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AngloGold miners demand R18 500 salary

2012-10-05 12:25

Fochville - Hundreds of striking mineworkers were gathering on a hilltop at the Mahalesuku informal settlement outside Fochville, North West, on Friday morning.

The workers were awaiting a mass meeting at the AngloGold Ashanti [JSE:ANG] Mponeng gold mine. They had been on strike since September 25 for better wages.

"How can we go back to work if our demands are not met?" workers' representative Rodgers Motlhabane said.

They wanted a monthly salary of R18 500.

He said their strike at Mponeng shaft one was joined by workers at Savuka mine shaft two and Tautona shaft three, all AngloGold Ashanti mines.

Strikers carried sticks and iron rods and sang. Others sat quietly under umbrellas, trying to shield themselves from the sun.

They had been meeting on the hill since September 20 as they were not allowed to hold meetings on mine premises.

Workers' representatives had had one meeting with management so far, to discuss security during the strike.

"Since (the) strike started nothing has been vandalised. We don't have to vandalise anything. We will act peacefully until the strike ends," Motlhabane said.

"The biggest thing is our wages. We feel that we are being underpaid."

Another worker's representative, Tshepo Motloi, said they had not had any contact from former ANC Youth League leader Julius Malema.

"We don't have any contact with Julius Malema. There's no influence from outside."

Several weeks ago Malema spoke to mineworkers at several mines in support of their strike, and called for a national strike by mineworkers for at least four days a month until their salaries improved.

When he tried to speak at a mine near Rustenburg police stopped him and escorted him from the North West town. He had not spoken publicly to miners since.

One of the striking workers said he wanted to buy a house, but due to the strike was now unable to do so. He had worked at Mponeng for six years and had two children, aged six and two.

"You never know what is going to happen after this," 26-year-old Johannes said.

He was concerned workers would be fired or the mine closed down.


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Comments
  • heathercollender - 2012-10-05 12:39

    Fire the lot of them and give jobs to those who really need it...

      justindeklerk - 2012-10-05 12:59

      I'll take one at R18.5k pm.

      nrgx.nrg - 2012-10-05 13:02

      They are smoking muti man. F-ing ludicrous!

      snoopy.zoomzoom - 2012-10-05 13:21

      Dey must reasonable R18 500 some qualified artisans don't get that much,i think dey should get paid according to their education and dey work in.that just demanding or just fire all rehire the ones who wants to work.

      nicholas.graan - 2012-10-05 13:34

      This is what happens when they see the people they voted into power making / stealing millions. They also want a slice of the action.

      Danie - 2012-10-05 13:44

      Close the mine go to another country....

      boom.afridi.56 - 2012-10-05 13:59

      R18,500 let them have it, we can all pack our bags, sell up and leave this place. clearly all downhill now.

      boom.afridi.56 - 2012-10-05 14:00

      i'm getting scared. this is how the dominoes fall.

      boom.afridi.56 - 2012-10-05 14:05

      take R18,500. f@k up the country, then get used to getting paid below what you're currently earning at present.

  • jan.human - 2012-10-05 12:47

    And the hills are alive.... With the sound of strikers......lalalaa...

      warren.rodel - 2012-10-05 13:00

      Brilliant!

  • sedick.gydien - 2012-10-05 12:47

    Only R18 500pm....Why not R185 000pm? or even better - R1,85m pm.....Want, want, want - that is all the average South African seem to demand. Why study, and work hard when you can do manual "work" and then demand a salary to maintain your lifestyle - Rather than earn a salary in line with your qualifications and output, and maintain a lifestyle based on your salary...they are obviously too dense to realise that the mines will have to retrench in the future, and then they will live on ANC handouts..until the well runs dry....

      seleso.mokoatle - 2012-10-17 21:40

      For your information I would like to inform you that we are as much educated as you could anticipate. That is why we demand what seems to amaze you.

  • Cameron - 2012-10-05 12:58

    Not even nurses get that! Not even paramedics get that! And they atleast studied for a few years in tertiary education!

      jo.barton.92 - 2012-10-05 13:20

      Teachers don't even get that even with a degree.

      john.plaatjies.7 - 2012-10-05 15:10

      Nurses and paramedics dont work for the Rockefellers/Rotshchild companies....

      philip.harris.967 - 2012-10-05 19:11

      In the real world , Nurses and Paramedics earn LOTS more than that. SA is allegedly the most inequal country on this earth ...and slave wages are the reason. Unfortunately many of our mines are 'low grade ore' , relying on cheap (Black) labour to exist. This is a huge problem which bullets will clearly not solve.

  • kingswing69 - 2012-10-05 12:58

    every year these guys strike , then 1 group strikes then the other group strikes,what happens next year will they strike again

      sedick.gydien - 2012-10-05 14:15

      yes.....

      philip.harris.967 - 2012-10-05 19:12

      If I was earning that money for such hard and dangerous work ..then I would also strike.

  • justindeklerk - 2012-10-05 12:58

    For that kind of money - where do I send my CV?

      JamesMWood - 2012-10-05 13:13

      I agree, I'm quitting mny job to be a miner

      victoria.kennedy.3532 - 2012-10-05 13:13

      Exactly, I am a year shy of a masters degree and I get paid WAY less than that. Make we wonder why I even bothered to further my education when I could have become a general labourer and earn double of what I am earning now!!!

  • gaius.longinus.9 - 2012-10-05 13:01

    Hope it gets 45+ Degrees today on that hilltop.

      richard.bosmano - 2012-10-05 13:35

      Hope they not too drunk and start a fire ,passed out ones might burn to death,big loss.....

  • evan.connock - 2012-10-05 13:02

    Everyone strikes, seems to me someone is losing control... we all know who!!! Imagine now, if everyone felt they wanted an increase and everyone stopped working! No hospitals, doctors, emergency services, banks, it would cripple the country, but "hey" why not, it's about me and my increase, who cares about the rest? But wait, all this sounds familiar doesn't it... who else has put themselves before the people they should be serving... a trend developing perhaps???

  • Itu Santino Cortez - 2012-10-05 13:04

    They must be high ,A software developer with a BTECH degree can earn R150 000/annum , a Tswane metro police constable who finished matric in '07 earns R14000 a month , and they want to get R222 000 a year ?. THEY'RE ARE BLOODY MAD !

  • peter.hall.3956 - 2012-10-05 13:07

    Was in JHB this week, it feels like a melt down up there, lack of fuel the cell phones\gps systems were not working, sat on a freeway for 30mins waiting for strikers to move....happy to be back in Durban!!

  • victoria.kennedy.3532 - 2012-10-05 13:10

    Johannes you are a sensible man, now go tell your comrades that and then explain to them the very real possibility of the mine closing down.

  • Vanman1979 - 2012-10-05 13:13

    They will earn more than me. And I survive on that with two children and renting a house. I spend R2500pm on feul and soon you may add R500 on e-toll it seems. And my wife doesn't work. Still I don't strike because I will lose my job with in the first 3 days. It is time the unions are dismantled and if you strike you are fired. There are many out there that will work for what you earned last year.

  • sisie.indola - 2012-10-05 13:14

    OFFS - i also want R18500 and i am educated - where the f*** do you think you are coming from, go suck an egg, you are a total waste of oxygen and skin. Now mining houses fire them all. Let's see who has balls. They really don't want to work at all, but want the wages of a person who actually uses their brain rather than their .....what? nothing, how hard can it be if you have no education no degree to shovel gravel into a wheelbarrow - and they want R18500 for this - OMG i really want what they are smoking, as they think they are living in Lalaland. If these so called miners (labourers) only had the one wife (in the E Cape) drop the girlfriend or other wife (who probably isn't legal) and all those flipping brats that run around with snot running down their faces, and actually didn't go out drinking with all the skommies every night then maybe there would be enough money by month end rather than more month than money. They are all living in debt, having to pay off TV's and all modern cons - and really supporting two families is not easy nor does it come cheap. But i guess that if you have JZ as a figurehead you all think you can do the same. You are dreaming and you must become realistic now, get with the program - and either get out or get back to work. I bet you families in E. Cape don't realize that you have a flozzie on the side with a number of brats to support as well. I have now pity or feelings for any of these drips, and really am just so sick and tired of their sh*t

  • Dean Redhead - 2012-10-05 13:22

    Ag im so sick everyone of them are going on a strike, and nw they sit in the underground mine... so thank u because nw everything will once again go up because THEY want a increase

  • deon.meiring - 2012-10-05 13:24

    WOW!!!!, R18000???? Shoe!

  • David Steyn - 2012-10-05 13:26

    Hey you guys you are all heading for self destruction.I know it is difficult for you to comprehend but just for the hell of it try to understand how economics work.Look at the rest of Africa and you will see that the majority of it,s peoples are far worse off than you are now.That is why there are so many illegal immigrants here. Ask yourself the question why this so.

  • bevan.carpenter.1 - 2012-10-05 13:30

    From R5.5k to R18.5k, well within inflation i feel, seems legit

  • makarapakaplan - 2012-10-05 13:34

    Hayibo!! This guys not playing hey, they mal, fire them all

      asanda.p.james - 2012-10-05 15:56

      Viva comrade viva continue to fight

  • Bruce - 2012-10-05 13:37

    No one should be denied a living wage..mining companies make big profits, exploiting the workers and the communities on whose land they hold rights to mine. Enough is Enough! Come what may, this is the beginning of the economic revolution..voesek with exploitative, slave-like pay and work conditions.

      victoria.kennedy.3532 - 2012-10-05 14:43

      Tell me bruce where do you get your information from? Have you ever worked on a mine? I have and believe you me its not the slave labour you think it is!!!! And yes I have been underground! All this is about is pure and simple greed. I want and demand and will get - are their attitudes. How about pi$$ off and let those who want to do an honest days work for remuneration have their jobs. We have a LAZY culture in this country! "I want as much money as possible for doing as little as possible" despicable work ethic,it sickens me!

      john.plaatjies.7 - 2012-10-05 15:15

      Great thinking Bruce !

      DrGonzoSA - 2012-10-05 15:42

      At least two of those AGA shafts are currently running at marginal levels. The end result of this will be shutdowns and job losses. Paying people ridiculous wages is not economic freedom, its economic suicide.

      irma.white.9 - 2012-10-05 15:47

      R18.5 is more than a "living wage". That's extortion.

      philip.harris.967 - 2012-10-05 19:18

      Bruce there is sense in what you say , at some point in time SA has to start paying the citizens at the bottom of the ladder a living wage. SA has the worst GINI coefficient on the globe ...this will have to change. The problem though is that South Africa has problems that make it difficult to pay a living wage....pi$$ poor productivity is only one.

  • neil.harris.370177 - 2012-10-05 13:41

    How ironic that the town is called "fochville"..... seems like the people there are foched in the head and if the continue like this they will end up with foch all!

  • anakin.skyvader.9 - 2012-10-05 14:01

    What about the unemployed youth...who have ZERO income? There just seems to be no end to this "we demand" syndrome. And where do they get these figures like R18.5k/month from? Is it based on a certain percentage increase or is it just a nice thumbsuck figure?

  • Terry Charl Marks - 2012-10-05 14:05

    it is time to leave the country.

      john.plaatjies.7 - 2012-10-05 15:28

      It's worst overseas, Terry.

      robert.doyle.712 - 2012-10-05 16:54

      It's glorious overseas. GET OUT OF THERE NOW!!!!!!!!!!

      philip.harris.967 - 2012-10-05 19:24

      The time to leave the country was long ago...for most people anyway.

  • phillip.phogole - 2012-10-05 14:08

    Zuma will not allow Malema to adress the Miners Zuma is Evil

  • Natsvdm - 2012-10-05 14:30

    So all these chaps effectively want to earn more than the average nursing sister,teacher or policeman....and all that without ANY qualifications...crazy crazy crazy

      victoria.kennedy.3532 - 2012-10-05 14:46

      Freaking exactly. I ask myself why did i bother to get university degrees? It appears I would have been better off going to work in a mine!!!

      john.plaatjies.7 - 2012-10-05 15:34

      Chaps thats crucial to your economy...

  • john.plaatjies.7 - 2012-10-05 15:24

    Government dont want a population capable of critical thinking. They want obedient workers just smart enough to run the machines and just dump enough to passively accept their situation.Most of you posted here falls in this catagory. Its time to wake up and smell who's controlling the money.

  • justin.feuilherade - 2012-10-05 15:26

    And if those demands are met, they'll start striking against SARS once they see how much income tax is deducted from that!

  • irma.white.9 - 2012-10-05 15:44

    I thought they wanted R16 5000? Salaries are usually performance based, and by NOT WORKING for several weeks, they are hardly giving the company reason to grace them with huge salaries? "How can we go back to work if our demands are not met?" workers' representative Rodgers Motlhabane said. Easy answer- you won't be. You'll be fired and someone WILLING to work will take your place.

  • mark.singh.9889 - 2012-10-05 16:07

    Follow Amplats and fire the lots. R18.5K for unskilled/semi-skilled work is alot of money

  • hsnam - 2012-10-05 16:20

    Bye bye Africa. This is already slowly but surely spilling over into the rest of Africa.

  • braamc - 2012-10-05 18:32

    Fire the savages

  • yolandi.reichert - 2012-10-05 19:01

    I know of people with 2 degrees working for less than that

      philip.harris.967 - 2012-10-05 19:20

      What the miners are asking for is peanuts in the real world. The issue that has to be tackled is WHY SA emloyers cannot afford to pay decent salaries that bear some sort of comparison with similar industries in other parts of the world?

  • Rhulani Coleman Mkhwanazi - 2012-10-06 09:18

    Blacks are not stupid people, are educated and with top educations different to yours. So if someone pursue his or her rights, lets allow them to do so. They already done their assessments before they ask for that money. they knew they are worth it.

  • alan.davis.5249 - 2012-10-06 09:41

    How dumb can they be ? I'm a paramedic (ILS) and even I don't get that before deductions ! I save lives and they break rocks and they want more than a qualified paramedic ??????

  • dalai.rama.9 - 2012-10-10 10:14

    Where were all these strikers when Bafana Bafana needed them?

  • sonty.ramatlotlo - 2012-10-15 07:06

    Nonsense

  • Pule Pitikwe - 2013-04-21 18:59

    Those people work hard they deserve it

  • Pule Pitikwe - 2013-04-21 18:59

    Those people work hard they deserve it

  • Carmen Muller - 2013-09-02 19:31

    oh wow, think I should become a mine worker for that salary too. just imagine all the other strikes that will follow after this one which mean i will loaf again...

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