legislate taking from one without payment and giving it to another without payment. All that will happen is that a circle will be created that will become self perpetuating. So when Woolworths does the correct thing and says no to enforcement of discriminatory laws many other firms will follow.

  • werneroli4 - 2012-09-09 11:22

    Lame excuse , advertising to only accept African Blacks is racist and not in line with employment equity at all. What about Coloureds , Indians are they not part of the designated groups ?

      desertratbkf - 2012-09-09 14:11

      @Phuti - and I quote "Indians are from oversea". May I ask you halfwit, where exactly, overseas are the Indians from?

  • carolyn.dewrance - 2012-09-09 11:23

    My son applied for a job there, and as he is white, we never got an answer back from them. Who do they think they are fooling, I for one will never walk into their shops again.

  • jaba.kov - 2012-09-09 11:24

    Attack Woolworths or racist government policy? Is Pn'P, checkers, Spar etc any different in EE policy then woolies? Just a question...

      leigh.legonidec - 2012-09-09 11:38

      If enough businesses resist government policy, then things would have to change. The only way to get business to resist is to hit them in the pocket...not so???? They all the same, but Woolies was dumb enough to discriminate against a population group that make up the bulk of their customer base...same can't be said for the others you mention.

      mfrater - 2012-09-09 12:13

      @leigh 100% agree on all counts.

      tw2066 - 2012-09-09 20:23

      To answer NO, the EE laws are as bad as those that accept them. But Woolies made it real They tried to use this for their image and it backfired. We all know that in secret - on the quiet SAA doesnt want whites, it looks bad to their shareholders. We all know that companies employ whites or indians with skills, but dont talk too much about it because under the ANC its politically incorrect - as Mildred Oliphant has made so clear.. Merit is a lost cause in South Africa, lost. If we did things on merit, the soccer coach issue would not have gone on and on. JZ wouldnt be president, Malema would have been out a long time ago, as would two or three police bosses. Education would be on track, and there would be no need for a race segregated BMF. No, EE is a good ticket for the masses and big business alike, and no matter what I say, it will be defended to the bitter end for the free ride it is. As for big business, EE is good for them because they can employ black people, pay them next to nothing, and shield this behind EE. Historically blacks earned poor wages - and the exploitation continues. I honestly believe that if EE was done away with, all races would benefit financially and morally. Hey the whites are a small minority, why are the majority so scared of us?

  • millionwatts1 - 2012-09-09 11:26

    With all the privilege the white skin gives you in this country you people are fighting to pack plastic bags at Woolworths? SMH.

      Kungfumouse - 2012-09-09 11:40

      It is a honest days hard work, I see many white people begging on street corners and wonder why the do not do packaging at a shop? It is an income none the less.

      MagdaKus - 2012-09-09 11:53

      I cannot know whether current criticism of Woolies is accurate or not (I suspect it may be sensationalized). But the privilege of white skin is vastly over-rated. Many whiteys who cannot find work out there... and my guess is they would be keen to get any work.

      millionwatts1 - 2012-09-09 12:07

      I offered a white family that hangs around a traffic light close to my house opposite St Davids school a cleaning job at my house and they refused because it was too much hard work they would rather get free money. I also suspect they dint wanna clean a black man's house. So these 'hard working' people look like they have a culture of entitlement too.

      millionwatts1 - 2012-09-09 12:35

      I could be wrong but I genuinely believe any white person with a bit of common sense will get a job in this country. That's why unemployment rate among whites is as low as 3,5%. In the UK its 9% and Spain its 20% so that means its a total idiot amongst whites who can't get a job here. You have a better chance as a white person to get a job here that in these 'white countries' Again I suspect whites here have the luxury to pick and choose what job they want. Some jobs a clearly below them. With blacks the tragedy is a lot of reasonable blacks end up having 'unreasonable' jobs because they are that desperate.

      mario.borchards - 2012-09-09 13:56

      @ MWF: Let me state firstly I do not believe in handouts because I have worked hard for what I have. You say that true equality is now. Have you looked at the income distribution in S.A. Wealth is transferred from one generation to another and 20 years CAN NOT make up for Apartheid. What happened at the end of Apartheid? those who had the economic wealth and power still had it and as a bonus their conscious were cleared because the Apartheid ended. Why dont you ask yourself you much did I benefit directly or indirectly by Apartheid. The jobs woolworths are advertising is mostly low skill jobs and the majority of the population is low skilled. legislation also compels Ww to maintain EE numbers. With now racist intention in my statement: Whites had it the easiest and still have it the easiest. Look at Economic Stats and then make the statement that whites are struggling in South Africa.

      Jennifer - 2012-09-09 15:19

      White people are struggling to survive. I have friends who want to die because they can't get work even to do gardening and rejected for being 'over qualified' to pack boxes at checkers, no work nothing - no help - no food no rent money - (because - against popular belief - white people aren't lucky or tanned enough to get a free house and electricity and water ) and now because of laws like the ones woolworths is supporting they are losing their families and their lives Enough with these wicked laws if it is white people are the ones in high positions with all this money flying around, why are all the ones I know barely surviving? No more Dominoes go down one by one Starting with woolworths.

      millionwatts1 - 2012-09-09 16:56

      @jeniffer, I will show you 20 blacks in that situation for every 1 white person who can't get a job. Actually I have never met a white graduate without a job in SA. Unless they are taking a gap year to travel around Africa or the world. Yes they have such luxuries as taking gap years. Many white people in low paying jobs supervise blacks that are far qualified than them. That's why I get quotations from white companies and then ask their black workers to do stuff for me privately on a Sunday then I pay them the full rate. This is because I discovered that its the blacks who actually do the work especially things like home improvements, construction, electrics and even car mechanics. The white owners stand about 'supervising' and pulling their weight around while the black guys toil. Observe next time they come to do your pool or gate or pavement or tyling.

      arianna.jugmohan - 2012-09-09 17:04

      Lol!!! And that's the truth!

      arianna.jugmohan - 2012-09-09 17:08

      @ millionwatts1:LOL!! I think you hit the nail on the head!

      Jennifer - 2012-09-09 19:03

      Millionwatts, I don't want to stop black people from succeeding but The answer is not to hire by race, the ANC government should have educated people why are the text books in a donga somewhere instead of raising people up to be able start businesses to confidently get jobs because they are the best ones for it The ANC has failed the people and these stupid laws won't change the situation for the poor black people nor anyone else Education will! Leave the racism behind and build instead of destroying. We Africans simply want to live safely with food and positive lives who doesn't.

      Jennifer - 2012-09-09 19:59

      Yes. I'm with you on that.

      Jennifer - 2012-09-09 20:00

      I guess it's time to stir the cup then. :)

      Jennifer - 2012-09-09 20:03

      I guess then it's time to stir the cup and mix it up. The colour divide is a pain in the bum.

  • sefako.mokgalaka - 2012-09-09 11:27

    Woolworths do not need to apologise to anyone for implementing their AA policies. Certain race groups think they were born leaders, managers and directors. I am sure Woolworths have not filled their cleaning and packing positions they can still apply.

      stanton.clarke - 2012-09-09 12:04

      Agreed.

      eloise.botha - 2012-09-09 12:14

      Yes and the mere fact that they made a statement when they started to scramble - the jobs are in any case for packers and cleaners which is beneath white people, and white people would in any case not be interrested in those jobs.... What does that say abou the black ppl.... Just asking... Maybe a bit of racism there?

      eloise.botha - 2012-09-09 12:17

      And just to add to my point, if I was black I would have been as angry as the whites....

      mfrater - 2012-09-09 12:19

      You are all fools who just do not get it at all. The time for TRUE EQUALITY IS NOW! Enough racist laws, you cannot fix apartheid by creating a new one. Apartheid was wrong, your kind fought for freedom killing many white people in your way to get there. Now the opposite is happening, how is this any more acceptable? You've had almost 20 years now of an unfair advantage over whites, oppressing us at every level. We have kept relatively quite up to now because it was seen to be "ok" to give your kind a little boost. But that time is now over. The racist laws are now no longer affecting the older generations who benefited during apartheid. It is now affecting those who had bugger all to do with it, and this is simply not fair. Not to mention that the current generation of black people who now benefit from the "new apartheid", how is that fair? They were not affected (and in many cases not even born yet) by apartheid. You've had your time in the sun, it's over now, lets all move on as EQUALS... is that not what your forefather fought for?

      Eduannn - 2012-09-09 12:48

      That's exactly the point - there are NO white cleaners or packers - So how would you feel if they advertised a job for cleaners and packers that said 'whites only' can apply?

      mokgadi.deborah - 2012-09-09 13:17

      MWF is in dreamland. EQUALITY means if between 2 glasses of water, 1 is full and the other is half filled only the one that is not full will be filled to make them EQUAL. You are just greedy and selfish

      Jennifer - 2012-09-09 15:26

      You assume too much Sefako White people would take those jobs but are rejected for being 'over qualified'...

      anton.coetzee.37 - 2012-09-09 18:51

      have you applied?

      joanita.hilton - 2012-09-10 08:22

      Since when did the retailer become more important than the consumer? They do not need to apologise, but they will most certainly apologise when their shops are unsupported. AA Policies must pay their bills too in that case

  • maureen.jackson.564 - 2012-09-09 11:28

    I will NOT boycott Woolies. This sort of transformation has been going on in every single company for years. I care only about the service I get and the service at Woolies is outstanding.

      paul.botha.967 - 2012-09-09 12:03

      Whatever !!!!!

      anton.coetzee.37 - 2012-09-09 18:52

      reckon your kids all have jobs?

      joanita.hilton - 2012-09-10 08:23

      I'm sure you will get some discount in the next "clearance' sale. Forward your loyalty comment to their marketing division

  • hendrikvs - 2012-09-09 11:28

    Liars! Very bad PR if you lie!

  • shireen.abbas - 2012-09-09 11:28

    I work there ! Thou I'm nt a woolies staff member !! Daily people of all colors n races come sign in by me coming for job interviews ect !! So all this wOOHaa in the papers just pure nonsense n kla !

      hendrikvs - 2012-09-09 11:33

      What a joke! We never see them in stores!!

      eloise.botha - 2012-09-09 12:16

      where are they? cleaning the toilets maybe... out of sight ?

      TSR01 - 2012-09-09 12:26

      Shireen.Abbas, if you actually worked "there" (yet you say you're not a WoolWorths staff member - kind of contradicting yourself there!), then you would realize that the employment policies in place are RACIST, NEW APARTHEID and DISCRIMINATORY. Go look at the WoolWorths Career Page for Permanent Positions. 11 of 14 are for ONLY BLACKS, COLOUREDS, OR INDIANS. AA / BEE / EE / etc. are policies which are SUPPOSED to give PREFERENCE to non-whites, not exclude them entirely. What if a white candidate is TWICE as qualified as any other applicants? "Sorry, no, your skin is not dark enough" - how's about a quick reverse MICHAEL JACKSON plastic surgery to BECOME DARKER!? Please, I'm sick enough of this bullocks all the ignorant folks try to pass off as "legal" and "fair" - when you refuse someone (with the required qualifications) employment on the basis of their ethnicity, then it is in violation of their Constitutional Rights not to be discriminated against based on Ethnicity, Gender, Religion, Culture or Beliefs. WoolWorths is WoolWorthless!

      joanita.hilton - 2012-09-10 08:25

      You work there but you are not a staff member? I'm a bit confused

  • richard.sloman.5 - 2012-09-09 11:29

    So let the advertisements show all races can apply, and then when it comes to the interviews, only certain people get the nod... whats the big deal, they will only employ the people they want to fill quotas in any case!

  • John Badenhorst - 2012-09-09 11:30

    I remember back in the 70's buy school uniforms etc from woolies....Wow, how times have changed....They practice unfair labour ethics and it will just continue. over the last 5 years, i have not seen a single white person in any woolworths store working there. My local Pick & Pay also now does pre-packed meals at half the price. Woolworths went from being the chain for the people to the chain for the elite. BUT...keep in mind that SAB owns the chain...so we need to stop buying beer too..

      ken.grimblegrumble - 2012-09-09 12:45

      John kindly point me to ANY literature that SAB owns WW. SAB spends money on SAB International NOT on some local retailer. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Woolworths_%28South_Africa%29 As previously stated at 17.22% the Government Employees Pension Fund is the largest single shareholder.

  • johnny.dube.14 - 2012-09-09 11:33

    Woolworths is executing the same smokescreen of excuses as the ANC government. The point in question is not whether Woolworths employs white people - but that the ad placed for a position was reserved for a specific race and other races were excluded from the privilege to apply. This is itself is against our very country's constitution. What needs to be emphasized is the fact that there are a lot of hard-working tax-payers who contribute to the country's economy and without them (regardless of ethnicity) the country will go backwards. Government's focus must shift towards rapid job creation - as they have hinted many times in the past - and they must STOP focussing on blocking working opportunities for skilled individuals based on race. It's a racist policy and does nothing for the betterment of South Africa. Let the people who have the knowledge help to fix this damn mess so that the engine can start speeding up more rapidly! We have enough benchwarmers and seat-fillers now and most of the job-seeking youth today have had fair education opportunities so if they are too stupid to get the job then it means that they were too lazy to study in school and preferred to socialize and sleep with the teacher instead of investing in their future. It's time that this slothlike slackness called government gets its damn asses into gear and start fixing this damn country because it's looking really DREADFUL at the moment. Stop looking for excuses and start working DAMMIT!

      comurray - 2012-09-09 13:32

      Well said. All job adverts should be for all with the ability or expertise to carry out the requirements of a particular position.

      theo.joubert.37 - 2012-09-09 15:50

      I could not say it better.

  • leon.groenewald.scuba.33 - 2012-09-09 11:34

    So what if you do appoint whites here and there; you still implement the racist EE, BEE and AA policies. By not apposing these policies you are condoning (ratifying) them. Woolworths should be made an example of. Withdraw the white money through boycott action. May it be the first domino to fall in order to underline the fact that we (white South-Africans) will not stand for this discrimination any longer. So tough cookies Woolies!

  • winifred.watson.9 - 2012-09-09 11:34

    They do employ whites, problem is so they so white that they are transparent, that why we are missing the issue. This problem can be found at all retailers etc. Woolies is a good place to start,

  • luan.c.volschenk - 2012-09-09 11:40

    Everytime I walk into Woolworths , Edgers, Mr.Price or any retailer its \spot a white and win a Datsun\

  • sean.crookson - 2012-09-09 11:41

    The original argument was not about whether white people were employed by Woolworths. Why are they now making pronouncements that are not relevant to the argument? This company doesn't seem to like the truth either. Saying they aren't doing retrenchments, then the news is they actually are. Who on earth is doing their PR? Quirk Agency says WW are their client, then WW says they aren't. They seem to be caught up in a lie and are trying to fight their way out by doing a hatchet-job on the messengers.

      theo.joubert.37 - 2012-09-09 16:01

      They have been exposed as a bunch of liars. We cannot believe anything they publish or say. Instead of apologising for their racist practice, they first defended it and now try to convince us with huge newspaper ads , and expect us to believe them. Do they really think that the majority of their customers are brainless idiots. This is yet another insult to their customers.

  • Bra Tebzaah Sibilanga - 2012-09-09 11:44

    Good job woolies,we cant afford to have a group of a certain disgruntled race who dont want change.You cant have a white only management and employees in this country.There are a lot of competent blacks who are overlooked for job opportunities because of their race.Dont crack woolies,change is good and if they feel it is unfair then it is their opinions and shoulf remain as opinions.

      Partiboy - 2012-09-09 11:58

      What about all if the incompetent 'previously disadvantaged individuals' who get a job before all the other highly qualified and competent participants?

      Bra Tebzaah Sibilanga - 2012-09-09 11:59

      Its called sense you idiot.

      Bra Tebzaah Sibilanga - 2012-09-09 12:22

      What about all the uneducated whites with no experience who are appointed over suitably qualified and competent blacks just because they are white?They are even promoted to senior positions when the very same black man who taught him to do the job with years of experience continues to be overlooked.Stop moaning white people,we need to fix this whether you like it or not.And am glad Woolies os taking that initiative.

      allen.bullard.9 - 2012-09-09 13:01

      Hey Bra, you got it all wrong! This actually has nothing to do with who the hell they hire to fill the various posts. It's about the FACT that 90% of their clientele is white and that it's a slap in the face to their customers that they had the effrontery to rub their noses in the media that they only hire people of colour. If they had never advertised the fact, status quo would continue. Marketing 101 - Don't pi*s off your customer! Word-of-mouth advertising is best, in this case , the worst!

  • miemie.fick - 2012-09-09 11:53

    Woolworths, not interested in your government-type peptalks... Honestly. As for Spar, PnP and Checkers where I shop at, ALL have white employees, even white males! and I support them with pride.

      kaybee.kubu - 2012-09-09 14:47

      what "pride"!? isn't is supposed to be about, "who can do the job well"? so, where does "pride" come in now!? and for your info, they also also employ blacks. so stop being in denial...

      danielle.vlok - 2012-09-10 08:48

      @kaybee.kubu,"and for your info, they also also employ blacks. so stop being in denial". Thats the whole point. I have no doubt the black people employed were the right candidates, and deserved the jobs they have more than anyone else that applied. Thats all anyone is asking for: fair recruit practice based on skill.

  • mandla.thwala.10 - 2012-09-09 11:54

    Some peaple when they bored ,they can go out talking all the kind of rubbish, never knowing the kind of damage they are causing to certain peaple or organisations,as is the case with woolworths.

      marius.kannemeyer - 2012-09-09 17:29

      And you can not even spell! I bet you have a job as a senior manager with your spelling abilities. Goes to show what type of people are employed these days.

  • charmaine.hoffmann.1 - 2012-09-09 11:56

    From now on, I will support local small businesses. Walking from store to store might take a little longer, but hey, we get some excersise as well...never know what good things might come of that, the local butcher might have some nice specials as well as the fruit and vegie store around the corner. These small businesses often suffer due to these big chain departments. Time to turn the tables I say...

      theo.joubert.37 - 2012-09-09 16:03

      Fully agree.

  • ntsunyane.frederick - 2012-09-09 11:59

    I wish Malema could comment on this one.

      eloise.botha - 2012-09-09 12:22

      Malema thinks Telkom provides electricity... You go Tiger! I am so sure that Malema might think Woolies is a counrty in Kasakstan....

      david.wolpert.39 - 2012-09-09 13:25

      Bladdy agent!!

      charmaine.rowlands - 2012-09-09 15:50

      i really wish i could "thumbs up" more than once... @eloise.botha you rock, that's the funniest comment i've seen, you GO girl. LOL

      marius.kannemeyer - 2012-09-09 17:31

      He is to busy filling his pockets by conning dumb a$$ people like you.

  • jenine.nicholson - 2012-09-09 12:00

    And if they were to put an advert out stating that a particular vacancy was NOT and AA / EE position everyone that supports them now would be up in arms about how racist they are - Fact is they will employ whatever their Labour Policy dictates and at the end of the day that the right colour for the job will trump whether the person on whatsoever level has the skills and experience to carry the job out successfully - and we wonder why the economy is the way it is?!?

      bryan.culross - 2012-09-09 13:31

      What is so great about Woolworths food? I fail to know ... stopped buying their food a long time ago. I certainly have no desire to pat R45+ for a tiny spinach quiche when I get a much larger and more tastier one from my Spar at about R32! Their men's shirts generally have a bad cut ... cropped to high. An over-rated food store!!!

  • johnny.dube.14 - 2012-09-09 12:05

    The fact of the matter is that if companies do not subscribe to BEE requirements then government will literally just "write them off". When it comes to infrastructure support or financial aid, tax assistance or whatever - even for contracts - companies WILL conform to BEE standards otherwise they will lose chances of going into business with government - the richest entity in South Africa! What they don't realize is - the people who pay government (tax-payers' taxes) are the ones who keep the circle going. Woolworths is an example in principle of what could potentially happen if BEE policies were not aborted soon. The transition to a new South Africa can't happen forever and at some point the scale must be balanced out again. Little children will not understand why they can't get a job simply because they are white - and by then Nelson Mandela, FW de Klerk, Eugene Terreblanche and Hendrik Verwoerd will be a vague memory. Reverse apartheid is in the making under current government policy and if it is not stopped soon then it will be a vicious cycle of race-based governance for as long as this poor country will still hang around. If a certain race is currently disadvantaged - in future they will be previously disadvantaged - so what makes this different than the days of apartheid?

      miemie.fick - 2012-09-09 12:39

      Companies should learn very quickly where their money comes from. And it's NOT the corrupt ANC government. It's the people who take out their purses at the till and hand over the money! Treat them well, consider them, and you will not be in the same predicament as Woolworths. Decide which is higher : losing your customers, or paying the fines....

      comurray - 2012-09-09 13:48

      Who in his/her right mind wants to do business with the government anyway. They never pay their accounts and expect you to keep supplying, no thanks

  • des.palm - 2012-09-09 12:06

    80% + 1% = 81% - where are the others? And by the way, it is not about who you have currently employed but rather about the future employment policies you advocate.

  • trevor.kent.921 - 2012-09-09 12:07

    All to late Woolworths you have made your bed now lie in it. Down you go Bye Bye

  • mocan.jack - 2012-09-09 12:07

    Woolworths. For heavens sake, haven't you guys said enough... damage control - definitely not.

  • pieter.marais.9 - 2012-09-09 12:07

    Ok you do employ whites just as you steal and poach from the small man. Remember Frankies. So give us another "white" lie

      charmaine.hoffmann.1 - 2012-09-09 12:22

      Start supporting small business out there, can assure you that the service will be much better...

  • gemmaleigh.evans.3 - 2012-09-09 12:08

    Woolworths is digging its hole even deeper. Instead of saying sorry, we messed up, they're treating us like we're stupid. No one said woolworths doesn't employ whites. People are disputing the fact that Woolworths explicitly excluded a race from their job advertisements. Yes, I understand, there are legal requirements you're bound by. However, that doesn't mean an element of diplomacy can't be used. At the end of the day its the employers decision as to who gets a job and who does not. To outright exclude a race is as insulting as its discriminatory. Stop back-tracking, admit you screwed up, apologize and move on. The more you treat the public like they're stupid, the more you'll piss them off (mind my language).

  • terrylee.heuer - 2012-09-09 12:08

    Woolies you just doing what Govt dictates ie EE AA BEE if not you will be slapped with a heavy fine but u should never have excluded whites in your ads its just not right!!! I think the whites you do say you employ are at head office in the accounts dept or Human Resources Dept not on the floor or tills in your stores

  • kasper.mbayi2 - 2012-09-09 12:08

    Racism is becoming a huge problem in this country, as job seeker I never see even 1 company replying to aplicant saying sorry we have on job. Its a first time I hear somebody expeting a report back. I wish news24's editor can pass all this comment not to cut it.

      mike.clery - 2012-09-09 14:15

      I was shocked quite a few years back to find (from my son) that it's common practice to not even acknowledge an application. An organization that can't be bothered to email a short "Thank You for your application ..." isn't one that I'd want to work for!

  • J.Stephen.Whiteley - 2012-09-09 12:11

    If the Labour Laws were scrapped, the resulting economic growth would bypass this nonsense

  • larry.piggott1 - 2012-09-09 12:12

    No, too late. Flip Flop comes to mind. WOoolworths does not need me and I do not now need Woolworths.

  • angilique.whatt - 2012-09-09 12:13

    I had enough of this BEE crap. every time something goes wrong it is the fault of the whites. So woolies... continue with this. I WILL NEVER PUT A FOOT INTO A WOOLWORTHS. EVEN IF YOU CHANGE THIS POLICY. WHITE-PEOPLE, take note !!. VOTE WITH YOUR WALLET. DON'T BUY FROM WOOLWOTHS AGAIN, EVEN WHEN THEY CHANGE THIS. They will soon reliase where their money is coming from. ENOUGH OF THIS RACE FIGHT. EMPLOY PEOPLE FOR THEIR SKILL AND NOT FOR THEIR COLOR. I HOPE YOUR SHARE PRICE DROP SO BAD THAT YOU HAVE TO CLOSE YOUR DOORS. ### DO NOT BUY FORM WOOLIES AGAIN, AND KEEP TO IT. ###

      tasmee.hylkema - 2012-09-09 21:59

      Close their doors because it peeves certain people off? I dont have a problem with Woolies. And mind you, I was never a recipient of EE or the like, I dont have a problem with Woolies PERIOD. Why should people like me be denied, because others have a problem?? After all my great grand parents right down to myself have spent generations being denied?

  • James Makarapa Kaplan - 2012-09-09 12:15

    Sometimes it better just to keep quiet but no what does WW they keep digging!

  • giovanni.geremia.9 - 2012-09-09 12:21

    Too little too late! Explain your drop in share prices and sudden share sales? Explain stealing soft drink themes and artwork. From Hero to Zero because you're playing politics instead of looking after your customers.

      bob.jaan.9 - 2012-09-09 13:38

      dag 5 van die woolies boikot - vasbyt en aanhou. Moet julle nie steur aan die negatiewe kommentaar nie. Hierdie is nie n popularity contest nie. Solank as wat mense nie by Woolies koop nie, bloei hulle besigheid EN MOET HULLE VERANDERINGE MAAK OM WEER DAAI VOETE TERUG TE WEN IN DIE WINKELS.Onthou, die klomp pro- woolies stemme, gaan verseker nie extra aankope doen om op te maak vir die sales wat hulle huidiglik verloor nie...STEM MET JOU VOETE EN BEURSIE EN BLY EENVOUDIG WEG VAN HULLE WINKELS DEBAT NOG BAIE AKTIEF - http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=476464065711796&set=a.161713713853501.38753.161706480520891&type=1&theater

  • Shaun McDermott - 2012-09-09 12:22

    I am having second thoughts about opening a business in South Africa. I might just pass.

      veldt66 - 2012-09-09 12:27

      Just pass then\\\

      ryan.stephen.07 - 2012-09-09 17:01

      Just look at the responses to Shaun McDermott's post. Then watch later as these same people cry about no jobs...

      rudi.debeer.5 - 2012-09-09 22:01

      A small clothing company will do fine. Lots of unhappy campers must buy new undies.

  • vicky.vangemert - 2012-09-09 12:26

    @ elaine.r.visser - Doesn't CNA belong to Edgars group? Not that it matters - All retailers are doing the same as WW - Not sure why WW is being singled out..

      jacques.stander - 2012-09-09 19:40

      Simple!! You bring one buss to its knees and the others will think twice .....

  • brendaanne.anderson - 2012-09-09 12:26

    @leon.groenewald.scuba.33 - Hear hear! Well said!

  • reg.nagel - 2012-09-09 12:26

    Absolute liars.....

  • dawid.hurter - 2012-09-09 12:27

    What they is not what they do??

  • les.bloomberg - 2012-09-09 12:28

    Yes, I have seen white petrol attendents male and female and they are very effecient and friendly as they have been taught to be.

  • christopher.m.lowe - 2012-09-09 12:30

    Dear Woolworths, irrespective of who, what, why and how all this happened DON'T stick a notice up in every store saying "The difference between Fact and Rumour". It's arrogant and just adds fuel to the flames. Besides, the people you're aiming this at won't be there to see it. Many people are very angry about a lot of stuff and, unfortunately, due to a misunderstanding on your part, they're all taking it out on you. Illogical perhaps but you need to get over it and address it. RATHER: Put out a message saying "SORRY if we let you down, SORRY if we made you think things that aren't true. We understand your anger and how you feel. We PROMISE to try harder and not let you down. We want, need and respect your custom. THANK YOU" THAT'S how you'll save your brand and get angry customers back. Now, if you're serious about saving your brand, just do it. And fix the composition of your Board while you're about it. Right now it's as representative of SA as a croquet fourball at the WASP Country Club and totally kiils your argument that you are representative. You're not.

      tony.hills.37 - 2012-09-09 12:52

      Brilliantly said!

  • douglas.reid.921 - 2012-09-09 12:32

    Our labour laws openly discriminate against the white minority in an effort to make sure blacks get employed. Companies have to comply with these laws or face fines. Woolworths don't really have much choice in the matter. If you look at employment advents they all refer to AA requirements. This is the new South Africa. Discrimination is written into the law. Nothing had changed.

      mike.clery - 2012-09-09 14:29

      The EE law does its best not to discriminate AGAINST any group. It's the lazy and short-sited application of Affirmative Action by government and companies like Woolworths that's the problem.

  • Jade-Mach - 2012-09-09 12:32

    People who wish to boycott woolies are just bored n looking for an excuse to vent. The bottom line is whether you like it or not what woolies are doing is the same thing being done by many companies in South Africa. The only difference is that only a few companies are transparent about it.\r\nPeople need to understand that when you work in a service orientated industry you need to have a fair representation of all race groups in your organization,especially in senior position. Many companies use this structure. \r\nSo when a company like woolies decides to address such equalities in their organization why are people starting to complain? We should be supporting and encouraging many more business to adopt the same practice.\r\n\r\nFor those who wish to boycott woolies u are just fooling yourselves. Right now you sound like those ANC supporters who wanted to boycott City Press over a penis.

      mike.clery - 2012-09-09 14:33

      It's about *how* companies like WW implement their policies. I'd suggest you actually read the "Code of Good Practice" that accompanies the EE Act before making assumptions: https://www.labour.gov.za/downloads/legislation/Codes%20of%20Good%20Practice/employment-equity/Code%20of%20Good%20Practice%20on%20the%20Integration%20of%20Employment%20Equity%20into%20Human%20Resource%20Policies%20and%20Practices%20-%20Part%201.pdf

  • ken.grimblegrumble - 2012-09-09 12:33

    If you're an Eskimo, now is a good time to apply for a job at WW. Don't worry the stores are air conditioned.

  • robzmcleanender - 2012-09-09 12:35

    it's not just Woolworths but a number of other companies aswell. Can you imagine what would happen if all the "white companies" & "white employers" stopped employing people of colour (including here domestic workers etc)? 90% of South Africa would be unemployed - and then what? If the person is competent to do the job, then by all means they should be employed and given the opportunity - regardless of race or culture! I believe this is a very clever marketing strategy by Woolworths - it's a well known fact that publicity is good........good or bad publicity at that! They just didn't think us WHITIES would take a stand against them!!!!

      stella.hlophe - 2012-09-09 13:41

      Are you in a way admitting to the fact that most of the power is still in the hands of a certain racial group? Surely your hypothetical scenario would not work if it ain't so.

  • johan.jacobs.5680 - 2012-09-09 12:35

    For money some people will slit their mother's throat for 5 cents

  • nectarios.photiou - 2012-09-09 12:36

    I myself have hired Different races in my store. The Whites don't last there (They get offered better job opportunities elsewhere). The Black People ask me why I do not have Black people on my tills and I explain to them, that so many times I have tried that. They just don't want to work the hours that they would get (Which is the same as the white cashier's hours), also they always complain about that their taxi won't pick them up at that certain time. I personally would have had to hire a Taxi Driver to be able to take them home. I do not make millions to be able to afford that. I have even tried to put one of our Black Butchers (He had worked for us for 8 years) a supervising position, and he just left. He is working at a Spar (Merchandising shelves).

      Bra Tebzaah Sibilanga - 2012-09-09 12:49

      We are talking about woolies,not your spaza shop.Stop being off the record.

      bernard.nienaber - 2012-09-09 13:27

      Lmao