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Vavi blames bosses for wildcat strikes

2012-10-02 12:37

Johannesburg - Employers are fully to blame for the wildcat strikes rocking the mining industry, Cosatu general secretary Zwelinzima Vavi said on Tuesday.

"The people who must shoulder all the blame for these wildcat strikes are the mine bosses," he told media in Johannesburg.

He blamed Impala Platinum [JSE:IMP] bosses in particular for the strikes.

"Impala committed a grave error in offering an 18% increase to one category to the exclusion of the rest of workers."

He said this had raised expectations among workers.

"The collective bargaining system is currently under threat not because of the Num, but because the employers miscalculated," Vavi said.

Workers have been involved in wildcat strikes at Anglo Platinum [JSE:AMS] (Amplats), AngloGold Ashanti [JSE:ANG] and Samancor Chrome Western Mine, among others.

National Union of Mineworkers (Num) general secretary Frans Baleni said five people had been killed on Sunday in the Rustenburg area.

"Two of those five were Impala employees," he said.

Baleni said the killings came after Amaplats threatened to dismiss workers who did not return to work on Tuesday to face a disciplinary hearing.

"In our evaluation, this is linked to industrial action," he said.

Police were not immediately available to confirm the killings.

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Comments
  • honestraymond2003 - 2012-10-02 12:50

    Now the stupid vavi is jumping on the blame the victim bandwagon like an uneducated malema... The more things change the more they stay the same!

      Alan - 2012-10-02 13:31

      Agree, Come now Vavi, concentrate on one thing at a time. Lets get rid of the e-tolls first and then you can worry about the miners!

  • Joubs1957 - 2012-10-02 12:52

    Then also Mr. Vavi - Government is FULLY to blame for non delivery of service delivery protests hey??? saying anything to try and save your "multi-million" rand salary as the head of Cosatu???

  • bob.mcmillen.564 - 2012-10-02 12:53

    So the bosses are held responsible because they didn't just give in to the DEMANDS of the workers, frikken communist attitude.

  • sifiso.msimango - 2012-10-02 12:53

    correct vavi-greedy white fat cats must shoulder the blame, always miscalculate, miss the point

      Joubs1957 - 2012-10-02 12:56

      Go read the article about your President needing R203 million rand to upgrade his house - you bananafarian!The "race" card doesn't carry any water no more!

      sarecen.smith - 2012-10-02 12:58

      sifiso please explain aurora then?

      brendan.vogt.1 - 2012-10-02 13:40

      Oh Sifiso My little narrow minded lost soul. You are as thick as malema and just as stupid. 1) Do you even know what goes on in the mining sector ? 2) Do you know who the share holders are of these mines? 3) Do you have any idea of the running costs of a mine ? 4) Do you think you will get anything if they nationalise mines? Let me help you a little,,,,,, "NO", "NO", "NO" and a sorry "NO" !!!!

      MrSerenador - 2012-10-02 13:51

      Sifiso mtshana,its only white but our black selfish and greedy brothers too,lets shoulder the blame by pointing color or race.Arora should have atleast reminded you before you made that comment

  • sthembiso.jali.58 - 2012-10-02 12:56

    Mr vavi should also blame the cosatu affiliated unions for profiting on their members while doing nothing about their working conditions. Hipocrites.!

  • ianon.ym - 2012-10-02 12:56

    Vavi, your union members simply don't believe in you anymore - they are doing it for themselves and by the looks of it with better results - perhaps you guys should close shop and leave employers and employees to negotiate. Blame anyone but yourselves ...

  • donald.nokane - 2012-10-02 12:57

    Blaming one another at this stage does not really solve the current situation. People are being killed and some are likely to loose their jobs. The mine bosses, as Mr Vavi want us to believe, together with the Elected union leaders need stop their arrogance and find each other and get this carnage and lawlessness sorted out!!!! The future is going to judge us very bad.

  • bheki.dingiswayo - 2012-10-02 12:57

    I think the mine owners should close their mines and put them under care and maintenance for at least 6 months so that the employees could return back to their senses. It is my understanding that nobody is forced to work for a particular company as such if employees are of the view that the salaries they are getting does not match their skills/efforts they should sell them somewhere where they think they will be paid for what they are worth. We might be equal in laws but our efforts at work are not the same and there is value placed for each skill at the work place. Free for all must stop.

      dane.jenkinson - 2012-10-02 13:06

      Well said, totally agree!

      marilyn.edge.3 - 2012-10-02 13:20

      Perhaps Bheki should take over Vavi's job.

      Beverley Ainsworth - 2012-10-02 13:22

      Well said Bheki!

  • deon.louw.7505 - 2012-10-02 13:00

    The union can not control its members, might be closer to the truth.

  • sj.fourie.56 - 2012-10-02 13:04

    U cant pay somebody so much money if u act like hooligans. Or even uncivil animals.

  • christoffel.nel - 2012-10-02 13:08

    No, Mr Vavi. The employer is your enemy. You will say anything to cover your luxury. Cosatu is the problem you are a dinosaur of the communist. You create no value. You add nothing to the economy. You and your ilk are only parasites. You will compromise your members well being by killing your employer. Farmers are employers as well and we know what happen to them!

  • blip.noodlum - 2012-10-02 13:09

    Who needs NUM?

  • nketso.kgwadi - 2012-10-02 13:13

    Vavi will never blame the employees even if they kill innocent people throw stones @ innocent drivers disrupting traffic and other businesses, how many people die in the hands of this violent strikes do we have to blame the employers always?

  • breinlekkasie.dodelikegif - 2012-10-02 13:18

    As if the workers and the trade unions are innocent. In the long run the workers are going to pay the ultimate price as companies shed jobs to try and keep costs low enough to be competitive in the global market. If the worker class, the trade unions and government don't find a way to cooperate with investors and businesses the worker class will find themselves unemployed. Investors can invest in any country, they have no obligation towards South Africa.

  • peter.vanrensburg.5 - 2012-10-02 13:19

    hahahahahaahaaahahahahaahaha......cough......cough...............fart.............wheeeeezeeeeeee..............hahahaha...cough......hahahaha.........no Mr Vavi, it's not the mine bosses fault , it's actually YOUR fault, you and your cronies thought that you could just sit back and enjoy your fat salaries and the workers would just continue to support your organisations.The workers weren't happy and YOU, as their representatives, ignored them. Plain and simple!So Mr Vavi, stop the "blame game" and admit that COSATU failed the workers, come on be a man!Next you going to BLAME apartheid aren't you???..hahahahaha

  • david.barkhuizen - 2012-10-02 13:21

    "The collective bargaining system is currently under threat not because of the Num, but because the employers miscalculated," Vavi said. So NUM bears no responsibility for this chaos... Just like SATAWU bears no responsibility for those truck drivers injured or killed by its striking members... Just like the service deliver protesters in Kuruman bear no responsibility to the children the have deprived of an entire year of education... Based on empirical evidence, the only human right the ANC unswervingly supports is the right to not take responsibility for the consequences of one's actions.

  • shirley.steenkamp - 2012-10-02 13:21

    Vavi-pull the other leg! NOTHING/NOBODY gave them the right to act in the crazed barbaric fashion they did, Illegal strike means just that-illegal. You take the fees every month but refuse responsibility for failing to control your members. You lost control a long time ago.

  • makavelithedonkilluminati.shakur - 2012-10-02 13:26

    Go on and point fingers at each other and play the blame game but it won't solve anything.Thought you knew.

  • brendan.vogt.1 - 2012-10-02 13:28

    Thats my Boy Vavi, you gotta blame somebody. I'm just surprised you did not blame the "Old Regime"

  • crystal.core.5 - 2012-10-02 13:28

    Well, I guess that settles it then, so the employers and tax payers are completely to blame ...moral of the story is don't employ people or you will be to blame too ...I guess we don't need the legal commission's enquiry into the matter anymore either? Funny thing is: I don't see employers running around with pangas threatening the lives of their colleagues, murdering people... oh, I forgot that's legal in South Africa when you are demanding more money... The rumour is that a number of the people marching with weapons didn't even work there, bussed in political thugs for hire (cannon fodder), a politically motivated attack on SA business. Are we to take it that the message these thugs have for employers: 'pay up or be killed' is now officially supported by the Vavi and the ANC?

  • mantothieve.missingman - 2012-10-02 13:33

    Well its easy , The mine bosses must fire all these unhappy workers and import machines to do the mining like they do overseas where there are no unemployed masses like here. Easy the rest of the world mines , farms , manufacture Etc without african labour it is all automated by machines, machines don’t strike , they don’t get tired , they don’t belong to unions and best of all they wont kill you if you dont meet their demands

      madoda.monamudi - 2012-10-02 14:10

      Pack your bags and go to overseas, I have a free passport for u. It won't happen here in our country.

  • masupa.tsela - 2012-10-02 13:34

    Can't you people understand? The employer gave 18% to some workers diregarding the collective bargaining process! How is this not understandable to get the root cause?\r\nProbably most seem like you all whites plus your brainless coconuts!\r\nProfit must be hit hard too. And as for firing all those striking, already we have plan B. \r\n83% of all people in mining industry are black; 86% of all top management positions are white; 68% of middle management is white; 34% of lower management is white! Rock Drillers? Not even one white! And Solidarity's member are nt people earning R4000.\r\nWhites are not even 15% of population! From Mangaung going forward we will work with statics and demographics!\r\n*hit!

      winifred.watson.9 - 2012-10-02 15:45

      Whites always taking the blame. Masupa.tsela when you are finished chasing the whites away I hope you are going to be a responsible lad and start working to support all those l4 millions grants that have to be paid every month and still growing. Whites dont own much these days why dont you check you have the class for the very black elite these days. Carry on lad, you are doing a very fine job.

  • firmsly.kabelo - 2012-10-02 13:34

    Vavi blames the mine bosses. I blame Him,NUM,the ANC and Government.

  • jannie.kotze.7 - 2012-10-02 13:44

    Zwelinzima Vavi, COSATU, ANC are the tombstones of the South African economy!

  • sidney.gilroy - 2012-10-02 13:49

    Nee wat. Goodbye South African Mining Industry. Maybe the local folk could work for the Chinese for rice and wine in a decade or two. This lot deserves no better.

  • maureen.churchill.9 - 2012-10-02 15:02

    No Vavi, you and malema are responsible, you didn't expect the mass action which sparked from your nonsense. Don't shift the blame to suit yourselves. I hate it when I read such cr@p. Perhaps before you lot act like big wig idiots again you will assess the impact. YOU ARE GUILTY!!

  • masupa.tsela - 2012-10-02 15:04

    Fourie I'm more educated than u in ALL respect! Of old standard 7 is the best education I see in whites I work with! Hope u knw why qualifications are not disclosed at work!

      Clayton Richard Delport - 2012-10-02 15:40

      Wahahahahahahahahahahahaha listen to this moegoe, maybe as a free ride b.e.e partner, listen why do you presume your qualifications is of higher standard than everyone here? You say your peers have a standard 7, where do you work I would like to come and actually see for myself, until then , sit down before you hurt yourself

  • jay.ramodiana - 2012-10-02 15:53

    Correction nobody died at Impala Platinum Frans Baleni his lying Impala Platinum is not on strike so how would the be dissmal tuesday since the is no strike

  • ro.jhb.1 - 2012-10-02 17:09

    I hate to say I agree with Vavi on this one to a limited extent. On the one hand NUM is ineffectual and has lost the support of the workers and therefore is to blame. On the other hand business has always capitulated instead of fighting for their rights. They just agree just like they do with government although the ANC is so anti business its like being in an abusive relationship. Business should have fired the workers and in fact for every day that there is an illegal strike 5% of the workers should be retrenched. Sure in teh short term this would be expensive however long term we would have a better relationship and business would not be the abused spouse. Man up business and tell your workers to find other jobs. At 40% unemployment I am sure there are some people who would love a fair paying job.

  • bongile.langa - 2012-10-03 18:27

    2faced leaders, they are moving with the direction of the wind! Malema stabs JZ in the back, Montlante betrays us! now mr Vavi is trying to play all innocent, Ag please!

  • slawek.puk - 2012-10-04 14:58

    Blame the employer? There is always one to blame right? But never the real perpetrators right? Tell me I'm wrong. Vavi you swing from one tree to the next where it suites you best. Politics?

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