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Poverty led to miners' deaths - ANC

2012-08-21 17:00

Johannesburg - Inequality and poverty was to blame for the death of 34 people at the Lonmin mine in Marikana, the ANC in Limpopo said on Tuesday.

"The inequality gaps and extreme levels of poverty leading to the kind of socio-economic desperation experienced by large portions of our population on a daily basis is the underlying reason," provincial spokesperson Makonde Mathivha said in a statement.

"Clear, unambiguous steps need to be taken by leaders, both in government and the private sector, to vigorously pursue economic transformation at an unparalleled pace if a repeat of this kind of senseless massacre is to be avoided."

On Thursday, police opened fire on protesters, leaving 34 dead and 78 injured.

Mathivha said socio-economic problems will never be resolved through heavily armed police.

"We join loved ones and dependants of the deceased in saluting their lives to the struggle to realise economic emancipation for hardworking, impoverished communities in South Africa," he said.

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  • michael.vanrheenen.9 - 2012-08-21 14:57

    Economic transformation? Do you mean land grabs again? The ANC only has the whites' property on their brain and still lives in the illusion that everything will be a-okay once they have the white mans land! I wondered how long it would have been before the whites were to blame for this!!!

  • Cayowin_van_der_Badt - 2012-08-21 14:58

    So poverty, not the fact that the strikers shot at police first is to blame for the strikers being shot by police. Awesome. Now my ANC person who is responsible for removal of poverty? Yes, the government, well done. Who is in charge of the government?

  • oageng.lekete.7 - 2012-08-21 15:02

    No ANC, you are getting it wrong again and again, the ANC is to blame for not ensuring that Poverty is dealt with accordingly. Didn't the victims vote you in power, for you to eradicate poverty as you claimed pre '94? and for you to ensure their safety and not to ensure their death?

  • Lacrimose - 2012-08-21 15:04

    Poverty of any kind of implementation plan for all the wondrous policies and procedures we have, yes. Poverty of ideas where even the govt can only look backward and have no idea how to go forward. Poverty of impulse control - if you don't want/like/understand something, kill it.

  • leon.puth - 2012-08-21 15:04

    half of sa population live on R500 per month, yet the marikana miners were complaining about R4000 per month (8 times above the poverty line). this argument thus doesnt make sense and is mere propaganda. if poverty weas the cause, one would expect the other half of the population to have been on that hill, instead, that half is striking about POOR SERVICE DELIVERY, and are mostly unarmed

  • sephtonn - 2012-08-21 15:04

    They paid R1000 for muti but they are poor??????

  • barry.ahern.3 - 2012-08-21 15:05

    F%$K i get so angry at listening to the politicians and media blaming everybody else but the miners. They behaved like animals, adorned weapons and charged the police with intent to kill. NOBODY, NOT EVEN THE POOR have the right to do that. You live by the weapon, you die by the weapon. Nobody is to blame but the ill behaved miners.

  • kuvha.tshilamatanda - 2012-08-21 15:06

    the problem is that the ANC lied to the people,they promised them jobs,free houses,free water and electricity.a better life for all was sound good to the people,now the masses has realised that they are on their own,left alone in the burdens of poverty.if this could not be handled properly i could smell a war between the rich and poor,it is coming,just wait the rebellion is on the way,even the ANC wont be able to run away out of this,people will chase away all those comrades who think they are the leaders of the people,it would be a chaos, dont say i didnt warn you!

      thepatrickwinter - 2012-08-21 17:29

      You're a 100% right and I think they know it. This was a prophecy made a century ago. It won't happen until Madiba passes though. Tick, Tock...

      lacrimose.wolf - 2012-08-21 19:18

      They will deny that. They will tell you was what they said was "with Democracy will come houses, jobs, medical, water, electr, education. We have brought you democracy, we've done our job. Now you're on your own"

  • Perfume5 - 2012-08-21 15:10

    Wrong wrong wrong cANCer, we just read an article about a sangoma and muti. It was not poverty that led to the deaths of these miners, but a concoction gone wrong by some lying sangoma, who told them not to look back, but to continue charging at the police. Stop blaming poverty, and put all the blame on the sangoma.

  • roets.nico - 2012-08-21 15:10

    The events at Marikana is a sad day in our history and the deaths of the miners deplorable, but I cannot help but feel a bit cynical over the aftermath of the events: Like with anything else in our society the blame game is being played. The miners weren’t killed because they were a mob of lawless thugs, killing policemen and destroying property, they were killed as a result of poverty and police brutality. Nobody is anymore prepared to take responsibility for the consequences of his actions. Break the law, blame someone else and if being held responsible, play the victim of circumstances.

  • andtowns - 2012-08-21 15:19

    Stop wasting and stealing you corrupt fools!!

  • irma.white.9 - 2012-08-21 15:20

    Poverty huh... am I wrong when I said these miners accommodation was paid for as they lived in hostels (and those who did live elsewhere got a higher salary to accommodate costs)? Well, after I pay my rent, electricity and insurance for my little home, I am left with LESS than R4000 to spend on groceries, travelling expenses, my debts, etc. As I have said in a previous comment, R12 500 is waaaaaaaay more than what I earn a month and I make do, as do THOUSANDS of other South Africans. My sister is currently earning R3500 a month! What are these men expecting? It's true- money is the route to all evil.

      wendy.webb.980 - 2012-08-21 19:34

      From what I've read elsewhere, the take home pay is R4000pm if he is living in the hostel where he has somewhere to sleep, indoor ablutions and 3 meals a day. After paying for toiletries and some after-hours clothing, he has a considerable amount to send home to his family - probably a whole lot more than what he could earn if he stayed home and tried to pick up gardening jobs, etc. If he taking home only R4000pm, it also means he is not earning any productivity bonuses. It seems that for most the take home pay is in the region of R6000 to R8000 per month. The cost to company also includes a retirement fund and medical aid.

  • abrammothibedi.abram - 2012-08-21 15:21

    when is this regime going to declare 16 august, marikana day

  • crystal.core.5 - 2012-08-21 15:23

    These are premeditated, armed hooligans demanding salaries of over to USD1,400 a month, about 100x more than the average person in Africa, China or India, these are people that brutally murdered their fellow workers with pangas because they did not want to participate, they intimidated their fellow workers in joining their violent action and destroyed property of their employers... Inequality is created by racist policies that drive employers out of the country, that squander tax payers hard earned monies for their personal gain, these ANC policies all lead to massive unemployment, poverty and hunger - a wage dispute over R12,5k salaries does not justify murder as the ANC seem to imply. What about the constitutional rights of the innocent people hacked to death by these hooligans, including policemen? Were they treated equitably? This article is ridiculous, pure ANC dribble!

  • raymon.mcnelly - 2012-08-21 15:23

    No, in fact... Poverty has nothing to do with it. If you need to place blame (other than on the idiots themselves) then look no further than the ANC ... Yes, surprise .. the ANC !! Was it not the ANC that, back in the day, fought to allow 'traditional' weapons at matches/rallies/strikes ?? Mmmm... if memory serves, the bad old 'apartheid regime' wanted to ban any/all types of weapons at marches/rallies/strikes for the reasons none other than to prevent this type of thing happening, but Nooooo the infinitely smart ANC fought to allow weapons ... and now... you b!tch and moan because you got your a$$es handed to you !! Serves you right you morons ! Viva Bloedrivier !! Viva !!

  • mohlala.moroamadile - 2012-08-21 15:23

    No no no ... rubbish Makonde. The inability to comprehend one’s conduct; lack of insight to know that for every action there is a reaction; complete absence of leadership(in lonmin, unions, saps, sa intelligence, presidency); lack of common sense at an adult age; continuous intellectual slavery perpetuated by self-seeking practitioners of false [dark ages acts] who will do anything for a quick buck; an intense lack of clarity clouded by anger and injustice; and lastly the lack of humanity & the absolute lack of respect for life. Marikana saga could have been [voided and nullified] if in the midst of all that madness, an african child took a moment to breath and rationalize one’s actions, unfortunately something had to give and it ended in a way no one could have imagined – terrible state of masses lives. I must say every time I put my head around this saga, I completely fail to understand how could something like this happen with all the intelligence available at our disposal that could have provided evident planning to stop such a mishap. But then what do I know? Maybe I’m naive in seeing things differently, maybe I’m the foolish one, maybe the only way in life is to equip yourself and fight instead of arguing issues and presenting facts to win matters. This whole picture stinks and one thing I’m sure about is that there is clearly something very wrong with an African child. – Mohlala Inc.

  • dv.moodley - 2012-08-21 17:29

    The day that people can get the sense of entitlement attitude out of their head, our country will truly reach its potential. People need to accept their position, work hard and spend their money wisely, no matter how little they believe they earn. This country needs to get out of the mentality of striking because things dont go the way they like them to. - why dont we all just strike because we want a 100% increase? How can one justify what is a sufficient increase? its all relative to the lifestyle that people choose. Striking about wages and then getting the increase you demand only further increases the rate of inflation which ultimately people are complaining about. Sadly in life we all arent born equallyin terms of material items, but I can go on strike because my neighbour eats a steak every night while I'm stuck with peanut butter (not that I see anything wrong with peanut butter - I myself consume huge amounts of it daily).

  • malcolm.williams.144 - 2012-08-21 17:56

    Their salaries are actually R10,000 per month! Furthermore they were not all rock face drillers as stated but there were many criminal elements among them that took advantage of the situation to create havoc.

  • Motho - 2012-08-21 18:51

    Yes, there is poverty but Marikana massacre was about more than poverty, i.e. poor leadership from government, business and labor movements as well.

  • Leonard Mokgotlhwe - 2012-08-21 19:56

    ANC must make people in mining industry are paid well to avoid recurrence .We cannot all be shareholders but we all workers who are well paid.

  • flysouth - 2012-08-21 20:23

    Since we now know that these miners earned R10 500 as their basic monthly wage, and with bonuses this becomes R11000 - we also know that the ANC is lying again here! Whilst the work they do is tough and possibly dangerous at times, there can be no claim of poverty with 11k per month. But what else can be expected of the woefully inept, corrupt and deceitful thing called the ANC which claims to be a government?

  • higgs.boson.5036 - 2012-08-22 04:56

    Uhm, no. Stupidity did. If you see a bunch of armed police, poverty don't make you storm them, you're minuscule peanut sized brain does that.

  • gerrit.vanpletzen - 2012-08-22 07:56

    Poverty my aching a** ! Except for the R4000 they earn, housing food and medical needs are all taken care of by the mines. Do the arithmetic ! The miners have more than practically everyone else. Millions of people do not even have employment. As forwho is responsible, ask the question who is to gain if the mines fold. Look what happened recently when the fat cats got their hands on certain gold mines! These mines were stripped and the workers abandoned to their fate. That's right, this is what will happen in the case of the Lonmin mines as well. There are people connected to those in charge who are fomenting the unrest at the mines in order to grab,grab grab whatever spoils are left over when the dust dies down.

  • SarelJBotha - 2012-08-22 08:14

    WRONG!!!. It was them disturbing the peace and murdering other people that caused their deaths.

  • james.otter.10 - 2012-08-22 11:54

    R11 000 per month is not poverty.

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